Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: SOE You have to be kidding!!
Don't sell yourselves short. BH's are pretty unique as well.
Gleitfrosch wrote:
seems like soe wants us to find to change our primary targets.
they want us to stop hunting jedi and start to hunt npc´s.
this way the jedi profession will become easier to play and more poeple will become a jedi.
look at the game. the jedi proffesion is the only one which is unique in the game, there are no jedi in other games and there will never be. but all the other proffesion can be found in many other mmorpg. why should soe make their only "special" hard to play? many people want to play a jedi so soe wants to keep them happy.
i dont wantto hunt npc, there are enough possible npc targets out there. i just play to hunt jedi but after the pub 20 i am pending between the term and the informant for hours before i get an online target. where the fun there ?
i also cant defeat a full skilled jedi. its because i dont play long enough to have the best items or weapons and im not a herdcore player, i dont have time to play 10 hours a day to be able to get the needed items to be able to defeat a jedi.
i liked the game but now i guess ill quit like many other players because the last pub and the way soe want to keep the jedi safe shows that there is no room for jedi hunting bh in this game.
Jedi_Xan wrote:
stop moaning. We finally get NPC missions worth hunting. I want to see these elite (boss) mobs. Maybe they are level 84 or even 90? That would be cool too.
What about payouts, did the NPC payouts get a boost?
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
So youre saying the BH 4xxx line is useless because droids dont work on Tatooine and they dont work on Corellia and they dont work on Naboo and they dont work on all other planets alongside them not working on Kashyyyk? You are way too "All Jedi are Kashyyyk LoS no-droid-can-find-me exploiters"-centered.
Let's make it so 4000 healer in the jedi tree doesn't work on.... Corellia? How's that? Fair for you?
Nice try. Stop overreacting and overexagerating what is broken and what is not broken.
Ahh... I hit a nerve I see. Why is the analogy incorrect?I am not over reacting or over exagerating the situation. A fundemental component of our ability to play our charecter does not work on one planet. I identify an important branch in the jedi skillset that if it didn't work on one planet would have a tremendous impact on your charecter. Now you understand how we BH feel about Kashyyk.
Actually, you didnt hit a nerve.
Your analogy is incorrect in that Healer 4xxx is important for everything Jedi can to, seekers not giving Jedi names for Jedi on Kashyyyk is only affecting the player Jedi hunting part of the BH profession. You can do lots of other stuff. Moreover, you still have the option to explore Kashyyyk and TAB through all players you see. Droids not working does not keep you from doing your job, its just a little bit harder.
But the point is: BHs got some bugfixes and content addition to the MBH box just as Tanks promised, and you come here and start trashing that. You got more love than any other profession in this publish, you should be grateful for it instead of complaining.
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Actually, you didnt hit a nerve.
Your analogy is incorrect in that Healer 4xxx is important for everything Jedi can to, seekers not giving Jedi names for Jedi on Kashyyyk is only affecting the player Jedi hunting part of the BH profession. You can do lots of other stuff. Moreover, you still have the option to explore Kashyyyk and TAB through all players you see. Droids not working does not keep you from doing your job, its just a little bit harder.
But the point is: BHs got some bugfixes and content addition to the MBH box just as Tanks promised, and you come here and start trashing that. You got more love than any other profession in this publish, you should be grateful for it instead of complaining.
Hmm... Lots of NPC Bounty missions on Kashyyyk too? I hadn't noticed I could run NPC Bounty Missions there.
Not allowing Jedi Healing on Corellia would only effect the healing ability of Jedi there. You could still swing your glowstick. Not healing on Corellia just make your job a little harder.
And please do not begin to tell me what I should be happy with. And I love how you say "You got more love than any other profession in this publish." So the 10 publishes that jedi got all of the love account for what? And, not to mention the 2 nerfs in the last publish; the changes to the terminals which ruins the BH process and the change that moves jedi hunting to master.
