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btw exploiting is using game features for ure own advantage which are not desinged for this action

You still don't get it, do you?

Both sides can say things about the others... Some of these true, some of these halfly true, some of these not true. Who cares?

I'm always shocked, how immature can people be. You blame all things on Jedi, while Jedi is the only profession nerfed to hell, the only profession who can't be successful in anything without being either lucky or rich. And still, you are saying we "destroyed the SW timeline" - how many of you whine all day about rebel controlled planets, or rebels walkign around OPENLY? Noone? Well, just as I thought.

Forget the movies - the SWG world is not the movies, and nobody said it is. If you can accept that rebels controlling some planets, then you can accept Jedi walking around.

Oh-oh, wait... you said something about anonymus missions? You, my friends, and you only done that, by griefing other players. If people couldn't left the behaviour of a child, then don't cry.

You can't beat a full temp mark? Man, you should be poor BH then. Right now, any full template BH can beat a Jedi. Not easily, but if you want easy fight, go play PvE with CL40 npcs. You talking about a MBH-only can't kill anything? You have 250 skillpoints, use it. If you want something else than a fighter, accept the consequences.

I wish the majority of kids leave SWG, and the rest grow up at last, and we can have a good game with each other.

And, most importantly, don't generalize. Just because someone a Jedi, doesn't mean he talks trash, runs away from the fight (I personally never ran away, from CL57 to CL80... yes, sometimes I lost the fight, so what? I can accept, that someone better than me.), so why would you punish the whole Jedi community? You pay the same amount of money, so don't try to say what we must do and what we must not. No, we can't solo anything (still not with MDef), and you have a much larger damage AND defense opportunity than we do. Just take a look at your shiny armors, for example.

All I say is that neither of the two sides better of the other, and none of the players should cry for a nerf regarding an other profession. You got so much love from the devs in the past few months, a half of that we did't have during the whole SWG uptime. Everyone should grow up, and act like a mature human being.

Message Edited by Dinchamion on 09-08-2005 01:37 PM

Message Edited by Dinchamion on 09-08-2005 01:38 PM

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BountyGreg wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:

1. BHs are the only ones who can loot really good stuff. That drops out all of the melee profs at once.

2. BHs are the most efficient profession right now in the game.

3. BHs reached several goals: they made Jedi nerfed into oblivion (heal, damage), made the hysteria around Jedi (without any good reason, tbh, just because some kids are jealous of what others achieved)

4. BHs dominates PvP... a BH can beat any Jedi with good using of the skills, therefore: a group of Jedi < a group of BHs

(5. BHs everywhere! )
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here my answer:

1. Jedi are the only one able to get a char free and do BH aswell to loot really good stuff....
2. Jedi and more precisely Defenders literally own PvP and PvE...all defenses in PvP, AI in PvE,
Ive never seen a spinning group forming at MOP asking for BH but every day they ask for...defenders or jedi only, strange uh? I think everyone else then you is stupid and they should ask for BH since they are the only efficent profession

3. Jedi reached several goals too, only with cloak a jedi can run through the corvette where it would take at least 3 ppl before, and they don´t even have to fight just run around if it´s the destruction one.
Jedi reached that the economy got messed up since they could solo anything and resell the loots easily making rare stuff comon to everyone..only thinking about AV21 for example, they used to sell for 2 pr 3 millions/piece..now i can get for that price
Jedi also almost got us an all new XP system where the XP would have been divided between all players, unlike now. Yea the community had to stand ground together against SOE because of YOU jedi.
Jedi community became so big that you dont feel like you are between episode4 and 5 but more like in a clone of something lookin like Star Wars universe, where loads of ppl use glowstick to fight and have strange magical powers...force wielder, no, magicians, you are nothing even close to jedi. jedi used to be "Knights" protector of the peac, until they turn to the dark side..today allyou have is rebel jedi spitting some crap at BH cuz they hunt them..dunno what you guys know about Jedi, but as Obi-Wan met Jango he didn´t start to insult him..ah well, yer no jedi so i don´t complain. or maybethe devs should do a chat system where jedi would lose honor and if happens too often, lose jedi...just an idea lol, maybe you´d learn to BEHAVE like a Jedi.

