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Thread: Jedi gets real life restraining order against BH on Bria

Cyclonus-
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:29 am
#40






joejccva wrote:


Ok this is getting out of hand now. Some people just don't know when to quit while they're ahead. Let this thread die and the issues with it.


If this somehow affects the rest of us players then we are going to be pissed. You never know what SOE will do to protect themselves.


LET THIS THREAD DIE ALREADY!






I'm guessing you're a BH if you're posting here.


In other words: it does affect you.





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Centaurius
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:31 am
#41

NO it is already out of hand and affecting some peoples RealLives now. In comparison at this pointyour gaming experience being affected is insignificant.



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Auraveda
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:39 am
#42

I saw the original post on the Bria forums a couple weeks ago. All I can say is, wow.

I guess it's a "good" thing that names have been taken off of the Jedi bounties, otherwise Cho-sen would be getting a LOT of attention right now from BHs.

Message Edited by Auraveda on 09-09-2005 11:41 AM





I had a Force sensitive character, with 23 and a half boxes ground out.
I had a master creature handler.
I had a high lvl crafter character.
I had a Bounty Hunter that I hunted PC Jedi with.

My game is dead.

AD_Maj
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:50 am
#43

I bet they know each other irl. They have to know each other irl. Because SOE would take care of the problem, not the law! Its a game!




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Centaurius
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:50 am
#44

easy fix for you is to stop reading these forums and posts like this, nobody made you click on this much less read it.



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Ulrek_Oden
Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:55 am
#45


Centaurius wrote:

I could really care less if u call bs on this and I will not pm the information to you so u can just post it here as the person who this affects doesn't want any more legal trouble. I will however, post the screenies from imagedump of the original threat of legal action.






Both images are the same.....

And threats towards legal action mean zippo...

As you said here it is public record...

What are you afraid of?

Can you tell me which court or county it was filed in?

Which Judge even?

Are both parties in the same state?

If I showed you an IG screenshot of me saying I just met Elvis would you believe that?

Message Edited by Ulrek_Oden on 09-09-2005 02:56 PM



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Sionica
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:38 pm
#46


OMG ! ! ! be careful BH sorry that happen to ya .Protection from Harassment Act 1997Main features of the Act


The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 introduces four new criminal offences:



  • harassment (section 2): summary only, six months' imprisonment and/or a level 5 fine;

  • fear of violence (section 4); either way, five years' imprisonment and/or a fine on indictment; as above summarily;

  • breach of civil injunction section 3(6); either way, same penalty as S.4 offence;

  • breach of restraining order section 5(5); either way, same penalty as S.4.

A new civil tort of harassment is created by Section 3.


All of the offences are arrestable; S.2 under S.24(2) of PACE, which is amended by S.2(3) of the Act; the remaining offences by virtue of their five year maximum penalty.


Under section 5, the Crown Court and the magistrates' court can make a restraining order on conviction, prohibiting the defendant from doing anything described in the order, for the purpose of protecting the victim from further harassment or fear of violence. This is one of the major benefits of the Act; .

EasterDurni
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:50 pm
#47






Sionica wrote:


OMG ! ! ! be careful BH sorry that happen to ya .Protection from Harassment Act 1997Main features of the Act


The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 introduces four new criminal offences:



  • harassment (section 2): summary only, six months' imprisonment and/or a level 5 fine;

  • fear of violence (section 4); either way, five years' imprisonment and/or a fine on indictment; as above summarily;

  • breach of civil injunction section 3(6); either way, same penalty as S.4 offence;

  • breach of restraining order section 5(5); either way, same penalty as S.4.

A new civil tort of harassment is created by Section 3.


All of the offences are arrestable; S.2 under S.24(2) of PACE, which is amended by S.2(3) of the Act; the remaining offences by virtue of their five year maximum penalty.


Under section 5, the Crown Court and the magistrates' court can make a restraining order on conviction, prohibiting the defendant from doing anything described in the order, for the purpose of protecting the victim from further harassment or fear of violence. This is one of the major benefits of the Act; .






Nice research, Sionica. This is UK law and I don't know if this particular matter was under that jurisdiction but it adds an interesting new twist -- better find out where somebody lives before harassing them.