The analogy is 100% valid. You do not want to admit that I am right. You use skillpoints, invest them into abilities to do things and have them not work on one planet and lets see how happy you are. I picked 4000 healer because all Jedi have that branch and I knew that using that as my example would help some of you to understand how we BH feel about the lack of seekers on Kashyyyk.
Oh yeah, additionally, we will get a nerf in this publish to the way that droids are used. It will cost us significantly more to hunt post pub21. There is that love of which you speak again.
Compare Jedi pre-pub 9 and Jedi post-pub 19 and you will see that most of the publishes that dealt with Jedi were nerfs to the Jedi profession. Be satisfied that you got some of your issues adressed and dont demand more and more. You make yourself look foolish in front of Commandos, Entertainers, Creature Handlers, Scouts and a few others.
Eskie wrote:
Compare Jedi pre-pub 9 and Jedi post-pub 19 and you will see that most of the publishes that dealt with Jedi were nerfs to the Jedi profession. Be satisfied that you got some of your issues adressed and dont demand more and more. You make yourself look foolish in front of Commandos, Entertainers, Creature Handlers, Scouts and a few others.
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Compare Jedi pre-pub 9 and Jedi post-pub 19 and you will see that most of the publishes that dealt with Jedi were nerfs to the Jedi profession. Be satisfied that you got some of your issues adressed and dont demand more and more. You make yourself look foolish in front of Commandos, Entertainers, Creature Handlers, Scouts and a few others.
What are you fighting for? The ability to grind on Kashyyyk untouched or the elimination of XP loss from BH death?Seems to me that I am upset with bugs not addressed in pub21 and you have issues with the whole mechanism.
Im not fighting for anything here. I am just trying to get across that you are presenting yourself as a grinch with your first post in this thread - you are not satisfied with what you get but instead ask for more and more. I think BH / Jedi currently is pretty well balanced except for a few bugs like LoS, /duel and being able to attack while cloaked.
Just for your information: I am not grinding on Kashyyyk and I am not on the BH terminals either.
Overall I get the impression you try to put words into my mouth I never said and to start a personal issue here.
Eskie wrote:
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Compare Jedi pre-pub 9 and Jedi post-pub 19 and you will see that most of the publishes that dealt with Jedi were nerfs to the Jedi profession. Be satisfied that you got some of your issues adressed and dont demand more and more. You make yourself look foolish in front of Commandos, Entertainers, Creature Handlers, Scouts and a few others.
What are you fighting for? The ability to grind on Kashyyyk untouched or the elimination of XP loss from BH death?
Seems to me that I am upset with bugs not addressed in pub21 and you have issues with the whole mechanism.
Im not fighting for anything here. I am just trying to get across that you are presenting yourself as a grinch with your first post in this thread - you are not satisfied with what you get but instead ask for more and more. I think BH / Jedi currently is pretty well balanced except for a few bugs like LoS, /duel and being able to attack while cloaked.
Just for your information: I am not grinding on Kashyyyk and I am not on the BH terminals either.
Overall I get the impression you try to put words into my mouth I never said and to start a personal issue here.
You misunderstand. I did not ask to hunt PvE bounties. No one, to my knowledge did. I want PvP bounties and I want them to work. To make them work means that several exploits need to be fixed. Some of those were fixed like offerRide, but others like LOS on the WebWeaver, remain. This is in addition to the poorly executed changes made to the BH terminals in pub20 that make finding an online jedi MORE difficult than before and the elimination of names from the terms and relocating them to seekers that, for me, have never once returned a name.
If you marry this with the fact that seekers do not work on Kashyyyk, you understand, as do many other jedi that read these forums, that Kashyyyk is a safe haven to grind XP. Yes, a BH could go there and look in all of the instances and tab over all of the jedi to see if he gets lucky. My entire guild is made up of BHs. All we do is hunt Jedi. Whenever we get a mark on Kashyyyk now, we drop the mission. You know why? It ain't FUN. This is a game and it's supposed to be FUN. It ain't FUN running around Wookiee land like an a$$hat trying to find a target that you are not sure exists and are not sure if they are still even logged in. Do you get that last point? If I am tracking a target on another planet, I can add them to my firends list to see if they log out. On Kashyyyk, they may be there, they may not be. They may have logged. THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL. This is why Kashyyyk is a problem, this is why it is UN-FUN.