4. BH dominate crap, a BH with no other skills then BH do crap dmg and have like 90 accuracy lol...MCM help to it, but most of the time the only ppl i see PvP are jedi or Jedi slaves..I won´t say more but I know many ppl understand what I mean

5. Jedi everywhere, unlike BH it´s not supposed to be like that...Oo well, it´s a parallel universe...why don´t we have Dagobah and Sith, after all, nothing follows ANY Star Wars rules so who would really care, and don´t tell me there are only 2 Sith..i can strangely kill Sith every day on Dathomir by doing village "quests"

To make it short, you know absolutely nothing about the game or play something different then we do.

Long Live the neutral BHs hunting Jedi and using all bad tricks doing it...kill em all!!!

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well, I knew smugglers who could and did solo vettes as well-it was called fd.

until very recently, two of the most iconic force users (and I use the term user and not jedi because the emperor was not a jedi) did not use a saber. Both the Emperor and Yoda used....you guessed it! POWERS! Not only that, but what is Vader known for doing? Is it:

A. Using his saber to decapitate Imperial officers who have displeased him-

B. Ignite his saber to threaten said officers...OR (drum roll please)

C. Use force choke to dispatch with again said officers.

Seem to remember Luke using choke as well.

Dunno what you guys know about BH, but as Jango was met by obi wan, he didn't start to insult him, nor when Jango defeated the jedi in the arena did he yell PWNED!!! NOR did Boba Fett do the same to Han (I know he is not a jedi, but still it was a hunt)

yer no BH, but infact, you do complain-your entire thread bears witness to that.

Ok, let's dissect this one, shall we? a BH has 121 sp spent if that is the only combat prof he uses. What other level 54 toon out there can fight very well without having more skills? INCLUDING JEDI.....none, that is the short answer....the long answer is that BH is not, has never, and shall never be a stand alone proffession. It is a hybrid proffession by its very nature you moron-you are supposed to take other skills to augment your toon-reread your little book that came with the game-the annoying guy that explains the game even says that Boba fett can use just about every weapon there is, and can stitch himself up if a bounty gets out of hand....

you really should get out more....there are all kinds of temps out pvping-not just jedi....and guess what one of the main temps out there in in a battle is? MBH/MRifleman. All temps have a place in a massive fight-in fact, if you don't have some normal toons helping out and laying cover fire, and taking down the othersides range fighters, you are going to lose.

to make it short, you are the one that knows absolutely nithing about the game, and OBVIOUSLY don't play the same one we do. Also, concidering that jedi have probably been around a little bit longer than other toons, you are making a silly argument......

oh, and in case you are wondering, yes, I was a BH for a very long time, and now my favorite saying comes to mind......I would bet by the way that you are talking that I have more time refreshing the BH terminal in search of a bounty than you do on your account...(and don't let the registered date fool ya-I was a master BH loooong before I bothered with the forums)

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Deathtomelee wrote:

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BountyGreg wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:

1. BHs are the only ones who can loot really good stuff. That drops out all of the melee profs at once.

2. BHs are the most efficient profession right now in the game.

3. BHs reached several goals: they made Jedi nerfed into oblivion (heal, damage), made the hysteria around Jedi (without any good reason, tbh, just because some kids are jealous of what others achieved)

4. BHs dominates PvP... a BH can beat any Jedi with good using of the skills, therefore: a group of Jedi < a group of BHs

(5. BHs everywhere! )
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here my answer:

