Bounty Hunter Archive

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:


It's incorrect because: Duellist Stance still works. Imp Duellist stance still works. Assault Armor Movement Mitigation still works. Or did you forget those also came with that line?

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From Wikipedia:

An analogy is a comparison between two different things, in order to highlight some form of similarity.

Analogies are often used to explain new or complex concepts by showing the similarities between them and familiar concepts.

My analogy does not imply a one-for-one relationship between the abilities in the skill-branches, it identifies in familiarterms that jedi can understand, how not being able to use seekers impacts the BH gamingexperience.

So no healing on Corellia for Jedi! Works for me!

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Corvett wrote:

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

So youre saying the BH 4xxx line is useless because droids dont work on Tatooine and they dont work on Corellia and they dont work on Naboo and they dont work on all other planets alongside them not working on Kashyyyk? You are way too "All Jedi are Kashyyyk LoS no-droid-can-find-me exploiters"-centered.

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Let's make it so 4000 healer in the jedi tree doesn't work on.... Corellia? How's that? Fair for you?

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Nice try. Stop overreacting and overexagerating what is broken and what is not broken.

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Ahh... I hit a nerve I see. Why is the analogy incorrect?

I am not over reacting or over exagerating the situation. A fundemental component of our ability to play our charecter does not work on one planet. I identify an important branch in the jedi skillset that if it didn't work on one planet would have a tremendous impact on your charecter. Now you understand how we BH feel about Kashyyk.

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I dentify a skill in Jedi or ANY other proffesion that allows the ability to take away work from others that pay to play as you do? Be happy that you have the LUXURY of being able to hunt other players since no one else has that luxury and you could be just hunting NPC's as everyone else has to do......

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At this point in the game i really dont belive there should be any skill loss, its obviouse the only hinderance to the jedi profession is the time sink grind and alot of people dont mind that. Im thinking we should see super elite professions that levels the playing field between jedi and every other character. Weve departed from the timeline so far now there is never any going back. Everyone needs more choices on how to progress there characters because limiting the only end game to one class is a very very bad idea. I would gladly spend the extra time to unlock a super bounty hunter that was on an even ground with a full temp jedi and i wouldnt care if i wasnt costing them xp. I bh jedi for fun not to make you lose xp.

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Corvett wrote:

I dentify a skill in Jedi or ANY other proffesion that allows the ability to take away work from others that pay to play as you do? Be happy that you have the LUXURY of being able to hunt other players since no one else has that luxury and you could be just hunting NPC's as everyone else has to do......

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Do you still have the email you got when you unlocked your Jedi toon? Maybe your should go an re-read it.

Unlocking your Jedi provides you with a second charecter slot. If you do not want to lose XP, play your Alt. Your Jedi is a PvP charecter and has been that way since the start. If you do not like it, you should not play Jedi. In fact, this is what was originally planned for Jedi at the start. That you would not continue to play your Jedi after so much skill loss. This was supposed to be, in addition to perma-death, the population control mechanism.

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sippinonswerve wrote:

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Corvett wrote:

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

So youre saying the BH 4xxx line is useless because droids dont work on Tatooine and they dont work on Corellia and they dont work on Naboo and they dont work on all other planets alongside them not working on Kashyyyk? You are way too "All Jedi are Kashyyyk LoS no-droid-can-find-me exploiters"-centered.

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Let's make it so 4000 healer in the jedi tree doesn't work on.... Corellia? How's that? Fair for you?

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Nice try. Stop overreacting and overexagerating what is broken and what is not broken.

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Ahh... I hit a nerve I see. Why is the analogy incorrect?

I am not over reacting or over exagerating the situation. A fundemental component of our ability to play our charecter does not work on one planet. I identify an important branch in the jedi skillset that if it didn't work on one planet would have a tremendous impact on your charecter. Now you understand how we BH feel about Kashyyk.

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I dentify a skill in Jedi or ANY other proffesion that allows the ability to take away work from others that pay to play as you do? Be happy that you have the LUXURY of being able to hunt other players since no one else has that luxury and you could be just hunting NPC's as everyone else has to do......

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At this point in the game i really dont belive there should be any skill loss, its obviouse the only hinderance to the jedi profession is the time sink grind and alot of people dont mind that. Im thinking we should see super elite professions that levels the playing field between jedi and every other character. Weve departed from the timeline so far now there is never any going back. Everyone needs more choices on how to progress there characters because limiting the only end game to one class is a very very bad idea. I would gladly spend the extra time to unlock a super bounty hunter that was on an even ground with a full temp jedi and i wouldnt care if i wasnt costing them xp. I bh jedi for fun not to make you lose xp.

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I agree. I would LOVE to see this happen.

But they're quite clearly going to take the easier route and nerf Paddies to "normal" character levels.

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

Let's make it so 4000 healer in the jedi tree doesn't work on.... Corellia? How's that? Fair for you?

Nice try. Stop overreacting and overexagerating what is broken and what is not broken.

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Ahh... I hit a nerve I see. Why is the analogy incorrect?

I am not over reacting or over exagerating the situation. A fundemental component of our ability to play our charecter does not work on one planet. I identify an important branch in the jedi skillset that if it didn't work on one planet would have a tremendous impact on your charecter. Now you understand how we BH feel about Kashyyk.

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So in the hour that I have wasted by starting this thread, I have not had one compelling argument that could not reasonably be refuted.

