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Thread: bounty hunter vs jedi

StraboV2
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:05 am
#53

People seem to forget..BH Jedi has never been the proper matchup in SW..it sickens me that it's become that. BH are supposed to hunt Smugglers and other lowlifes that have displeased a hutt somehow, if anything Jedi should go on an Imperial mission terminal if spotted. Before anyone flips out it'll never happen just seems a little more reasonable....I mean Vader didn't hire BH to hunt luke...he hired them to find the Falcon and it's Smuggler Captain *shrug*...maybe there should be light and dark Jedi terms somewhere so opposite alligned Jedi could hunt each other when given vis. Just random thoughts there.



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Barb-Wire
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:09 am
#54






shadowdragon2k wrote:

*raise hand* Hi! im a scum bag of a BH. /sarcasm off


anyway back to the point. what is differnt between this and attacking you while your Spin grinding? both times you have multiple oponet's after you and both times your going to be clouse to dieing. heres the differnce. a NPC may not be as smart as a Overt but in both case's no one has told you to stand there and get hit. if a BH runs to your enermy's then tell your group to pull back away and. regroup or HEll i dont know quickly run to a NPC and go combatant to kill the BH. its up to you if you feel that you can still do a decent job while haveing a BH on you then by all means help your friends its just down to how highly your XP is worth to you.






just FYI im takeing a poke at all the nerf herders on both sides.


my official stance is fix the friggen bugs and stop changing the underlying system. there was NOTHING wrong with how the game functioned on opening day. well opening day 2 after the servers came back up.... the only things taht have caused problems were the constant and senseless changes to the fundamental core of the game. each time they added a new feature they went on to the next instead of fixing the the problems that existed in the first place.


history lesson:


in the begining weapons and armour had massive SAC costs called at the time HAM for health action mind. the community cried out to reduce the ammount of SACE weapons and armour costed to a reasonable level. after many weeks of dev time instead of simply reducing the costs they introduced uber buffs in the 3000+ range so there effectively were no real SAC costs at all.


this allowed people to branch out and investigate wierd builds that werent possible before eventually ending up with the TK+fencer+pistoleer type builds that couldnt be hit.


this became a problem and lasted for about a year while the devs decided they needed a combat revamp eventually we got a CU that is even more broke in combat than before and we are having more and more changes when all we really needed back on week 4 was a simple reduction in HAM/SAC costs on weapons and armour....



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shadowdragon2k
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:12 am
#55






StraboV2 wrote:
People seem to forget..BH Jedi has never been the proper matchup in SW..it sickens me that it's become that. BH are supposed to hunt Smugglers and other lowlifes that have displeased a hutt somehow, if anything Jedi should go on an Imperial mission terminal if spotted. Before anyone flips out it'll never happen just seems a little more reasonable....I mean Vader didn't hire BH to hunt luke...he hired them to find the Falcon and it's Smuggler Captain *shrug*...maybe there should be light and dark Jedi terms somewhere so opposite alligned Jedi could hunt each other when given vis. Just random thoughts there.






Han solo was a low life smuggler. luke was a low life jedi.....whats the differnce both are low lifes due to imperial law.


btw Vadar was after LUKE! he just wanted Solo to lure luke to him. if it didnt work id have thought hed had sent another BH after luke as well.






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TheNarcis
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:15 am
#56






shadowdragon2k wrote:






StraboV2 wrote:
People seem to forget..BH Jedi has never been the proper matchup in SW..it sickens me that it's become that. BH are supposed to hunt Smugglers and other lowlifes that have displeased a hutt somehow, if anything Jedi should go on an Imperial mission terminal if spotted. Before anyone flips out it'll never happen just seems a little more reasonable....I mean Vader didn't hire BH to hunt luke...he hired them to find the Falcon and it's Smuggler Captain *shrug*...maybe there should be light and dark Jedi terms somewhere so opposite alligned Jedi could hunt each other when given vis. Just random thoughts there.






Han solo was a low life smuggler. luke was a low life jedi.....whats the differnce both are low lifes due to imperial law.


btw Vadar was after LUKE! he just wanted Solo to lure luke to him. if it didnt work id have thought hed had sent another BH after luke as well.








Nowhere in ANY star wars writings did a BH ever hunt a Jedi.