1. Jedi are the only one able to get a char free and do BH aswell to loot really good stuff....
2. Jedi and more precisely Defenders literally own PvP and PvE...all defenses in PvP, AI in PvE,
Ive never seen a spinning group forming at MOP asking for BH but every day they ask for...defenders or jedi only, strange uh? I think everyone else then you is stupid and they should ask for BH since they are the only efficent profession

3. Jedi reached several goals too, only with cloak a jedi can run through the corvette where it would take at least 3 ppl before, and they don´t even have to fight just run around if it´s the destruction one.
Jedi reached that the economy got messed up since they could solo anything and resell the loots easily making rare stuff comon to everyone..only thinking about AV21 for example, they used to sell for 2 pr 3 millions/piece..now i can get for that price
Jedi also almost got us an all new XP system where the XP would have been divided between all players, unlike now. Yea the community had to stand ground together against SOE because of YOU jedi.
Jedi community became so big that you dont feel like you are between episode4 and 5 but more like in a clone of something lookin like Star Wars universe, where loads of ppl use glowstick to fight and have strange magical powers...force wielder, no, magicians, you are nothing even close to jedi. jedi used to be "Knights" protector of the peac, until they turn to the dark side..today allyou have is rebel jedi spitting some crap at BH cuz they hunt them..dunno what you guys know about Jedi, but as Obi-Wan met Jango he didn´t start to insult him..ah well, yer no jedi so i don´t complain. or maybethe devs should do a chat system where jedi would lose honor and if happens too often, lose jedi...just an idea lol, maybe you´d learn to BEHAVE like a Jedi.

4. BH dominate crap, a BH with no other skills then BH do crap dmg and have like 90 accuracy lol...MCM help to it, but most of the time the only ppl i see PvP are jedi or Jedi slaves..I won´t say more but I know many ppl understand what I mean

5. Jedi everywhere, unlike BH it´s not supposed to be like that...Oo well, it´s a parallel universe...why don´t we have Dagobah and Sith, after all, nothing follows ANY Star Wars rules so who would really care, and don´t tell me there are only 2 Sith..i can strangely kill Sith every day on Dathomir by doing village "quests"

To make it short, you know absolutely nothing about the game or play something different then we do.

Long Live the neutral BHs hunting Jedi and using all bad tricks doing it...kill em all!!!

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well, I knew smugglers who could and did solo vettes as well-it was called fd.

until very recently, two of the most iconic force users (and I use the term user and not jedi because the emperor was not a jedi) did not use a saber. Both the Emperor and Yoda used....you guessed it! POWERS! Not only that, but what is Vader known for doing? Is it:

A. Using his saber to decapitate Imperial officers who have displeased him-

B. Ignite his saber to threaten said officers...OR (drum roll please)

C. Use force choke to dispatch with again said officers.

Seem to remember Luke using choke as well.

Dunno what you guys know about BH, but as Jango was met by obi wan, he didn't start to insult him, nor when Jango defeated the jedi in the arena did he yell PWNED!!! NOR did Boba Fett do the same to Han (I know he is not a jedi, but still it was a hunt)

yer no BH, but infact, you do complain-your entire thread bears witness to that.

Ok, let's dissect this one, shall we? a BH has 121 sp spent if that is the only combat prof he uses. What other level 54 toon out there can fight very well without having more skills? INCLUDING JEDI.....none, that is the short answer....the long answer is that BH is not, has never, and shall never be a stand alone proffession. It is a hybrid proffession by its very nature you moron-you are supposed to take other skills to augment your toon-reread your little book that came with the game-the annoying guy that explains the game even says that Boba fett can use just about every weapon there is, and can stitch himself up if a bounty gets out of hand....

you really should get out more....there are all kinds of temps out pvping-not just jedi....and guess what one of the main temps out there in in a battle is? MBH/MRifleman. All temps have a place in a massive fight-in fact, if you don't have some normal toons helping out and laying cover fire, and taking down the othersides range fighters, you are going to lose.