Seems that my assertion that SOE does not listen to their customers is still somewhat intact.

I need to get back to work now. Its been fun.

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Phaelyn wrote:

The analogy is incorrect because it involves A) A set of skills that is particular to ONE profession only, BH vs B) A Skillset that all characters can use, IE healing.

A correct comparison would be saying: "If BH 4000 does not work on Kashyyyk, then 0400 in Powers should not work for Jedi on Corellia"

That way you use 2 specific skillsets that are unique to each class.

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Yeah - Jedi Healer 4000. That's what I said originally.

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neelong wrote:

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laodamas wrote:

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neelong wrote:

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laodamas wrote:
They fix the Trail and /offerride and all you can do is whine about added content, no wonder people on these forums get a bad name.

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So your saying we should be happy with the fact that SOE is cleaning up two exploits? /YAY!

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No, Im saying you should be happy that they are adding more content to our Bounty Hunter only mission terminals. If you had a clue what goes into fixing bugs in a game with millions of lines of code you would understand why it takes so long to accomplish. What you need to understand is there are different devs teams responsible for different things. Dont blame the lack of a bug fix on new content being added. They are done by two different teams running concurrently.

As for crying about how can I kill my mark on Wookie World without a name, how about asking all the other Bounty Hunters who still do it. It requires a little more investigation but it can be done. Sorry you didnt get the I Whine button turned into the I Win button you so desperatly want.

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Only thing I can say is that your a fool.I could try to tell you how 90% of the BH's here feel and it doesnt get through your head.. it doesnt need to actually. WHy dont you go slap high 5's and hug your jedi brothers in your own forum.

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Well I've now lost this arguement, the oh so wise has resulted to insults. True sign of a fool my friend, is calling someone else one. Most of the old school Bounty Hunters also state how whiney this profession has become. Not sure which forum is polluted with more useless drivel, this one or the Jedi forum.

This wasnt what I was expecting when I read Tanks' comment about more of a purpose to player bounties being moved to the MBH box (or at least, the shifted focus to MBH). Cant say I am complaining, just wasnt expecting the NPC redo and actually the NPC redo may bring back more enjoyment to the profession. Jedi missions are only a fraction of the Bounty Hunter profession, granted it has been a big focus since it gives us unique content to the game. They are now starting to improve the other facets of the profession to give BH a wider variety in content and rewards.

Many folks were expecting a BH ranking system, Smuggler player missions (which wouldnt make sense due to Smugglers still needing ALOT of love), or some nifty tools or skills granted at the MBH box. I guess I was thinking of a ranking system of some sort since the others would be alot further down the road. This goes to teach a valuable lesson, dont count on things without knowing what to expect. The 2 exploit fixes are certainly a good direction and who knows what else looms around the corner for MBH, the trend has begun and im sure they will continue to add to it.

Lets put things into perspective as to how good we do have it. In the very same TC notes that announced these new changes are some items of known issues, read up about the poor creature handlers getting kicked in the dinger. Granted the problem SHOULD be fixed prior to release it is yet another issue stacked on top of what they are currently going through. Or go visit virtually any crafter/entertainer forum, they would have lots of input on the topic of being suppressed. Heck, go visit the commando forum and ask about the fun AoE issues, lack of higher CL weapons, or overal lack of damage. BH getting a revamped NPC bounty system sounds pretty darn good to me...

i wouldn't mind the new npc bounty system so much if it was in fact a top priority for us. but i can say with 90% certainty that we were expecting something a little different. and as for the no ride's and los bug/exploit; that is something that should have been fixed not something added as a bh "gift". i would rather the dev's not given us anything and helped out a profession that was extremely borked instead of getting our hopes up for a semi level playing field.

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Corvett wrote:

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

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ElvisTheKing wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

So youre saying the BH 4xxx line is useless because droids dont work on Tatooine and they dont work on Corellia and they dont work on Naboo and they dont work on all other planets alongside them not working on Kashyyyk? You are way too "All Jedi are Kashyyyk LoS no-droid-can-find-me exploiters"-centered.

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Let's make it so 4000 healer in the jedi tree doesn't work on.... Corellia? How's that? Fair for you?

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Nice try. Stop overreacting and overexagerating what is broken and what is not broken.

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Ahh... I hit a nerve I see. Why is the analogy incorrect?

I am not over reacting or over exagerating the situation. A fundemental component of our ability to play our charecter does not work on one planet. I identify an important branch in the jedi skillset that if it didn't work on one planet would have a tremendous impact on your charecter. Now you understand how we BH feel about Kashyyk.

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I dentify a skill in Jedi or ANY other professions that allows the ability to take away work from others that pay to play as you do? Be happy that you have the LUXURY of being able to hunt other players since no one else has that luxury and you could be just hunting NPC's as everyone else has to do......

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Name a profession other then jedi that once you start it gives you a second toon?

You been living in SWG under a rock.... SF PvP takes faction points, those are worked for very hard also.

And any profession in the game can go SF and fight a live person.

Jedi was originally setup to be limited, with Perm death being the factor that kept the numbers low, even with exp loss so many people have unlocked that its honestly hard not to find a player who does not have a alt on my sever, which comes back to the BH mission terminal problem again, so many jedi and the missions not being removed when the jedi logs SUXs we spend more time now looking for a mission then it takes to kill the jedi.