Regardless, its a poor game mechanic that has done nothing but create all the BS we have seen and are going through now.





- Malak Draven
Cojonelso
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:31 am
#57

/agree with Malak



I have no life when Im not playing SWG or at work... Im watching one of the movies...sometimes while I play as well.....


EP1: no BH's at all ...LOL ..... Light Vs Dark Jedi


EP2: Jango is Hired to Hunt a Politcian/Pistoleer/Squad Leader...... Obi-wan Hunted Jango..... Mace Killed Jango with ease


EP3: No BH's at all ...hmph see a trend forming here....


EP4: Greedo comes for Han Solo in the cantina.... Han Pwnd....


EP5: Bobba Fett sent by Jabba for Han Solo.... multiple BH hired to find solo by the empire because of the Cargo ... was Vader's son..whom he wanted alive not a Mark on his head..... Note: when bobba saw luke was a Jedi ...He ran ..and ran fast!!!!!


EP6: Bobba is a minor inconvience to luke and ignored rather rapidly.... and Bobba goes for Han and ..... opps sarlacc... but was not hired to stop Luke or hunt him.



Ive asked ALOT were this stupid Idea came from.... only answer I ever recieved from Players was ... Its how they made the game...... so was pre CU and that changed...so why not change this.....


Give us our own war with Light Vs Dark .after Knoight trials so those non PVP er can stay out of the jedi war if they choose while the rest of us become ranked Jedi


... full on perma aggro to each other..... make GCW NOT a option at all for Jedi.....


Give us Light saber Damage back.... unless they add cortosis to the game for armor smiths there should be no resist...but with us not in GCW and no BH coming for us only fighting other Jedi...... ITS NOT A ISSUE!!!!!


thats my 2 cents .....






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Jacella
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:35 am
#58






Barb-Wire wrote:

it is of my opinion that a Bounty should have to be of opposite faction to attack a Jedi.


if the target is a Jedi Knight the Bounty Hunter should have to be of the equivelent or better level of on leave, combatant, or special forces to attack the Jedi Knight.


If the BountyHunter is not special forces but the Jedi is, as soon as the Bounty Hunter attacks the Jedi he gets turned Special Forces. the same would be true for combatant if the Bounty Hunter was on leave.


there should be no such thing as a neutral bounty hunter.





I have to disagree...if anything, there shouldn't be Imperial or Rebel Bounty Hunters..by definition, BH's have only one loyalty...creds.









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StraboV2
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:36 am
#59

Exactly Cojo but I want to add one thing to that...Boba was taken out by a blind smuggler *cackles*



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DarkVader9
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:37 am
#60

Nerf both mdoc and mcm



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TheNarcis
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:37 am
#61






StraboV2 wrote:
Exactly Cojo but I want to add one thing to that...Boba was taken out by a blind smuggler *cackles*





A blind smuggler with a stick *lolz*

(I remember when I first said that almost 3 years ago on the original SWG boards. That spread like wildfire)

Message Edited by TheNarcis on 10-13-2005 11:37 AM



- Malak Draven
Jacella
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:44 am
#62

There are several things that stop lightsabers. Read Shatterpoint, and the Thrawn series, and read about JK droids.





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Cojonelso
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:07 am
#63

books..... I don't remeber seeing where they said this game was baised on books.....


besides you picked out one lil thing barley relevent in what I said.....


whats wrong? didn't what I said make every one happy.....


BH can hunt players...


GCW people get rid of Jedi....


NO one nerfs anyone.....


Jedi Get to PVP like the movies.... Jedi Vs Jedi


Smugglers get to smuggler ..... and if there bad at it get to experiance the Han Solo Vs Bobba fett thing......



Oh I also rememebr at the begaining of Empire strikes back Han was going to leave the rebels cause of a run in with a BH....


so why wasn't Luke hunted....... Beacuse he was not a SMUGGLER






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shadowdragon2k
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:27 am
#64






Cojonelso wrote:

/agree with Malak



I have no life when Im not playing SWG or at work... Im watching one of the movies...sometimes while I play as well.....


