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Thread: Intimidate

-Vision-
Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:49 am
#27






Shimm wrote:

Waaaaaah !






yet another "i hate jedi cause im not a jedi" weener........



My mission to kill the sexiest man alive failed as i am not suicidal.......

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Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:58 am
#28






Joshuatree wrote:

Intimidate should be removed from the game or should cost an arm and a leg when even BUFFED.


Fighting a Melee Stacker :


./warcry

/intimidate1 or 2

/intimidate1 or 2

/intimidate1 or 2

/intimidate1 or 2

/intimidate1 or 2


So I'm intimidated enough till the end of the fight. Intimidate reduced damage like 60% and lowers defenses. ıt's the STRONGEST ability in the game, but somehow doesn't cost anything. When intimidated, you can not do **edit** to a damage stacker unless you have an awesome sabre of 4 crystals -9 fc and 50 damage, which I do not have and will not because NS Elders kick **edit** now.


Intimidate should cost someting like 250-300 Mind Damage when cast while BUFFED. This will balance ranged professions vs melee, jedi vs melee and melee vs melee. Just watch 2 fencers fighting, it's torture.


Devs do something about this intimidate. If it's a freaking basic ability that novice brawler can have, WHY do we have to spend 24 sps just to get forceintimidate1 and cost us millions of Force..








Intimidate has been in this game since the beginning, it never caused problems, it has been used in PvP and PvE millions of times, but now suddenly because jedi alsosuffer under the effects it has to be nerfed? Be realistic before you cry nerf.


This skill is powerful, I admit that but this skill is also the only thing that allows for succesful tanking of any huge mob (i.e. nightsister elders, krayt, Gorax, Kimogila, tusken observers/witch doctor/executioners,....). Get this nerfed and I can assure you, you won't find a single brawling profession willingto tank for you when you go out hunting for your knight trials, who will take aggro when you go into the DWB, so that you may survive despite your lack of armor. Intimidate is the prime tanking skill of a brawling profession. After the combat revamp we will probably not be able to spamit like mad (which against some mobsreally is necessary)anymore and you will need us to have it to help you out when buffs are nerfed.


Astunned/intimidatedjedi hitting me still does 75-150 damage while a fencer under the same effectsusing a stunbatton does all of 11 damage beforePSG and synth are counted(I don't wear armor in either case). You're not even the ones hit worst by intimidate and yet you are the ones yelling for nerfs. It make you look like a crybaby.


If you want your good crystals from nightsister elders,ask one of us brawlers to tank for you, most of us are very happy to do so and will use our intimidate to help you out without problems (too bad we sometimeshave to try 10 times before it sticks on those witches). You get the crystals we get the pikes, we are both happy.


Crying nerfs on others because of some shortsighted reason like this will only get yourself crippled, get the devs to lower the force cost of your powers instead oftrying to break ours. (btw I believe force intimidate2 is an area effect and I'm very jealous of that).




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Malonesa
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:14 am
#29

Speaking of spaming states?

.....Jedi are really one to talk.......

Last I checked, Flury,Derv and Phantom all spamed state.

Sad thing is, I use 12 keys fighting a jedi. Only 2 of which are healing, one heals intim/stun/dizzy/blind in that order and the other heals damage. Dot macro never gets used.

How to play a jedi 101:

Activate Resist States/Poison/Disease/Bleeding, Armor2/Shield 2


Force Run 3
Derv2
Derv2
Derv2
DB

Or fighting a melee
Derv2
Derv2
Derv2
Slash2
Derv2
Derv2
SaberThrow3
Derv2
Derv2
Derv2
Slash2
Derv2
DB

While a brawler (tk for example)manages these.

lunge
stun
dizzy
blind
intim
kd2
kd1
leg hit
head hit
body hit
combo 2
unarmed hit1
warcy
intimidate


Tell me which class can keep up with a swoop, heal anything on their backs and has a damage type only toughness/psg's can resist.

Starting to sound like fencers crying because they can't dodge for 85 percent while intim. Half the jedi i fight/fought don't even have a button to clear their combat que, much less know better than to do two posture changes in a row. sounds to me like PVP noobs want an I Win button, as if it's not already there.

News flash, this is NOT THE MOVIES. For the 100th time no one gives a rats ass how long you spent grinding for the PRIVELAGE to PLAY a jedi. Not to be powerfull. Get over it.



Malonesa
Malonesa
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:16 am
#30

*edit
Unarmed Hit 3



Malonesa
-Vision-
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:19 am
#31






Malonesa wrote:
Speaking of spaming states?

.....Jedi are really one to talk.......

Last I checked, Flury,Derv and Phantom all spamed state.

Sad thing is, I use 12 keys fighting a jedi. Only 2 of which are healing, one heals intim/stun/dizzy/blind in that order and the other heals damage. Dot macro never gets used.

How to play a jedi 101:

Activate Resist States/Poison/Disease/Bleeding, Armor2/Shield 2


Force Run 3
Derv2
Derv2
Derv2
DB

Or fighting a melee
Derv2
Derv2
Derv2
Slash2
Derv2
Derv2
SaberThrow3
Derv2
Derv2
Derv2
Slash2
Derv2
DB

While a brawler (tk for example)manages these.

lunge
stun
dizzy
blind
intim
kd2
kd1
leg hit
head hit
body hit
combo 2
unarmed hit1
warcy
intimidate


Tell me which class can keep up with a swoop, heal anything on their backs and has a damage type only toughness/psg's can resist.

