Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: DEV's: How can you justify invisiblitiy?
Eraser_BH wrote:
Yes I believe ALL Professions took full advantage of RESPEC and DOUBLE XP WEEK. Are you saying you didn't take advantage of it as well?
Corvett wrote:
I do play a BH and have long before most of you cry babies became a respec BH.
That is correct. My MBH/Smuggler has been one for a very very long time and I wont respec that as I rememeber how long and hard it was for me to grind investigation back then. I did however respec my skills around with my Jedi.
FernGully wrote:
PapaLazarou10 wrote:
...The CU was brought in to bring balance to all professions so I thought, 1 month after CU and the DEV's started to tinker about too much, I think even Jedi players will now agree that BH vs Jedi or Jedi vs any profession is far from balanced and its getting worse.
Since when did SOE say that Jedi are supposed to be balanced evenly with BH and other normal professions? Last I heard, the official party line was that Jedi are supposed to be balanced at a "1.5x stronger than a normal player" ratio. Have we had official word that this has changed?
Bring back permadeath
-Phinneus
Corvett wrote:
Since when did my saber not cut you in half immediately when you are hit with it? I mean come on ppl. You come across someone who you can't beat and you come here and make a thread about hey they need to be nerfed. Well, Boo freaking Hooo. Learn to stalk your prey and hit at the right time as opposed to trying to slug it out with someone. Learn how to well, you knwo, be a BH and have some skill.
sirshaggs wrote:
Phinneus wrote:
sirshaggs wrote:
I can see cloak in Star Wars...
obiwan " these are not the droids you are looking for"
he give them the jedi mind trick..
when luke goes to jabba and the guards back away...
Now how do you take that and impliment it into a game.
Making it so they can't attack but be seen jsut makes the BH follow until the jedi stops using the mind trick. So they make the jedi invisible to deter the BH from following truly making it a mind trick
ROFL my friend. I have droids that will help me follow you regardless of your cloak and lack of targetting.
-Phinneus
ahh but when did mind tricks work on a droid? They have no brain to trick..
try re-reading the whole post..I was sticking up for jedi...
yea sabres cutting people in half...that would be a one hit win..which you can't have in a GAME..
if you haven't noticed also, I am playing devils advocate...I see both sides of the issue...both sides raise a good point...but the end decision is SOE...I am trying to hold a somewhat oraganized debate but when you start coming in withe
[quote]Boo freaking Hooo[/quote]
I tend to think maybe you can't handle it?
Phinneus wrote:
Bring back permadeath
-Phinneus
/sign but prior to this let's get Cloak nerfed so Corvett can continue to make an arse of himself here,
Phinneus wrote:
FernGully wrote:
PapaLazarou10 wrote:
...The CU was brought in to bring balance to all professions so I thought, 1 month after CU and the DEV's started to tinker about too much, I think even Jedi players will now agree that BH vs Jedi or Jedi vs any profession is far from balanced and its getting worse.
Since when did SOE say that Jedi are supposed to be balanced evenly with BH and other normal professions? Last I heard, the official party line was that Jedi are supposed to be balanced at a "1.5x stronger than a normal player" ratio. Have we had official word that this has changed?
Bring back permadeath
-Phinneus
Cool with me.
Bring back my 4k kinetic dmg saber, my composite armor, and uber doc buffs. Or, instead, just bring back the time when Player Bounties didn't exist (yes, the existence of Jedi in this game pre-dates Jedi bounties) so I don't have to be interrupted by your "content" every couple hours.
*EDIT* Also note that back when PermaDeath was still around, Jedi were balanced to be way more than 1.5x as strong as a normal prof (20x, I believe, was the fiure). Bring that back, too, while you're back there.
Message Edited by FernGully on 07-27-2005 03:28 PM
Macabre said:
You cheeky little fecker!!
I have been MBH 3 times now, all which have ben under different Profession requirements. How dare you asume that all BH are respec. Its these kind of comments from people like you that have caused so much hostility between the 2 professions and quite possibly have drawn out the whole process of getting a proper system for BH vs Jedi. It still amazes me that after 18 months the DEV's still haven't gota basic BH vs Jedi system installed, there is always some loophole for either side exploit to win the fights or avoid losing. If we all perhaps started to be a bit more constructive about our thoughts regarding this sitiuation we might eventually get a proper system sorted.
