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Thread: Combat Droids

MadCat0911
Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:31 am
#53

Well, i can't see anyone paying good money for exploding probots. Though I'd make those by the crates too.





Alexia Corban, Master Droid Engineer .. ........, Valcyn Galaxy.
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MadCat0911
Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:33 am
#54

Besides, they allowed creature handler, a class that doesn't exist anywhere.


One guy with a rancor in a pit, emphasize pit, of one of the richest crimelords in the universe


A few instances of mounts


No instances in any of the tabletop RPGs.


Yet the class exists and is more popular than anything else.






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RazorFire
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:20 am
#55

I was wondering what are there specs on the combat droids thatcan be curently made. Like how much HP do they have? And how powerful is there attack? Im not aDE just yet and was wondering. I hear they use less and if thats the caseI hope we get some new ones before i get the DE title.
RazorFire
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:30 am
#56

Ahhh!! i cant edit my last post. Anyways i ment useless. And how come theres two droid combat threads done by me?
ElitrosFF
Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:30 am
#57

I too have seen oh I think 20 people leave the game since I started in SEPT, Some more are talking about it and I tstill dont have a decent droid to produce..



To the devs follow the designs I have made for the new combat droid!



0-}< - Thats the ONE.. I call it better then nothing and its git 3000 HAM 160 attack


I pitty da foo who mess' wit d'one!






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ArdenStarmariner
Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:38 am
#58

Good content in your post. **edit** hard for a 43 year old like me who uses reading glasses to read it. Don't mind the colored text but use a bigger font size. And keep fighting for DE combat droids!




Arden Starmariner - Master Jedi, Smugglers' Alliance Privateer Ace - Eclipse.
Nemok Starmariner - Elder Commando - Eclipse.
Sketh
Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:55 am
#59

I don't think you realize the inherrent danger of DE only combat droids.


A cert system must be established where other classes than DE's can use the combat droids. Otherwise, DE will become a CH with the added joy of having to maintain hoppers.




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ArdenStarmariner
Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:26 pm
#60



Sketh wrote:

I don't think you realize the inherrent danger of DE only combat droids.

A cert system must be established where other classes than DE's can use the combat droids. Otherwise, DE will become a CH with the added joy of having to maintain hoppers.






The "inherrent danger" is a bunch of hogwash. This feature will make DE the most versatle class in the game with the ability for each individual to take it in his/her own direction.




Arden Starmariner - Master Jedi, Smugglers' Alliance Privateer Ace - Eclipse.
Nemok Starmariner - Elder Commando - Eclipse.
Sketh
Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:39 pm
#61

Arden Wrote:


The "inherrent danger" is a bunch of hogwash. This feature will make DE the most versatle class in the game with the ability for each individual to take it in his/her own direction.


Note that I think that DE's should be able to use the high level combat droids, but they should not be the ONLY ones to do so.


DE will the the flavor of the month. I want a good DE profession - but I don't want to be a CH who has to maintain hoppers, either.




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Master Droid Engineer - Master Artisan - Propagandist - Novice Carboneer
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Natosan123
Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:39 pm
#62

first the addition of de only-cert system is going to prevent noob from usingadvance combat droid but in the same time italso qualifyother advance profession fromusingadvance combat dorid. the objective of cert system is to prevent noob from power leveling, but not to excludeof those who alreadyadvance through the "noobie era". therefore a more general qualificationof usage would be much better than thede-only cert system, such system could be like a "maintainence" system. in such a systemthe droid user would need to maintain dorid's condition with either cred, power, maintanece droids (like thoserepair droid in phatom menance) or some kind of dorid liscense (kind like a car liscence, whichyou need to re-new it ever once in a while) this system would exclude the newb from using advance combat droid for a extend amount of time. since noob dont usually have too much cred to spare on maintanenceld and they would rather spend on some thing like weps/armor. but in the same time it would allow other non-de advanced profession to use adv combat droid since they usually can handle thing like maintainence. morever the stronger the droid the higher the maintainence. therefore even if the noob got tip with crap load of cash, if he cant maintain the net flow of cred require to keep the droid functioning eventually the droid is going to be busted.


