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Thread: we will now be over powering the jedi :)
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
Jedi_Sanderson wrote:
Well we jedi might be getting our mind cost to healing, but we can still heal 10 times in a row (and dont forget mind regenerates also, so the actual number is higher), power attack got a 30% dmg increase, and with the elemental dmg fix, another 30% more dmg right there... Soon riflemen wont be the only ones to hit for 1k dmg.
Well... While we have some Jedi here that are actually positive about the changes... What is with all of the screaming over there? And why the hightened "I hate BH" posts over here?
Well i cant say for sure, but since im a fully template knight, i hardly get a visit from a BH anyway, so the entire BH / Jedi situation doesnt really bother me. I can see all the problems for the young padawans, but then again we cant have this high number of jedi, so something had to be done to make the grind harder. These young fellows might be bitching about how hard it is to lvl a paddy, but IMO its never been easier.
This patch 19 has some downsides for jedi, but i think they are minimal. The fix to states will be alot more vital, since it will force all jedi to get the "heal all states" skill, which noone has right now. (For some reason we are the only combat proffesion without the states recoveries, so we will have to spend 20 skillpoints in a skill instead)
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
Jedi_Sanderson wrote:
Well we jedi might be getting our mind cost to healing, but we can still heal 10 times in a row (and dont forget mind regenerates also, so the actual number is higher), power attack got a 30% dmg increase, and with the elemental dmg fix, another 30% more dmg right there... Soon riflemen wont be the only ones to hit for 1k dmg.
Well... While we have some Jedi here that are actually positive about the changes... What is with all of the screaming over there? And why the hightened "I hate BH" posts over here?
It must be all the respec Jedi.
HeadRoll wrote:
If anything combat willbe resolved faster, which is a good thing. No morehour long battles, lol
With jedi offensive powers being upped, if they close in and you are not able to snare/root/knock them downtorecover and get out of melee range you are going to drop fast. On the other hand, if you have the upper hand initially and get them on the defensive they won't be ablespam healsall day.
People who are ill prepared for battle and had difficulty in pvp as a bh or jedi will still be terrible after this publish.
Exactly, if i get a BH rooted / snared and knockdowned, and i get within melee range, that BH wont last many seconds.
Well actually the respecced ones are all done with their templates now
Tigrayne wrote:
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
Jedi_Sanderson wrote:
Well we jedi might be getting our mind cost to healing, but we can still heal 10 times in a row (and dont forget mind regenerates also, so the actual number is higher), power attack got a 30% dmg increase, and with the elemental dmg fix, another 30% more dmg right there... Soon riflemen wont be the only ones to hit for 1k dmg.
Well... While we have some Jedi here that are actually positive about the changes... What is with all of the screaming over there? And why the hightened "I hate BH" posts over here?
It must be all the respec Jedi.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Have a nice Morning
SOE really messed up with that one.
Jedi_Sanderson wrote:
Well actually the respecced ones are all done with their templates now
Tigrayne wrote:
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
Jedi_Sanderson wrote:
Well we jedi might be getting our mind cost to healing, but we can still heal 10 times in a row (and dont forget mind regenerates also, so the actual number is higher), power attack got a 30% dmg increase, and with the elemental dmg fix, another 30% more dmg right there... Soon riflemen wont be the only ones to hit for 1k dmg.
Well... While we have some Jedi here that are actually positive about the changes... What is with all of the screaming over there? And why the hightened "I hate BH" posts over here?
It must be all the respec Jedi.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Have a nice Morning
Tigrayne wrote:
ShaikeRamjet wrote:
Jedi_Sanderson wrote:
Well we jedi might be getting our mind cost to healing, but we can still heal 10 times in a row (and dont forget mind regenerates also, so the actual number is higher), power attack got a 30% dmg increase, and with the elemental dmg fix, another 30% more dmg right there... Soon riflemen wont be the only ones to hit for 1k dmg.
Well... While we have some Jedi here that are actually positive about the changes... What is with all of the screaming over there? And why the hightened "I hate BH" posts over here?
It must be all the respec Jedi.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Have a nice Morning
I saw guildies go from unlocked paddy to finished template in 3 weeks, just grinding out 120k a day. Although i feel good for my guildmates, its just ruining the game.
Message Edited by Jedi_Sanderson on 06-25-2005 12:37 AM
Well there are still some who got caught with thier pants down, and had all/ most of their points banked for respect when it ended. 
Can't realy feel sympathy for them..I tried, but just could not find it in me.
Yes, now there are many, when thier was once few-er. But that only means more to Hunt, as most are still n00bs even though theyhave thierfinished templates.
Just makes it that much better.
Jedi-Sanderson wrote:
Having a jedi is an honor
It is? Ithought of it assomeone who obviously HAD A TON OF TIME ON THEIR HANDS. I looked at some of the real life fan fest pics of peopleinjedi garb or flashing their plastic light sabres, and OMG, Overweight and Pale seem to be the norm.
Message Edited by HeadRoll on 06-25-2005 12:52 AM
Message Edited by HeadRoll on 06-25-2005 12:54 AM
I respect Bhs, But am disgusted with all the /respect Whiny a^%holes that are causing Nerf, upon nerf.