Starting to sound like fencers crying because they can't dodge for 85 percent while intim. Half the jedi i fight/fought don't even have a button to clear their combat que, much less know better than to do two posture changes in a row. sounds to me like PVP noobs want an I Win button, as if it's not already there.

News flash, this is NOT THE MOVIES. For the 100th time no one gives a rats ass how long you spent grinding for the PRIVELAGE to PLAY a jedi. Not to be powerfull. Get over it.





um i rip tkms in half........in the eyes of those who didnt grind all the things to get jedi and then grind to get knight yea of course jedi has to be just a class to them.........if jedi was gonna be just another class then the xp req's should be the same as any other class.........



My mission to kill the sexiest man alive failed as i am not suicidal.......

Master Dwarf tosser/ Master Shuttle Misser/Jedi Knight
SDraven
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:51 am
#32









Draethyl wrote:


Oh, dude it rocks and is quit easy to land cause even if you miss you can basically spam it till it does hehe..lets not disagree with the Jedi on this...I love me intimidate, however, it in no way compares to certain jedi powers so big deal....Jedi are still powerfull and so are combat stackers. So what...





point is...it cost nothing to get (novice brawler) and like nothing to use it.

Message Edited by SDraven on 08-19-2004 04:51 AM



Sharkon / Nokrahs
Imperial Pilot - Storm Squadron
| Grandmaster Chef | Dark Jedi Knight |
Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:52 am
#33






SDraven wrote:








Draethyl wrote:


Oh, dude it rocks and is quit easy to land cause even if you miss you can basically spam it till it does hehe..lets not disagree with the Jedi on this...I love me intimidate, however, it in no way compares to certain jedi powers so big deal....Jedi are still powerfull and so are combat stackers. So what...





point is...it cost nothing to get (novice brawler), big deal really.






It's still 15 skill points that's only 9 (it was 24wasn't it?)less than yours.



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SDraven
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:57 am
#34






Djena wrote:





SDraven wrote:








Draethyl wrote:


Oh, dude it rocks and is quit easy to land cause even if you miss you can basically spam it till it does hehe..lets not disagree with the Jedi on this...I love me intimidate, however, it in no way compares to certain jedi powers so big deal....Jedi are still powerfull and so are combat stackers. So what...





point is...it cost nothing to get (novice brawler), big deal really.






It's still 15 skill points that's only 9 (it was 24wasn't it?)less than yours.






it's actually 21 SP to get (Novice Powers / 0020) 620.000 Jedi Exp.


actually every Melee got it so don't come up with "I must sacrifice 15 pts to get".


it's the basic box to even start melee.




Sharkon / Nokrahs
Imperial Pilot - Storm Squadron
| Grandmaster Chef | Dark Jedi Knight |
Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:00 am
#35

No but jedi are taking it as well, and I seem to remember a lot of complaints about that. I don't want to see our Intimidate nerfed but I really want to see yours fixed, so the original poster should concentrate on that instead of crying nerf on us.


As I said in my first post in the thread, get the the devs to fix your force cost because your area intimidate has the potential to make every single brawler green with envy.



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The Emperor's humble servant - Fac ut Gaudeam!
waverat
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:00 am
#36






Djena wrote:





SDraven wrote:








Draethyl wrote:


Oh, dude it rocks and is quit easy to land cause even if you miss you can basically spam it till it does hehe..lets not disagree with the Jedi on this...I love me intimidate, however, it in no way compares to certain jedi powers so big deal....Jedi are still powerfull and so are combat stackers. So what...





point is...it cost nothing to get (novice brawler), big deal really.






It's still 15 skill points that's only 9 (it was 24wasn't it?)less than yours.





Just to get force intimidate you have to go up two boxes in the tree plus get novice force powers, the two boxes alone I believe are 15 sp not counting novice powers



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tolenpoe
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:08 am
#37

Brawler intimidate should remain just as it is....period. Just because you might be a FOTM jedi with no intimidate skill to use on melee stackers then that's your fault. You knew that jedi would be somewhat weak to melee and obviously knew that intimidate is the melee killer, SO WHY DIDN'T YOU GET INTIMIDATE AS A JEDI????? Right now i'm a Knight in the FRS system with novice brawler and love having intimidate so that i can spam it over and over as well on melee stackers. Me as well as many other jedi did the 3 mil xp grind for force initimidate2 and realized while its a nice skill to have, it costs waaaaaaay too much force and since weaken is broke why waste 22 pts for force intimidate1 at 300 force cost per use when you can invest in novice brawler at no force cost with 15 pts invested. If you don't have the ability to apply intimidate to melee stackers then good luck fighting them lol. You knew that it was such a nice skill to have, so why didn't you yourself pick up the skill?? Quit whining at non-jedi professions for having the skill and for that matter don't whine if another jedi uses it over and over on you. The skill has been there and will remain there.....even for jedi to use. That's the luxury of having that skill.





Shaiton Invar

/target self;
/saberSlash2;

MPowers is just like the devs....slow and gimped.
Aveng0r
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:15 am
#38

give jedi defense vs intimidate in the ls tree,


defense 5 at novice

10at box 2 technique,

15box 4 technique,

20at master


that would give about defense vs intimidate 50 for a master saber, which doesn't sound unreasonable???





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Djena
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:20 am
#39






Aveng0r wrote:

give jedi defense vs intimidate in the ls tree,


defense 5 at novice

10at box 2 technique,

15box 4 technique,

20at master


that would give about defense vs intimidate 50 for a master saber, which doesn't sound unreasonable???








Put it in the defender tree where it belongs and this idea ismight work, it would give defender a nice boost and none of us brawlers will complain. (but then Defender would probablybecome the new FOTM andget nerfed next).



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