a mechanical construct should be 10 times or 100 times more powerful than a organic creature, sinceaugmentationof physical attribute of an organic creature require millions of years of evolution, but augmentation of attribute of a construct is limit only by technology not by time and technology advancemnet should easily surpastevolutionary advancement.in term of historical analogy, ancient civilization utilize animal labor in warfare(calvary, charriot, elephant archer) and domestic production(ox, dog, worker) extensively until the advancment of technology repalce the needfor animal labor both in term of warfareand domestic production. nature's rate of evolution just cant play catch up with advancemnt of technology. more importantly ifevolution has enough time to evolve a creature as vicious as rancorcivilization should have enough time to developmachine with similar capability but a thousands time amplified.furthermore the star war civlization is consider to be a pretty "advanced" civiliation, therefore droid engineer of SWG should have no troublecreate a droid that will make rancor looks like a wet cat. next in term of game balance and justification of having a dorid more powerful than a creature, a ch can "camp" a creature of certain type, its quality and supply is always constant. therefore ch would never have to wait for a rare resource or rare creature to spawn to get the creature of same quality. in essence ch is like a DE equvalient of pre-fixed architect ( in term of commoditiy only of course) without all the craftingstation/med/item space mod. additionally ch dont have to maintain a hopper, factory, fear of craft a crappy product or needs of resource to construct a pet. therefore the cost for a ch to get a creature is only time unlike de which need time, cred to buy/maintain resource/harvester and endure critical failure. but currently ch pet charge more than a de pet could ever charge, in conjuction with the zero cost factor a ch would net profit more efficently than a de would. this is partly due to the fact that de pet is quite sucky in comparison with ch pet. if the quality of pet between ch and de is qualized both sellers should be able to charge the same price while maintain the same net profit flow. but the fact is that de is require to make a pre-emative invenstement in term of cred therefore the final price would need to be higher to maintain the same profit flow. if we expand further on the comparison to reach the full potenital of DE without relying on other players a de would need to master MA and DE, but in contrast ch only need to master two line of scout and DE. as a result a de should be able to construct a droid 100 times more powerful than a creature can ever be (discouting legendary creature such as peko alb) because its much easier to develop a driod with 90 inch thick reinforce concrete armor and armed withthermal misslethan it is toselective breeda rancor with greater strength and thicker hide.secondly a de reuiqre more skill pts and efforts to create a droid than a ch with its stablize commoditiy therefore it is logical to allow de to have a more powerful pet ( scout is a combat support class,crafter is also a combat support class since we support the combatant with high tech equiment) thirdly it is more star war like to have a droid trashing rancor rather than the oppsite. finally a good de pet would have much higher cost due to the fact that is need resource to be construct and the more complex a machine is the faster it breaks down. therefore the more powerful the droid is the more maintainence its require. most importantly its ham its unhealable unless repair by some mechincal means.


as for new master level combat droid schematic, i see drodekia is more like a lesser infantry level of an assualt mechanism rather than some thing powerful. a truly powerful master de crafted only droid that can match a rancor's power or surrpass it would be droids like the hailfire droid or the drawf spider droid(for those who dont know what the hell i am talking about here is a link http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid/hailfiredroid/index.html) appeared in the attacks of the clone. or essentially an AT-AT class combat droid (with similar stat). new module could be add to diverse the attribute of eachs droid strength and weakness. the number of slot could increase through cluster module or adv module( more slot and can stacks in it self). however this time with each mods u stack inside the droid a "droid encumberance" value will goes up, which means the droid will decay faster. by decay i mean BF/viality/wound( along with loss of power)would naturally appear eventhough u did put it through combat or anything and if u did it would decay faster. essentially it means the more module a dorid has the faster it decay/use power. the process can only be reverse by using a droid battery and a can of nanobot. the rate which the droid consume nanobot/battery will be the similar rate now( which is like every 20 minutes) if this system is too fussy it could all replace with a maintainence system. which draws like 4200cred every 1hrs or so depened on which droid u using( its a frigging siege machine i dont think a few coin splatter on the floor would maintain its condition). additionallya droid's ham would never! never! never!regenerate it can be heal only through a de with arepair droid and a repair tool( this is one of key point that seperate droid from creature, creature regenerate and heal but droid dont).this system would prevent novice from constantly using the all powerful droid. since its money costy, and force you to go back to de for repair after a period of time due to the fact that droid never regenerate ham. most importantly its a frigging money sink!!!!. camping of kimo and krayt would still contiune but at a huge ass cost. in another word instead of no risk zero-cost farming ,u actually asking the krayt dragon nicely "hey can i buy couple patch of skin off you for 30k creds?" but in benefit of not spreading this schematic to every de it would be best to store drawf spider droid/hailfire droid within a similar quest such as the RIS armorsmith quest.


as for uilitarian new droid schematic, i think mobile factory, harvester, house, hopper transfer, survey, enhance pack regulartor, etc too tire dont wata even to think anymore..........

lennoxa
Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:42 pm
#63

Ummm what combat droids do you guys have but the Probot which is very uncommon now? I rememer when Jabbas and the Tusken place outside Wayfar were full of these. Just wondering if you guys had anything else but gimpy Probots, thanks.




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Jedi_Shabubu
Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:03 pm
#64

/spank



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FC3
Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:53 am
#65

LoL don't insult a profession within their own forum



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