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Thread: Intimidate

Aveng0r
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:23 am
#40

yes, thats why you don't put it all in the defender tree, maybe split it between defender and ls


the fact is that if you were able to effectively wield a lightsaber, i'm sure you wouldn't be intimidated by anything, except darth vader perhaps



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Joshuatree
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:24 am
#41






tolenpoe wrote:

Brawler intimidate should remain just as it is....period. Just because you might be a FOTM jedi with no intimidate skill to use on melee stackers then that's your fault. You knew that jedi would be somewhat weak to melee and obviously knew that intimidate is the melee killer, SO WHY DIDN'T YOU GET INTIMIDATE AS A JEDI????? Right now i'm a Knight in the FRS system with novice brawler and love having intimidate so that i can spam it over and over as well on melee stackers. Me as well as many other jedi did the 3 mil xp grind for force initimidate2 and realized while its a nice skill to have, it costs waaaaaaay too much force and since weaken is broke why waste 22 pts for force intimidate1 at 300 force cost per use when you can invest in novice brawler at no force cost with 15 pts invested. If you don't have the ability to apply intimidate to melee stackers then good luck fighting them lol. You knew that it was such a nice skill to have, so why didn't you yourself pick up the skill?? Quit whining at non-jedi professions for having the skill and for that matter don't whine if another jedi uses it over and over on you. The skill has been there and will remain there.....even for jedi to use. That's the luxury of having that skill.








Oh thanks for your suggestion, you are so intelligent and awesome to think that. But guess what? I haven't ground to Forceintimidate2, and before doing it, I already knew 500 fc is nowhere around feasable, so sorry, if you couldn't forsee this, then you must have a problem, and you shouldn't even post here.


My point is NOT COUNTERING anything. You guys always think you are so clever and almighty players, you just love to flame and use ''get over it''


here is the situation :


INTIMIDATE is the most affective move in the whole game. Cuts the damage, decrease defenses.



a) Novice Brawler uses it for free / Every melee profession takes it, so no skill points loss here


a) Jedi uses it for either 300 fc or 500 fc. / You have to waste either 22 points for forceint1 or 28 points for forceint2



Tell me, where the **edit** is the balance here? No, I do not want to take Novice Brawler with my Jedi, I am not playing the game like you. If I wanted to be a PvP god, I'd be TKM / Master Fencer / trickshot like 80% PvPers in my server. It's already disturbing I can not use Powers as a jedi, but forced to be another Swordsman with a glowing stick.


Either;


1) Move Intimidate to Master Brawler, and make it cost 200-250 Mind damage as a cost (buffed)


2) Move forceintimidate to Novice Lightsabre and reduce the cost to 20.


My personal opinion is to remove intimidate entirely, but unlike 90% here, I'm not being selfish, just trying to be fair.



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Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:32 am
#42






Joshuatree wrote:





tolenpoe wrote:

Brawler intimidate should remain just as it is....period. Just because you might be a FOTM jedi with no intimidate skill to use on melee stackers then that's your fault. You knew that jedi would be somewhat weak to melee and obviously knew that intimidate is the melee killer, SO WHY DIDN'T YOU GET INTIMIDATE AS A JEDI????? Right now i'm a Knight in the FRS system with novice brawler and love having intimidate so that i can spam it over and over as well on melee stackers. Me as well as many other jedi did the 3 mil xp grind for force initimidate2 and realized while its a nice skill to have, it costs waaaaaaay too much force and since weaken is broke why waste 22 pts for force intimidate1 at 300 force cost per use when you can invest in novice brawler at no force cost with 15 pts invested. If you don't have the ability to apply intimidate to melee stackers then good luck fighting them lol. You knew that it was such a nice skill to have, so why didn't you yourself pick up the skill?? Quit whining at non-jedi professions for having the skill and for that matter don't whine if another jedi uses it over and over on you. The skill has been there and will remain there.....even for jedi to use. That's the luxury of having that skill.








Oh thanks for your suggestion, you are so intelligent and awesome to think that. But guess what? I haven't ground to Forceintimidate2, and before doing it, I already knew 500 fc is nowhere around feasable, so sorry, if you couldn't forsee this, then you must have a problem, and you shouldn't even post here.