Some places in the US have hate crime laws too, which cover things like ethnic insults or insults pertaining to being gay and which might cover hate tells and smack talk if you do it to the wrong person.







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bigbounty666
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:14 pm
#48

O.k. guys here's the story. Phileo knows cho-sen in real life. He basically said we used the game to threaten him in real life. That's probably how it got signed. I talked to my lawyer. I have pre-paid legal and he told me this. We can't go to his house or his work, but in game, we can do what we want. Since we are not attacking a real life person, it has no hold over a game. It took awhile for my awyer to stop laughing, it was hilarious. It would be like saying a bunch of things about say Austin Powers, and Mike Myers trying to sue. Were not saying slanderous things in real life, we're making fun of a character. So what this means that every bh, grab every neutral mission and destroy him. That simple.



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Centaurius
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:22 pm
#49






bigbounty666 wrote:

O.k. guys here's the story. Phileo knows cho-sen in real life. He basically said we used the game to threaten him in real life. That's probably how it got signed. I talked to my lawyer. I have pre-paid legal and he told me this. We can't go to his house or his work, but in game, we can do what we want. Since we are not attacking a real life person, it has no hold over a game. It took awhile for my awyer to stop laughing, it was hilarious. It would be like saying a bunch of things about say Austin Powers, and Mike Myers trying to sue. Were not saying slanderous things in real life, we're making fun of a character. So what this means that every bh, grab every neutral mission and destroy him. That simple.






he is one of the people named in the injunction. I will not break my word and post the screens of the injunction but if his lawyer says all in-game is cool, maybe he will post em.



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bigbounty666
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:35 pm
#50

Oh and Phileo, if you have someone that can do you legal favors, you can easily have it "quashed" or stopped. I can't do anything since I wasn't served.



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Angamarth
Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:37 pm
#51






bigbounty666 wrote:

O.k. guys here's the story. Phileo knows cho-sen in real life. He basically said we used the game to threaten him in real life. That's probably how it got signed. I talked to my lawyer. I have pre-paid legal and he told me this. We can't go to his house or his work, but in game, we can do what we want. Since we are not attacking a real life person, it has no hold over a game. It took awhile for my awyer to stop laughing, it was hilarious. It would be like saying a bunch of things about say Austin Powers, and Mike Myers trying to sue. Were not saying slanderous things in real life, we're making fun of a character. So what this means that every bh, grab every neutral mission and destroy him. That simple.




Word of warning: This sounds like you're instigating harrassment of an individual, which is against the EULA. Be careful what you say so you don't get yourself banned.




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Grunzer
Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:39 pm
#52






EasterDurni wrote:





Sionica wrote:


OMG ! ! ! be careful BH sorry that happen to ya .Protection from Harassment Act 1997Main features of the Act


The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 introduces four new criminal offences:



  • harassment (section 2): summary only, six months' imprisonment and/or a level 5 fine;

  • fear of violence (section 4); either way, five years' imprisonment and/or a fine on indictment; as above summarily;

  • breach of civil injunction section 3(6); either way, same penalty as S.4 offence;

  • breach of restraining order section 5(5); either way, same penalty as S.4.

A new civil tort of harassment is created by Section 3.


All of the offences are arrestable; S.2 under S.24(2) of PACE, which is amended by S.2(3) of the Act; the remaining offences by virtue of their five year maximum penalty.


Under section 5, the Crown Court and the magistrates' court can make a restraining order on conviction, prohibiting the defendant from doing anything described in the order, for the purpose of protecting the victim from further harassment or fear of violence. This is one of the major benefits of the Act; .






Nice research, Sionica. This is UK law and I don't know if this particular matter was under that jurisdiction but it adds an interesting new twist -- better find out where somebody lives before harassing them.


Some places in the US have hate crime laws too, which cover things like ethnic insults or insults pertaining to being gay and which might cover hate tells and smack talk if you do it to the wrong person.










Supposedly the accused was given the order by an Arizona Sherriff's Deputy. So no, that wouldn't apply.


Honestly though I think this is a prank set up by a couple of someones who don't like the BH/Jedi system and want to get SOE to change it.


Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-09-2005 05:40 PM



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