Again, please do not tell me what I should be happy with. I do not come to the jedi boards and tell people there that they should be happy gettting whatever they have gotten in a publish. You don't know me and you don't know why I like to play a bounty hunter and do not understand any of my motivation.
Message Edited by ElvisTheKing on 07-22-2005 05:32 PM
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
ElvisTheKing wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Compare Jedi pre-pub 9 and Jedi post-pub 19 and you will see that most of the publishes that dealt with Jedi were nerfs to the Jedi profession. Be satisfied that you got some of your issues adressed and dont demand more and more. You make yourself look foolish in front of Commandos, Entertainers, Creature Handlers, Scouts and a few others.
What are you fighting for? The ability to grind on Kashyyyk untouched or the elimination of XP loss from BH death?Seems to me that I am upset with bugs not addressed in pub21 and you have issues with the whole mechanism.
Im not fighting for anything here. I am just trying to get across that you are presenting yourself as a grinch with your first post in this thread - you are not satisfied with what you get but instead ask for more and more. I think BH / Jedi currently is pretty well balanced except for a few bugs like LoS, /duel and being able to attack while cloaked.
Just for your information: I am not grinding on Kashyyyk and I am not on the BH terminals either.
Overall I get the impression you try to put words into my mouth I never said and to start a personal issue here.
You misunderstand. I did not ask to hunt PvE bounties. No one, to my knowledge did. I want PvP bounties and I want them to work. To make them work means that several exploits need to be fixed. Some of those were fixed like offerRide, but others like LOS on the WebWeaver, remain. This is in addition to the poorly executed changes made to the BH terminals in pub20 that make finding an online jedi MORE difficult than before and the elimination of names from the terms and relocating them to seekers that, for me, have never once returned a name.If you marry this with the fact that seekers do not work on Kashyyyk, you understand, as do many other jedi that read these forums, that Kashyyyk is a safe haven to grind XP. Yes, a BH could go there and look in all of the instances and tab over all of the jedi to see if he gets lucky. My entire guild is made up of BHs. All we do is hunt Jedi. Whenever we get a mark on Kashyyyk now, we drop the mission. You know why? It ain't FUN. This is a game and it's supposed to be FUN. It ain't FUN running around Wookiee land like an a$$hat trying to find a target that you are not sure exists and are not sure if they are still even logged in. Do you get that last point? If I am tracking a target on another planet, I can add them to my firends list to see if they log out. On Kashyyyk, they may be there, they may not be. They may have logged. THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL. This is why Kashyyyk is a problem, this is why it is UN-FUN.
Again, please do not tell me what I should be happy with. I do not come to the jedi boards and tell people there that they should be happy gettting whatever they have gotten in a publish. You don't know me and you don't know why I like to play a bounty hunter and do not understand any of my motivation.
Message Edited by ElvisTheKing on 07-22-2005 05:32 PM
a) Using your friends list to keep track of the online status of a Jedi is not intended game design. It is called friends list and not foes list.
b) If you are not satisfied with the current state of the game, cancel your account for now. Another option is to find something else to do besides BHing for now if you cant handle it.
Folks, think about this for second. The devs decided to throw in higher lvl marks for NPC missions and increased the loot for us bh's.
They (devs) are deverting our attention away from jedi players to NPC missions while jedis (not full templates) are safe on the wookie planet to grind away while afk. Since we can't track there, we will never know our bounty's name.
So, the devs are still protecting the new jedi while they grind away afk on the wookie planet and we can't do squat.
Just shows you whos side the devs are on anyway.
Hey, devs, from the bottom of my heart /rude