My point is NOT COUNTERING anything. You guys always think you are so clever and almighty players, you just love to flame and use ''get over it''


here is the situation :


INTIMIDATE is the most affective move in the whole game. Cuts the damage, decrease defenses.



a) Novice Brawler uses it for free / Every melee profession takes it, so no skill points loss here


a) Jedi uses it for either 300 fc or 500 fc. / You have to waste either 22 points for forceint1 or 28 points for forceint2



Tell me, where the **edit** is the balance here? No, I do not want to take Novice Brawler with my Jedi, I am not playing the game like you. If I wanted to be a PvP god, I'd be TKM / Master Fencer / trickshot like 80% PvPers in my server. It's already disturbing I can not use Powers as a jedi, but forced to be another Swordsman with a glowing stick.


Either;


1) Move Intimidate to Master Brawler, and make it cost 200-250 Mind damage as a cost (buffed)


2) Move forceintimidate to Novice Lightsabre and reduce the cost to 20.


My personal opinion is to remove intimidate entirely, but unlike 90% here, I'm not being selfish, just trying to be fair.







If you even read the last few posts Joshua you would have seen that we were trying to find a middle ground here. The only ones complaining about intimidate are jedi for some reason, some of you guys are trying to find a way to work around it without anyone getting nerfed but you insist on nerfing intimidate.


Apart from that you are being selfish by wanting to move force intimidate to novice lightsaber and by doing so further weakening the powers tree.


To fix this problem:


A) get force cost for force intimidate lowered


B) get force weaken fixed


--> you have one nice working tree that is worth taking


C) get defense vs intimidate in the Defender tree and possibly the Lightsaber Techniquestree tospread it out a bit, this won't make you immune but will increase the time you can hit your opponent while he has to spam intimidate for it to stick on you. While he's doing that he isn't doing damage.


No nerfs only fixes and you won't piss off the entire brawler population.




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Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:39 am
#43






SDraven wrote:





Djena wrote:


To fix this problem:


A) get force cost for force intimidate lowered


B) get force weaken fixed


--> you have one nice working tree that is worth taking





that's exactly my thought either.


I never asked for a Brawler change anyway.









You seem like one of the sane jedi


Too bad so many people can only cry nerf




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C0N5UM3R
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:42 am
#44

this wouldn't be a problem if they didn't delay the Combat Revamp again.






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Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:44 am
#45






C0N5UM3R wrote:
this wouldn't be a problem if they didn't delay the Combat Revamp again.





They are picking people for the sandbox right now, so I guess they'll start testing it in a month or so, there is still a little hope



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xicomvaji
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:44 am
#46

since even padawans were pretty intimidating it wouldseem reasonable to ask that forceintimidate just be moved down one box or even to novice powers. someone posted that the sight of a lightsaber should cause intimidation, and while that would be funny and would make sense for balance sake they should just make it novice powers.


also to make defender a viable tree master defenders should be just as hard to intimidate/dizzy/kd as any master fencer


just my two cents





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NemKhis
Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:14 am
#47

I would definately agree, jedi should not be affected by this state due to the type warrior class they are, its just not in a jedi to be afraid. Also, I love the idea that the jedi should have the innate ability to cause intimidation of the target...as if you remember, most anyone in the star wars saga was very afraid to confront a jedi on even terms....intimidation in its purest form.



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krissy920
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:43 pm
#48


i do allote pvp and one thing i noticed is that the most mellee profs spam intimidate on a jedi.
why?, cause a jedi suck when they are intimidate! we can use heal all states (cost force and time ) . the initmidate (1) need a "Nerf" we all know that!...
but now my thing is that we all know master defender.if its a real defender he should have defends vs dizzy ,stun ,initmidate and kind of stuff,
defender sucks in that! we also have force powers, dont know about u guys but i dont realy see any defense or an feedback for master force powers in here
. theres only one template (master enhancer) who got defense against it and thats enahncer.Now we can nerf enhancer allote more.
but it ould be esier to give all templates a bit of defense! so u dont have the cookie templates.

For example

2 tkm atacks an jedi and 1 tkm only spamd intimidate (whats easy) the other one kicks youre ass so its very easy to kill a jedi





i hope u understand my bad english =)
RevonLuxa
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:46 pm
#49

your message comes through loud and clear.


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Turenne
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:46 pm
#50

Well I don't want to bash you so i'll just say...


STOP WHINNING!!!!





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krissy920
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:49 pm
#51

heh this is just balancing , from both sides
krissy920
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:53 pm
#52

btw , if u get only stuff to say like " stop whinning" i got to say stop posting cause its not a thing we all can use
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