Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Now is the time to hunt jedi :)
Can someone still write a macro that allows them to fight and loot while AFK? Yes, nothing has changed in that regard. In fact someone posted such a macro very recently.
Can that macro be used by a Jedi? Of course, there's no difference between a lightsaber and any other melee weapon in that regard.
I don't need to prove that any particular Jedi is grinding AFK, I claimed that it can still be done and if anyone is apt to abuse macros to "play" while AFK, it's been historically proven to be Jedi - the same people who ran AFK macros to GET Jedi.
Stow your claims of "circumstantial evidence", it's your credibility I'm calling into question. I don't need to prove anything here, but I'm not the only one who's brought up the issue of AFK grinders in this very thread. Scroll up in case you missed that one.
Your self-delusion and denial of how the game can be and is abused leads me to wonder why you so vehemently deny the possibility. Call me a child, call me a noob, the real issue is your whining about a "penalty" that's meaningless to a full template Jedi or anyone who knows how to write or copy a macro.
Now, are you going to claim that AFK macros no longer work, or are we expected to take it on faith that Jedi have suddenly developed a sense of integrity and no longer use them by choice, rather than by design? You claim it's no longer possible, support that claim. Until YOU provide some proof that something has happened that has changed the Jedi's ability to grind while AFK, it's not just an assumption that people can still do it...
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) 
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Can someone still write a macro that allows them to fight and loot while AFK? Yes, nothing has changed in that regard. In fact someone posted such a macro very recently.
Can that macro be used by a Jedi? Of course, there's no difference between a lightsaber and any other melee weapon in that regard.
I don't need to prove that any particular Jedi is grinding AFK, I claimed that it can still be done and if anyone is apt to abuse macros to "play" while AFK, it's been historically proven to be Jedi - the same people who ran AFK macros to GET Jedi.
Well now, finaly, something that gives me a bit to work with.
Yes, AFK macro's still work.
Yes, the macro can be used by Jedi.
Yet you stop there..... Hmmmm, interesting. You missed the most important factor in AFK grinding:
A location where there are creatures that will givedecent xp, are a static spawn, and are not elites.
Withouta location that meets the description above, a Jedi could run the macro all day long, and not gain any xp at all.
Therefore, I again make the statement:
Tracce wrote:
Thats not a viable option anymore, get your facts straight. The wookies on the Trails are now single chevron elites, so people no longer afk grind Jedi.
Just because it is possible to lift up a lawn mower andplace your handin the path of the spinning blade, does not make it aviable option.
Again, you realy don't know what you are talking about. You can have the macro set up, but that does not mean that you will receive xp for running it.
Message Edited by Tracce on 09-06-2005 11:39 PM
Tracce wrote:
Yes, AFK macro's still work.
Yes, the macro can be used by Jedi.
Therefore, people can still do it.
Yet you stop there..... Hmmmm, interesting. You missed the most important factor in AFK grinding:
A location where there are creatures that will givedecent xp, are a static spawn, and are not elites.
Why must they fit that description? Can't you fight elites? I thought you were a Jedi, I can't imagine that you'd admit to being weaker than the rest of us... at any rate, even chump xp adds up pretty quickly when you can do it while you're sleeping.
Regardless, the post directly above mine confirms my assertion that AFK grinding is still going on. I guess that Jedi didn't get your memo about "viability"...
Now, I thought you rested your case?
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Tracce wrote:
Yes, AFK macro's still work.
Yes, the macro can be used by Jedi.
Therefore, people can still do it.
Yet you stop there..... Hmmmm, interesting. You missed the most important factor in AFK grinding:
A location where there are creatures that will givedecent xp, are a static spawn, and are not elites.
Why must they fit that description? Can't you fight elites? I thought you were a Jedi, I can't imagine that you'd admit to being weaker than the rest of us... at any rate, even chump xp adds up pretty quickly when you can do it while you're sleeping.
Regardless, the post directly above mine confirms my assertion that AFK grinding is still going on. I guess that Jedi didn't get your memo about "viability"...
Now, I thought you rested your case?
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Tracce wrote:
And just what incentive do we have to stick around and go toe to toe with you? LOL, with 440k xp loss on the line, a lot of Jedi will attempt to protect their time investment.
Yeah, because you'd have to do the AFK grind for several more hours to get that back!
If you're so concerned about protecting your investment, stay off the terminals.
Again, not viable considering that Jedi get around 1.5k xp per kill. At the rate of killing that would be possible while afk grinding, it would take a VERY long time to grind out the lost xp
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Tracce wrote:
Again, not viable considering that Jedi get around 1.5k xp per kill. At the rate of killing that would be possible while afk grinding, it would take a VERY long time to grind out the lost xp
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Tracce wrote:
Again, not viable considering that Jedi get around 1.5k xp per kill. At the rate of killing that would be possible while afk grinding, it would take a VERY long time to grind out the lost xp
Correct me if my math is wrong, but 440k/1.5k = about 300 mobs. How long does it take to kill 300 mobs? Several hours?
One kill per minute would take 5 hours. You could easily do that, so tell me again why it's not "viable"? How viable does something have to be when it can be done while you sleep or go to work or otherwise occupy yourself?
Your math is correct,if you stop there. You, however, missed a couplesteps.
You are assuming an instant respawn rate on a single mob. The typical respawn rate seems to beroughly 5 minutes.
Now, add that to your equasion, andwe see that your numbers are deflated severly. Assuming one min to kill the creature we get this:
440k/1.5k=300 (mobs needed to get 440k xp)
5 (respawn rate) + 1 (time to kill creature) = 6 (time between gaining 1.5k xp)
300 * 6 = 1800 (time in minutes to achieve 440k xp)
1800 / 60 = 30 (time in hours to achieve 440kxp)
Wow, 30 hours. Last I checked, 30 is more than several.
Again, AFK grinding is not a viable option for recovering xp.
Message Edited by Tracce on 09-07-2005 03:16 PM
Does it really take you a whole minute to kill a single creature? Maybe you should take up merchant - you can get xp way faster than that, even offline.
And I'm sure there are places where mobs respawn a lot faster than once every 5 minutes.
If AFK's not a viable option for recovering xp, why is it used by those looking to get it in the first place?
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Does it really take you a whole minute to kill a single creature? Maybe you should take up merchant - you can get xp way faster than that, even offline.
And I'm sure there are places where mobs respawn a lot faster than once every 5 minutes.
If AFK's not a viable option for recovering xp, why is it used by those looking to get it in the first place?
Elites? Yes it does depending on how your template is. And "I'm sure" is not gonna cut it this time, I want proof from you, as I have given you proof now, and have proven your logic to be flawed when calculating how long it takes to grind out 440k on an AFK macro.
As for your second question, it WAS used heavly, but has fallen out of practice due to how slow the xp now is when AFK grinding.
440kxp is pure crap xp if it takes 30 hours to get. I could get over 5 million xp in that amount of time while at the keyboard. I am sorry, but your arguements do not make sense man.