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Thread: how do you fight mdefenders?
HotMetal82 wrote:
"How do you fight mdefenders?"
My answer would be: "Just like any other jedi."
It really boils down in this case to your skills as a bounty hunter and your template.
By skills as a BH I refer to these little, but oh so important things that I hardly see anymore since the CU:
1. Studying your target (template, what is he doing, where is he going etc).
2. Setting up an ambush. (Basically...dont go to your target. Let the target come to YOU. To succeed in this, look at part 1.)
3. All this is for nothing if you cant pull off a devestating and brutal alphastrike.(M. Rifles is preferable, but can be done with other temps. Consider using bomb droids.)
These three steps used to be a mantra that many Pre-CU ranged bounty hunters swore by.
Simply because with 60-85% saberblock only way for a solo ranged bh to win...was total and complete surprise. And creative use of bomb-droids and other tricks.
Now...its like easy-mode. I miss the thrill of taking down a Knight with a pistoleer template pre-cu.
Now it's just too easy. But the "hunt" part is still what drives me most, not the actual fighting and killing of your target. That's the cherry on the cake.
It's just so much more rewarding to succeed in trapping your mark and taking him down in an instant.
The simple "go in and kill the jedi" (that seems to be the norm these days) just cant compare.
I used to watch Jedi for days and days moving around, what starports they used, where they'd go, etc....people are a creature of habit, and pre-cu, I'd wait for them to swoop back to their nearest shuttleport/starport, and if I was lucky, their buffs had started to drop. I'd send in a bomb droid, and follow that up with an underhand shot, a crippling or stopping shot, and then spray shot.
Just running in with guns blazing against an MLS was either going to get you killed quick, get the Jedi to FD, or get the Jedi to Force Run and cause a chase. You had to finish quickly though, becasue of the group TEF back then. That was frustrating at times, but it was also exhilirating too.
Just my humble opinion
imoortalknight wrote:
i dont disagree that mdefenders should be good thanks. but 90 percent dodge on accuracy capped should not be allowed period.
DOT's ftw!!!
1) Its no need to be MCM just take the dot line of cm and +25 med warfare tapes.
2) If your mark has a pre CU saber youredead before the fight even startedanyway...
3) With +25 Heal eff (+19 by BE clothes) and a med droid 110 med capability + citros snow 40 heal eff you can heal same as a MCM. So no need to have CM4xxx. Better stick to master rifleman for more Accuracy and Defense.
With such a template and gear u should be the perfect Mdef killer ....if no pre CU "I win button" saber involved. I killed about 30 Jedi Post CU and 90% were Mdef of them.
Pre CU u cant compare to now since no ranged BH eva was able to kill a full templated jedi solo. Pre CU a full Jedi was a 1 man army only stopable by melee def stackers who work in a good team.
I remember when the first jedi on my server was full template andkilled about 30 ranged people in under 5 minutes without a scratch. That was my last base fight...1.5 years ago or somethin...
Thats the reason why so many jedi complain now they are weak and what not.... Well its true that there are ways now to solo 90% of them but only cause 90% of them are post CU jedi with standard sabers and not 700-800 damage sabers that cut u in half with 3 hits. So its all about skill and a good BH practise alot in PVP while a Jedi only does spin group and afk grinding...
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JenniferAmidala wrote:
HotMetal82 wrote:
"How do you fight mdefenders?"
My answer would be: "Just like any other jedi."
It really boils down in this case to your skills as a bounty hunter and your template.
By skills as a BH I refer to these little, but oh so important things that I hardly see anymore since the CU:
1. Studying your target (template, what is he doing, where is he going etc).
2. Setting up an ambush. (Basically...dont go to your target. Let the target come to YOU. To succeed in this, look at part 1.)
3. All this is for nothing if you cant pull off a devestating and brutal alphastrike.(M. Rifles is preferable, but can be done with other temps. Consider using bomb droids.)
These three steps used to be a mantra that many Pre-CU ranged bounty hunters swore by.
Simply because with 60-85% saberblock only way for a solo ranged bh to win...was total and complete surprise. And creative use of bomb-droids and other tricks.
Now...its like easy-mode. I miss the thrill of taking down a Knight with a pistoleer template pre-cu.
Now it's just too easy. But the "hunt" part is still what drives me most, not the actual fighting and killing of your target. That's the cherry on the cake.
It's just so much more rewarding to succeed in trapping your mark and taking him down in an instant.
The simple "go in and kill the jedi" (that seems to be the norm these days
I used to watch Jedi for days and days moving around, what starports they used, where they'd go, etc....people are a creature of habit, and pre-cu, I'd wait for them to swoop back to their nearest shuttleport/starport, and if I was lucky, their buffs had started to drop. I'd send in a bomb droid, and follow that up with an underhand shot, a crippling or stopping shot, and then spray shot.
Just running in with guns blazing against an MLS was either going to get you killed quick, get the Jedi to FD, or get the Jedi to Force Run and cause a chase. You had to finish quickly though, becasue of the group TEF back then. That was frustrating at times, but it was also exhilirating too.
Just my humble opinion
It's all about runnin-n-gunnin "Ah'm gunna git me a Jedi, yeehaw!!!!" anymore.
Im all for MDEFs not taking much damage, as long as they can give it
Currently the only way that you can realistically beat a MLS/MDEF is going MCM
Im pistoleer and can be dead before even getting one shot to stick
RingSting_IOM wrote:
Im all for MDEFs not taking much damage, as long as they can give it
Currently the only way that you can realistically beat a MLS/MDEF is going MCM
Im pistoleer and can be dead before even getting one shot to stick
if you cant atleast tank a jedi regardless of his saberstats for 5 minutes + you should give up bh and do m.dance instead because there is absolutely 0 hope for you
Nakahs wrote:Pre CU u cant compare to now since no ranged BH eva was able to kill a full templated jedi solo. Pre CU a full Jedi was a 1 man army only stopable by melee def stackers who work in a good team.
Bullcrap. I killed several with a pistols-template.
Only a moron would go toe to toe against a MLS pre-cu.
(with a ranged template)
Stealth, surprise and a massive alphastrike could back then bring down ANY jedi, even those high in the FRS.
Same goes for today, only its much easier now.
HotMetal82 wrote:
Nakahs wrote:
Pre CU u cant compare to now since no ranged BH eva was able to kill a full templated jedi solo. Pre CU a full Jedi was a 1 man army only stopable by melee def stackers who work in a good team.
Bullcrap. I killed several with a pistols-template.
Only a moron would go toe to toe against a MLS pre-cu.
(with a ranged template)
Stealth, surprise and a massive alphastrike could back then bring down ANY jedi, even those high in the FRS.
Same goes for today, only its much easier now.
Nacoa wrote:
NoStyleGuy wrote:
And 90% of the jedi say that jedi are underpowered...
That's 'cause they can't find the "I WIN!!!" button.
Because Pearl now are all nerfed. All bad quality pearl
imoortalknight wrote:
i dont disagree that mdefenders should be good thanks. but 90 percent dodge on accuracy capped should not be allowed period.
How do you feel about a Melee Stacker running anImproved CoB macro?