to make it short, you are the one that knows absolutely nithing about the game, and OBVIOUSLY don't play the same one we do. Also, concidering that jedi have probably been around a little bit longer than other toons, you are making a silly argument......

oh, and in case you are wondering, yes, I was a BH for a very long time, and now my favorite saying comes to mind......I would bet by the way that you are talking that I have more time refreshing the BH terminal in search of a bounty than you do on your account...(and don't let the registered date fool ya-I was a master BH loooong before I bothered with the forums)

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1. FD in corvette was a bug and so as it was used, an exploit...cloak isn't...that's the whole difference

2. You are making a rule out of 3 litle things you saw in the movies, did you even read at least 1 of the books? I guess not, Anakin/Vader was a great saber fighter, but there's nothing more impressive then using "magic" to make people fear you..people are scared of what they don't know...

3. well maybe im no BH..but I could..now tell me you could be a jedi and I'll call the docs

4. if you spend as much SP as a BH does in Jedi, you can kill them easily for a fact I did it...if you can't play your jedi, it's your problem...and yes I can talk about it since i have a jedi too, even if it's no fun at all. A jedi who can manage his force is strong enough to kill a BH..no problem at all, the BH has no dmg output, while the jedi can kill you even if the duel will last for an hour.

5. Well i guess yer not on my server either, but all you see are jedi and jedi slaves...all GCW is rules by jedi and if you don't believe me, just come have a look on Gorath. Oo eya it's a PvP server, so don't come cry if you die every 2 minutes by the hand of jedi...they like to run from SP to SP and kill all the poor souls who are Spec Force for some reason...

5. well my toon is old enoug..been here since release and even before in Beta...so no NO jedi is older then my toon..

7. I don't look at the date you registered, I just see you play with closed eyes...but at the end..Jedi shouldn't even be in this game, and if, then not more then a hand full, like the devs promised us BEFORE release. I still wait for the NPC BHs hunting Jedi btw.

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Dinchamion wrote:

I wish the majority of kids leave SWG, and the rest grow up at last, and we can have a good game with each other.

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Message Edited by HeadRoll on 09-08-2005 01:21 PM

Message Edited by HeadRoll on 09-08-2005 01:22 PM

hate to interupt, but could someone answer my question? how much of master rifles will i have to drop in order to get cloak, how many skill points does it take (considering I already have FS done).

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BountyGreg wrote:

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Deathtomelee wrote:

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BountyGreg wrote:
Dinchamion wrote:

1. BHs are the only ones who can loot really good stuff. That drops out all of the melee profs at once.

2. BHs are the most efficient profession right now in the game.

3. BHs reached several goals: they made Jedi nerfed into oblivion (heal, damage), made the hysteria around Jedi (without any good reason, tbh, just because some kids are jealous of what others achieved)

4. BHs dominates PvP... a BH can beat any Jedi with good using of the skills, therefore: a group of Jedi < a group of BHs

(5. BHs everywhere! )
------------------------------------
here my answer:

1. Jedi are the only one able to get a char free and do BH aswell to loot really good stuff....
2. Jedi and more precisely Defenders literally own PvP and PvE...all defenses in PvP, AI in PvE,
Ive never seen a spinning group forming at MOP asking for BH but every day they ask for...defenders or jedi only, strange uh? I think everyone else then you is stupid and they should ask for BH since they are the only efficent profession

