Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: You want balance? Make MBH on par with Jedi Master
Message Edited by sippinonswerve on 08-13-2005 02:02 PM
Per Dev's, the Bounty Hunters job is to stop padawans from making it to Knight once they make it to Knight you have failed your mission.Thats how your supposed to "control" the population.
Remember back in the day it was hard to find jedi on the terminals because they were careful. Now they dont care because there not really being hunted like they should be the penelty is less but you can still stick it to them as often as possible. If they get slaughterd everyday because they arent careful most will quit and the BH has done his job.
Get those padawans
another thing that sounded good on paper but just didn't work. too much crying caused alot to change. if a bh does their job they are griefers according to some. so it was something that was supposed to work but got nerfed due to much of human interaction problems.
Message Edited by sippinonswerve on 08-13-2005 02:38 PM
Message Edited by sippinonswerve on 08-13-2005 02:43 PM
Lord_Mikus wrote:
sippinonswerve wrote:
Oh itll happen or the game will die its as simple as that, eventually everyone who was actually gonna stay and play the game will grind a jedi then get bored and quit otherwise.
No kidding..
I see people every day who are becoming jedi. One guy who i spoke to, when asked by me "Why are you trying to be a jedi?" replied with "Theres nothing else to do."
That's pretty much why I finally decided to do it. I went through the hologrind days and refused to hologrind. I went through the opening of the village and thought (and still do) that its a ridiculous system. But after nearly 2 years of playing...what else was there to do besides get killed by Jedi in PvP? I thought that it would give me something to work on for awhile anyways.
Darvus wrote:
If the devs want Bounty Hunters to be the counter measure for a large Jedi population, then they need to make a Master Bounty Hunter on par with a Jedi Master. This is supposed to be a one-on one confrontation, so make it one. Nerfing Jedi is not the answer, I don't think that nerfing is the answer to ANY on the current game problems. With the combat upgrade, Bounty Hunters lost most of the advantage of having a "strategy" to taking out a Jedi. Now it's just a matter of damage vs. healing. If SOE wants the Jedi to be hunted, and they want Bounty Hunters to feel this is a viable option, then give the Bounty Hunter a fair chance at beating a Jedi Master in each fight. Yes, there will be times when padawans are taken out quickly by a MBH, but how many times have you seen a Jedi take out some poor soul that didn't realize that special forces made him attackable? Give Bounty Hunters a snare that actually inhibits movement. Give us a decent root.Give us abilities that are specifically geared toward hunting and fighting Jedi. Most Bounty Hunters in the Star Wars Galaxy are loners. Give us the ability to be a solo class. If that requires making the progression to Master Bounty Hunter harder, so be it. Should it be as bad as the progression to Jedi? No. There are supposed to be more Bounty Hunters than Jedi. Has the irony struck anyone elsethat the current feeling about Jedi seems to be at a point where Palpatine's edict in Episode III would gain a similar response on the servers (cheers and applauds)? Give us the ability to go one on one with a Jedi. Give us balance.
Thats the dumbest thing I've heard in Game. Jedi is the Endgame. Sorry it just is. They really aren't as powerful as they should be considering they have the overall weakest, most easily countered weapons in the game. ( A jedi dosent have 'Lightsaber Damage" anymore not the option of switching to a kineti weapon. Which is why all the BH get tricked out recon armor). A BH worth is salt can take advantage of a Jedi's situation easily.. by stalking and choosing an appropriate time to engage and proper tactics. And a Jedi worth his salt will try to compensate for tht by using LOS to draw the BH in closer and judicious use of Force.
The fact that you can't roll up on an alert, at ease Jedi, guns blazing and come out victorious isnt a problem with the professions, its a problem with your tactics. You aren't suppose to be ble to beat JEdi in his own element. You are suppose to put the fight in your court before engaging.
Besides, Jedi may not take as long to grind as it use to. But it'll ALWAYS take an age compared to BH. So why in the world would you expect a MBH to be on Par with a MASTER JEDI?( especially since there aren't any).
And when BH have to suffer Xp loss we'll tlk agin about the grind. But, gimme a break. Another BH that can't compete and he wants Jedi handed over on platter... geez... noobz
There are 2 Alpha profesions in the game. Light Jedi and Dark Jedi. And since ONE..just ONE other elite
Terran_Riik wrote:
I think adding jedi as it is was a mistake, because an alpha profession ruins the game. But since they DID add it the way it is, there are things they can do to make things more fair. I think bh should also be a long grind, and on a par with jedi. Do you know how many bounty hunters in the star wars universe killed jedi regularly? Jango Fett, Aurra Sing, etc... They all had jedi kills under their belt and not just crappy ones, in episode 2 Jango Fett took out a jedi master on the council with just a few shots. Having a single alpha profession in a game is gamebreaking, having 2 that are enemies makes it more interesting
Elisar -- good point. I'm glad you brought up that it is about the two factions, not BH-jedi wars.
and to the original poster. No sir, you cannot make BH = master jedi. MBH leaves you with 129 skill points to spend elsewhere. The template you fought requires all 250 skill points. If you want to make MBH take 250 skill points and a long ass time to complete, then we might begin a reasonable discussion.
Personnally I enjoy playing my MBH and being able to make the rest of my template my own choosing. I'd rather not spend all my points on just MBH.
Thanks.
Yeahyeah you can say "Oh but these jedi arent like the ones in the movies!!" ... bounty hunters arent like jango and bobba either
Message Edited by WNxSaKeN on 08-13-2005 05:33 PM