Phinneus wrote:
They justify the use of Jedi cloak because the time Obi-Wan used it in ... Hmm no wait. It was Yoda who. No. Letme think of which Jedi made himself invisable. Oh thats right. Only the Jedi in this game get to go invisable. (SOE is continuing to change all the goodness George Lucas created).
-Phinneus
Your point is irrelevent, I dont remember Bossk, Boba Fett, Jango Fett, IG-88...(the list goes on) using roots of heals. Also if you want to go by the movies it should take about 10 BH to take on a Jedi.
But that is not even the point..the point is that THIS GAME IS NOT A MOVIE. If this game were just like the movies it would have died out about a year ago. I wish the bounty hunters AND MY FELLOW JEDI would stop crying, crying only gets nerfs spacific things and that hurts the game as a whole. I have char of just about all professions on various servers I do not consider myself a BH just because I have one..the same for Jedi and so on, I am a player of SWG and with each cry baby this game somes closer and closer to an end. Please for the sake of the game GROW UP! If you dont like the game play a different on, if we keep ruining this one you will have to do that anyway.
I think that the Jedi, BH, Rifleman, etc would do better to stop calling for nerfs, and instead ask for something to make themselves better.
Macabre Said:
When I started this thread I was wasn't crying out for a Nerf, I was asking for common sense to be applied. I think paying £10 a month for following shadows round dantooine is not money well spent.
I am sorry maybe you should go back and read the part where I said "Most of you". Learn to read and comprehend instead of trying to just argue.
PapaLazarou10 wrote:
Macabre said:
I do play a BH and have long before most of you cry babies became a respec BH. I grinded my MBH back when I had to walk to all my targets and hunt Jedi as well. I know both sides of the story as I also grinded my Jedi before patch 10.
You cheeky little fecker!!
I have been MBH 3 times now, all which have ben under different Profession requirements. How dare you asume that all BH are respec. Its these kind of comments from people like you that have caused so much hostility between the 2 professions and quite possibly have drawn out the whole process of getting a proper system for BH vs Jedi. It still amazes me that after 18 months the DEV's still haven't gota basic BH vs Jedi system installed, there is always some loophole for either side exploit to win the fights or avoid losing. If we all perhaps started to be a bit more constructive about our thoughts regarding this sitiuation we might eventually get a proper system sorted.
PDPoc wrote:
Phinneus wrote:
They justify the use of Jedi cloak because the time Obi-Wan used it in ... Hmm no wait. It was Yoda who. No. Let me think of which Jedi made himself invisable. Oh thats right. Only the Jedi in this game get to go invisable. (SOE is continuing to change all the goodness George Lucas created).
-Phinneus
Your point is irrelevent, I dont remember Bossk, Boba Fett, Jango Fett, IG-88...(the list goes on) using roots of heals. Also if you want to go by the movies it should take about 10 BH to take on a Jedi.
But that is not even the point..the point is that THIS GAME IS NOT A MOVIE. If this game were just like the movies it would have died out about a year ago. I wish the bounty hunters AND MY FELLOW JEDI would stop crying, crying only gets nerfs spacific things and that hurts the game as a whole. I have char of just about all professions on various servers I do not consider myself a BH just because I have one..the same for Jedi and so on, I am a player of SWG and with each cry baby this game somes closer and closer to an end. Please for the sake of the game GROW UP! If you dont like the game play a different on, if we keep ruining this one you will have to do that anyway.
I think that the Jedi, BH, Rifleman, etc would do better to stop calling for nerfs, and instead ask for something to make themselves better.
Whenever the BH community try to bring up "canon" as a governance for what should and should not be done to balance this game, I like to remind them that Boba, the most feared BH in the galaxy, got omgWTFpwned by a mostly blind smuggler with a gaffi stick he didn't have a cert for
Message Edited by FernGully on 07-27-2005 03:32 PM
In other words you wanted a discussion about how to balance cloak. Nothing wrong with that. But Jedi don't care about any form of balance. They want to be the primo alpha profession in the game and could give a rats arse about anyone else.
PapaLazarou10 wrote:
When I started this thread I was wasn't crying out for a Nerf, I was asking for common sense to be applied. I think paying £10 a month for following shadows round dantooine is not money well spent.