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Thread: WTH? Why are Nov BH's pulling better loots than I am?
ok let me make this simple: what i am saying is if you are novice enhancer and you kill necrosis you should have the same loot table as a master enhancer. if you are a novice swordsman and kill an ancient krayt you should have the same loot table as a master swordsman who kills an ancient krayt. is that simple enough? i am a NBH if i kill the exact same mob as a MBH why should i not get the same loot?
should loot be based on the amount of time it took to master that profession? since BH is longer then other classes they get a +20 on the loot table. well fine i will agree to that, my full teplated jedi would get a +60 at least.
you shoose i will be happy with either, because either will make me richer then i am. but dont say this middle tough class should be the only combat profession that can easily be rich, because i will master BH, whatever, i dont care. but that makes no sense for the game.
edit: i looked and i cannot find any skill or mod to bounty hunter investigation line that accounts for increased loot drops. maybe it is droid speed? to compare the additional powers/skills granted in different boxes to loot recievedis ridiculous.
zukem wrote:
alephen wrote:
so it is ok for MBHs to get more loot then any other profession? that messes up the economy in just the same way, you can argue on degree, but not principle. the way it should be: every lvl 80 full templated toon should have roughly the same ability to loot, with equiptment, skill, and dedication to it (i.e. time spent) being the determining factors.
to make BH the 'loot class,' which is what it currently is, is riduclous. BH should be the best PvP, PvNPC elite class out there. but balance cannot allow it to be this AND the best looting elite class AND the only elite class to have content.
i have 2 elite masteries, if i kill 5 level 82 35k ham bosses, i should get the same thing as you do if you kill 5 level 82 35k ham bosses. no less. if i am more efficient then you, then you can choose to do what i do. if you choose to not do it, fine that is your choice.
i am NBH because i want to loot, if you want to loot then go NBH. if you choose to be a MBH then that is your choice, you should be no more rewarded for it then if you chose any other classes yet you still have better loot then the tkm/pike/swords guys out there.
I like your line of thinking. With that, since I am jedi, and level 80. i should be automatically able to hunt NPC BH marks. I should also be able to wear armor. And be able to be very adept at shooting a rifle and carbine. I should also be able to get novice medic and be able to heal like a master doc/CM.
No wait that is different. Since I am a jedi. I should be able to get novice powers, and have cloak and lightning. I should also be able to get novice healer and get full heals. I have novice enhancer, so I should be able to get force armor, meditate, and force run 3. The other two I jedi skills I have masteries in. so it's the same right?
Message Edited by alephen on 08-16-2005 09:17 PM
alephen wrote:
ok let me make this simple: what i am saying is if you are novice enhancer and you kill necrosis you should have the same loot table as a master enhancer. if you are a novice swordsman and kill an ancient krayt you should have the same loot table as a master swordsman who kills an ancient krayt. is that simple enough? i am a NBH if i kill the exact same mob as a MBH why should i not get the same loot?
Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 08-16-2005 11:25 PM
There is no reason for a novice to be able to make a dozen five minute run to get a +15 Ca without the use of any droids, whereas a master has to spend 15+ minutes per run, and use AT LEAST two droids that he spent money on, only to get a party poster.
the only problem with that is this: right now MBH is a desirable combat class. it is finally an effective class. it is also the only elite profession with any real class based content. (actually the only one since the FRS is gone atm.) assuming this change is made, it will also be the best looting profession (right now, obviously NBH is) so what will happen to balance BH?
as i have said previously i have talked at least a half dozen players into becaoming NBH because of the loot, most will go to MBH because 1m per hour is still much more then what they were making. (cutting prices of itemes in half in anticipation of the market flood, i would make about 2m per hour now were i MBH by my estimation)
we have seen when a large percentage of the population got jedi, they were nerfed. what do you supoose will happen when a large percentage of the population is MBH? i dont think that one class can be the best elite profession in: PvP, content, and loot. which would the BH community prefer to give up?
Everitt_Cage wrote:
alephen wrote:
ok let me make this simple: what i am saying is if you are novice enhancer and you kill necrosis you should have the same loot table as a master enhancer. if you are a novice swordsman and kill an ancient krayt you should have the same loot table as a master swordsman who kills an ancient krayt. is that simple enough? i am a NBH if i kill the exact same mob as a MBH why should i not get the same loot?
alephen makes the point. As long as NBHs can GET the missions that MBHs can(which drop the good loot), they will be able to get the loot as long as they can kill the marks. So what you(OP) SHOULD be arguing about is not that they shouldnt be able to get the loot, but that they shouldnt be able to get the same MISSIONS(boss) as MBHs, which is the point my previous post before this made.
Dosi wrote:
Look, I may not have used proper examples, or worded everything I had to say correctly, but I know what I'm trying to say. If there's anybody out there getting the jist of what I'm saying, and can put it into better words, then please do.
Well, like I said previously, I think what you want is for nov BHs to not have access to the same loot as MBHs. Now, as stated, as long as they can kill the marks that drop the loot, they can obviously get the loot, so the actual problem is them being able to get the marks in the first place. So if only MBHs can get the marks that drop the loot we're talking about(bh schems/crystals/CAs/AAs) that will settle the whole issue. For those that are unhappy with that, I'm sorry, but thats just how this game works. As already stated, you have to be a MBH to hunt Jedi, dont you? I dont hear any nov BHs crying because they cant hunt Jedi, or that Jedi hunting should be moved to the nov box. If you want to hunt Jedi, you get "certed" for Jedi missions, by getting MBH. Hopefully, boss missions will one day work this way too, as Master exclusive content.
Only MCHs can do the mission to get the high level varactyl pet (which only they can use), but I havent heard any nov CHs complaining about not having access to the mission or its reward(or loot, if you will). Numerous other examples of this can be found in game, its no new concept.
Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 08-16-2005 11:43 PM
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Dosi wrote:
A novice swordsman doesn't go and kill an ancient krayt, not should he be able to. If he does, um AB tree of swords TKM/MP does well against lower end krayts. is a novice swordsman, right? it was done as a part of a group, and therefore he didn't do it on his own, and doesn't deserve to get high end loot for it. People who master their professions put alot of work into it, and it's bullsh*t that somebody can waltz in and grab a novice box and get the stuff the masters worked hard to get. so jedi who put ALOT more work mastering their professions deserve alot more reward for it it? what kind of reward do they deserve? MBH is not hard work, was once a long time ago.
There is no reason for a novice to be able to make a dozen five minute run to get a +15 Ca without the use of any droids, whereas a master has to spend 15+ minutes per run, and use AT LEAST two droids that he spent money on, only to get a party poster. if you have bad luck keep at it, simple solution investigation has a mission payout multiplier. novice gets 4k, inv1 8k inv2 12k, inv 3 16k, inv 4 20k, MBH 24k problem solved fairly. the problem is you are thinking as loot as your pay. it is not. the mission pay is completely separate