I am hoping the Devs balance Jedi Healing with our saved Saber reduction in cost. I like the increased saber throw damage, and as for power attack, my template is PvP designed, and It relies on attacks other than power attack; as it costs to much action in PvP to be effective. I use it as a critical kill during a knockdown.
Anyhow hopefully its a good patch, and not just an untested Nerfbat Swing.
Korom wrote:
The one thing I'm fearing is the 1v1 BH/Jedi system that's been proposed. If that goes live do you know how many people are going to be griping and crying because they can't kill the high level marks. I'm all for Jedi being stronger than other professions but if this is 1v1 no matter what level the Jedi is....that's just ludicrous. The thing that I can see might happen is there will beless BH vs. Knight attacks than there are now. It will be all on the paddies because the BH can't compete 1v1 with knights, as it should be, but I can see the uproar that will cause. Then if they make BH stronger to compensate it will unbalance pvp, if they make Jedi weaker to compensate it will degenerate the value of the profession. Well maybe that's what's needed here though....it might clear some of the Jedi off the streets of our cities and the GCW.
It's NOT true that a BH cannot kill a full template Knight. NOT true at all. I've killed them solo. You just have to do some work -- which you SHOULD be doing in the first place. Get the right equipment. Get the right foods. Get the right SEAs. Stalk your mark. Wait until he's weakest -- from attacking a DJM, or just being beat on by feral wooks. It's all about playing smart. Use your head. The self-pitying bounty hunters who whine about it being impossible to kill full template knights alone aren't using their heads.
lilbobtown wrote:
Hmmm,i would like to know how many people would like this game too have similarities to the film....I DO, that is why i play the game, my point is....why should bh's overpower jedi ?...look what happened to jango.
Jango lost to a Jedi Master. He brought a Jedi Knight to a stalemate. Bh vs Jedi Knight should be an even match. Jedi guardians should be 1.5x and Jedi Masters should be 2x stronger than any other profession. It's common sense since every Jedi that hit double xp and respec is a full temp Jedi now and there is a game breaking imbalance between the shear number of Jedi and the other professions. If there wasn't, the GCW boards wouldn't be screaming right now. All other professions see it as game breaking when they don't stand a chance against 15 opposing Jedi. And before you say, "Well, get more jedi on the other side," no one wants to feel useless and have to depend on an "Alpha Class" in order to win a war.
When the CU was published, it was made so everyone will have their niche in the GCW and be equally useful in a fight... except for Jedi. The power of Knights SHOULD be reduced and make the Guardians and Masters a lot more powerful. At least we can limit those still on the servers. There is still time to save this game and that would be one way to do it.
OhBuggah wrote:
Korom wrote:
The one thing I'm fearing is the 1v1 BH/Jedi system that's been proposed. If that goes live do you know how many people are going to be griping and crying because they can't kill the high level marks. I'm all for Jedi being stronger than other professions but if this is 1v1 no matter what level the Jedi is....that's just ludicrous. The thing that I can see might happen is there will beless BH vs. Knight attacks than there are now. It will be all on the paddies because the BH can't compete 1v1 with knights, as it should be, but I can see the uproar that will cause. Then if they make BH stronger to compensate it will unbalance pvp, if they make Jedi weaker to compensate it will degenerate the value of the profession. Well maybe that's what's needed here though....it might clear some of the Jedi off the streets of our cities and the GCW.
It's NOT true that a BH cannot kill a full template Knight. NOT true at all. I've killed them solo. You just have to do some work -- which you SHOULD be doing in the first place. Get the right equipment. Get the right foods. Get the right SEAs. Stalk your mark. Wait until he's weakest -- from attacking a DJM, or just being beat on by feral wooks. It's all about playing smart. Use your head. The self-pitying bounty hunters who whine about it being impossible to kill full template knights alone aren't using their heads.
First of all what I said was true, from a certain point of view. I've killed fully templated knights as well, and I do know how to kill them by "using my head" but in the system we have, not everyone has the ability or desire to play a game for hours to days hunting one mark. What I meant -- I guess since people want to throw around insults when I don't explain fully -- is this....A fully templated Jedi can beat a Bounty Hunter in a fair fight if the Jedi knows what he's doing. I'm talking straight fight, not some sneak up on him when he's at 1/5 life bar and incap him in a shot or two while he has rancors or sisters, or trando's or whatever on him. I mean a straight shooter match (exceptions to the rule are taken as I know there are a few atm). Also, I know lots of bounty hunters who don't have the millions to spend on high end armor/weapons/foods. The game is supposed to be recreational, and balanced. Not saying that it doesnt take a long time to get a group but at least partners can go after jedi now. Why is it that you have toheap insults without looking at the bigger picture. Its not all about hunting jedi here, we have other factors that are out of game issues as well as in game things. Also, I didn't catch any hint of self pity in my words, that was insinuated by you. There are ways to hunt marks but the system right now is designed for you to
--Get mark from terminal
--Get bio signature
--Track mark with droids
--Attack mark when you find him/her/it
--Kill or get killed by mark
In the simplest terms that's the system. Now there are many ways to implement the system but taking at its basest form you can see how I come up with the conclusion I did, I hope.