3. Jedi reached several goals too, only with cloak a jedi can run through the corvette where it would take at least 3 ppl before, and they don´t even have to fight just run around if it´s the destruction one.
Jedi reached that the economy got messed up since they could solo anything and resell the loots easily making rare stuff comon to everyone..only thinking about AV21 for example, they used to sell for 2 pr 3 millions/piece..now i can get for that price
Jedi also almost got us an all new XP system where the XP would have been divided between all players, unlike now. Yea the community had to stand ground together against SOE because of YOU jedi.
Jedi community became so big that you dont feel like you are between episode4 and 5 but more like in a clone of something lookin like Star Wars universe, where loads of ppl use glowstick to fight and have strange magical powers...force wielder, no, magicians, you are nothing even close to jedi. jedi used to be "Knights" protector of the peac, until they turn to the dark side..today allyou have is rebel jedi spitting some crap at BH cuz they hunt them..dunno what you guys know about Jedi, but as Obi-Wan met Jango he didn´t start to insult him..ah well, yer no jedi so i don´t complain. or maybethe devs should do a chat system where jedi would lose honor and if happens too often, lose jedi...just an idea lol, maybe you´d learn to BEHAVE like a Jedi.

4. BH dominate crap, a BH with no other skills then BH do crap dmg and have like 90 accuracy lol...MCM help to it, but most of the time the only ppl i see PvP are jedi or Jedi slaves..I won´t say more but I know many ppl understand what I mean

5. Jedi everywhere, unlike BH it´s not supposed to be like that...Oo well, it´s a parallel universe...why don´t we have Dagobah and Sith, after all, nothing follows ANY Star Wars rules so who would really care, and don´t tell me there are only 2 Sith..i can strangely kill Sith every day on Dathomir by doing village "quests"

To make it short, you know absolutely nothing about the game or play something different then we do.

Long Live the neutral BHs hunting Jedi and using all bad tricks doing it...kill em all!!!

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well, I knew smugglers who could and did solo vettes as well-it was called fd.

until very recently, two of the most iconic force users (and I use the term user and not jedi because the emperor was not a jedi) did not use a saber. Both the Emperor and Yoda used....you guessed it! POWERS! Not only that, but what is Vader known for doing? Is it:

A. Using his saber to decapitate Imperial officers who have displeased him-

B. Ignite his saber to threaten said officers...OR (drum roll please)

C. Use force choke to dispatch with again said officers.

Seem to remember Luke using choke as well.

Dunno what you guys know about BH, but as Jango was met by obi wan, he didn't start to insult him, nor when Jango defeated the jedi in the arena did he yell PWNED!!! NOR did Boba Fett do the same to Han (I know he is not a jedi, but still it was a hunt)

yer no BH, but infact, you do complain-your entire thread bears witness to that.

Ok, let's dissect this one, shall we? a BH has 121 sp spent if that is the only combat prof he uses. What other level 54 toon out there can fight very well without having more skills? INCLUDING JEDI.....none, that is the short answer....the long answer is that BH is not, has never, and shall never be a stand alone proffession. It is a hybrid proffession by its very nature you moron-you are supposed to take other skills to augment your toon-reread your little book that came with the game-the annoying guy that explains the game even says that Boba fett can use just about every weapon there is, and can stitch himself up if a bounty gets out of hand....

you really should get out more....there are all kinds of temps out pvping-not just jedi....and guess what one of the main temps out there in in a battle is? MBH/MRifleman. All temps have a place in a massive fight-in fact, if you don't have some normal toons helping out and laying cover fire, and taking down the othersides range fighters, you are going to lose.

to make it short, you are the one that knows absolutely nithing about the game, and OBVIOUSLY don't play the same one we do. Also, concidering that jedi have probably been around a little bit longer than other toons, you are making a silly argument......

oh, and in case you are wondering, yes, I was a BH for a very long time, and now my favorite saying comes to mind......I would bet by the way that you are talking that I have more time refreshing the BH terminal in search of a bounty than you do on your account...(and don't let the registered date fool ya-I was a master BH loooong before I bothered with the forums)

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1. FD in corvette was a bug and so as it was used, an exploit...cloak isn't...that's the whole difference

2. You are making a rule out of 3 litle things you saw in the movies, did you even read at least 1 of the books? I guess not, Anakin/Vader was a great saber fighter, but there's nothing more impressive then using "magic" to make people fear you..people are scared of what they don't know...