EP1: no BH's at all ...LOL ..... Light Vs Dark Jedi, Jedi was a well respected title currently not on the run


EP2: Jango is Hired to Hunt a Politcian/Pistoleer/Squad Leader...... Obi-wan Hunted Jango..... Mace Killed Jango with ease once again jedi was a respected title not on the run


EP3: No BH's at all ...hmph see a trend forming here.... untill the formation of the empire jedi was Guess what yup thats right a RESPECTED title and not on the run. once the empire was formed and order 66 was iniatied ALL you well respected jedi Became ummmmm oh ya Criminals. as many of you have said we BH hunt LOWLIFE's after the end of Ep3 all jedi became just that.


EP4: Greedo comes for Han Solo in the cantina.... Han Pwnd.... greedo was a Newb anyway. we all cant be like me or boba fett


EP5: Bobba Fett sent by Jabba for Han Solo.... multiple BH hired to find solo by the empire because of the Cargo ... was Vader's son..whom he wanted alive not a Mark on his head..... Note: when bobba saw luke was a Jedi ...He ran ..and ran fast!!!!! ok boba went after han because jabba had placed a bounty on his head. boba would have went after Luke if jabba had placed a bounty on his head as well. its just a point of view from who ever has credits. Multiple people was hired to find Solo because once again its down to the credits. if vadar wished for luke to have been dead then he could have just easily sent that many BH after him. also vadars agender was to Bring luke to the dark side not to kill him. Note: he had not ran from Luke he had a job to be done by getting his mark back to jabba. even IG if i had a markat my mercy (while overt)and then saw a overt running i wouldnt stop to take the overt. id kill the mark and be on my marry way.


EP6: Bobba is a minor inconvience to luke and ignored rather rapidly.... and Bobba goes for Han and ..... opps sarlacc... but was not hired to stop Luke or hunt him. Boba wasnt hired to do either hell he wasnt hired to do anything he was a honored guest onboard jabba's ship that made a newbs mistake. so sue him?



Ive asked ALOT were this stupid Idea came from.... only answer I ever recieved from Players was ... Its how they made the game...... so was pre CU and that changed...so why not change this.....


Give us our own war with Light Vs Dark .after Knoight trials so those non PVP er can stay out of the jedi war if they choose while the rest of us become ranked Jedi


... full on perma aggro to each other..... make GCW NOT a option at all for Jedi.....


Give us Light saber Damage back.... unless they add cortosis to the game for armor smiths there should be no resist...but with us not in GCW and no BH coming for us only fighting other Jedi...... ITS NOT A ISSUE!!!!!


thats my 2 cents .....








this is the biggest reason why jedi can not understand the concept of a BH vs jedi fight.


so in conclusion. After ep 3. you ALL Ceased to be classed as a jedi because it is just a title of an outlawed reliegon and all became outlawed Lowlifes. a Bounty Hunter takes a Mission/mark not the person if the mark is a person a BH will kill it or bring it back alive. if its a droid the BH will kill it or get the item of value from it. if the marks a Data disk he will either destroy it (if requested) or bring it back.


any questions for BH'ing 101?








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Cojonelso
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:41 am
#65





this is the biggest reason why jedi can not understand the concept of a BH vs jedi fight.


so in conclusion. After ep 3. you ALL Ceased to be classed as a jedi because it is just a title of an outlawed reliegon and all became outlawed Lowlifes. a Bounty Hunter takes a Mission/mark not the person if the mark is a person a BH will kill it or bring it back alive. if its a droid the BH will kill it or get the item of value from it. if the marks a Data disk he will either destroy it (if requested) or bring it back.


any questions for BH'ing 101?


well yeah.... I do .... why do you only hunt player hunt Jedi then? OK so we are outlaws under order 66 is it? ok I can accept that...


but what about other professions as well? as a Master BH instructor to the un-enlightend ... let me ask you... would you soley hunt Jedi if able or would you take on any Player mission?


would it be exciting as a BH if your terminal said Player or non player on missions..... and you have no idea what profession he/she is till you see the person as you are stalking them ? selecting which armor to wear ... selecting shich weapon you think will be most effective VS that type of proffession?


what if it was a BH that failed to finish a Mark.... would you still hunt them?


Don't you think a set of new faction ...like 3 crime Lords all fighting a 3 way war that you are aggroed to ,,,, Jabba.... Nym... Black Sun


why not expand your hunting then keep it limited to just Jedi.... sure ..I see your point... hunt us..hunt ALL of us not just Jedi.... would that be fun?




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