3. well maybe im no BH..but I could..now tell me you could be a jedi and I'll call the docs

4. if you spend as much SP as a BH does in Jedi, you can kill them easily for a fact I did it...if you can't play your jedi, it's your problem...and yes I can talk about it since i have a jedi too, even if it's no fun at all. A jedi who can manage his force is strong enough to kill a BH..no problem at all, the BH has no dmg output, while the jedi can kill you even if the duel will last for an hour.

5. Well i guess yer not on my server either, but all you see are jedi and jedi slaves...all GCW is rules by jedi and if you don't believe me, just come have a look on Gorath. Oo eya it's a PvP server, so don't come cry if you die every 2 minutes by the hand of jedi...they like to run from SP to SP and kill all the poor souls who are Spec Force for some reason...

5. well my toon is old enoug..been here since release and even before in Beta...so no NO jedi is older then my toon..

7. I don't look at the date you registered, I just see you play with closed eyes...but at the end..Jedi shouldn't even be in this game, and if, then not more then a hand full, like the devs promised us BEFORE release. I still wait for the NPC BHs hunting Jedi btw.

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lol first, I can't even begin to figure how you can go from a total whine and then bash me cause I am using 3 little things I saw in the movies and then go on to talk about the books. I have read every book, story, source book, and most of the comics that has been published, all the way back from splinter of the mind's eye, so yes, I can and will still say that you don't have to use a saber to be a jedi.

Next you try to tell me that you could be a bh as a counter to my sstatement that you are not-aye, you could...but then again, the first time you claimed a bounty by killing your mark you would get thrown in jail, so I assume by saying we are not jedi, you are referring to the game-as was I. Also, while it is semantics-what if I am British? I could very easily be a jedi-much easier than you could be a BH lol-concidering it is a recognised religion on the census.

ok-so lets look at the sp thing, shall we? A jedi that has 121 points invested in jedi skills (and I will count fs since I counted the reqs for BH) means that he has 97 sp used in jedi. BUT..........I bet that he has the rest of his sp spent in other things that are going to give him a bonus or an edge...some doc, some tk, perhaps? Most jedi are not going to have ONLY 121 skills spent in there prof, as surrnederring all the other skills you have is retarded. You still didn't really counter my point though, which was that BH is not meant to be a stnd alone proffession-it is meant to be used in conjunction with another combat proffession-if you don't get that, you are hopeless

I am creating a toon on gorath so that I can see formyself what is so different about your server than mine-and in truth I expect to find the same thing I always find when some idiot uses this excuse-NOTHING IS DIFFERENT-in fact, I bet I will run into people that I know from my server there as well.

played since beta? like I said before-the argument that you use is so shallow and one sided that I am sorry, I don't believe that. I doubt very much that you have played since before patch 9 in fact

I see that you have not only been playing with your eyes closed...but in another room as your computer, with it shutdown, a bag over your head, and earplugs on so that you are in total sensory deprevation. It can be the only explanation for ou.

You would be giving up alot of skill points that would be need to go towards either healing or offensive output so you can simply have cloak. If a Jedi every got you in a position where you weren't able to just cloak again, you would be in trouble.

Message Edited by Penguinzx on 09-08-2005 12:39 AM

Aha, I see now... If Jedi use *insert random Jedi skill here*, take it away from them (I'm referring here to the "Cloak is game-breaking"-threads mainly), if the BHs, it's perfectly acceptable?

Yes, I have a Jedi, and also have a BH, and I just can't understand what makes the BH able to use whatever they want (including exploits), and what makes Jedi so hated, even when only trying to use a skill they have and earned.

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Penguinzx wrote:

Finally, I made the clicky work.

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Dinchamion wrote:
Aha, I see now... If Jedi use *insert random Jedi skill here*, take it away from them (I'm referring here to the "Cloak is game-breaking"-threads mainly), if the BHs, it's perfectly acceptable?

Yes, I have a Jedi, and also have a BH, and I just can't understand what makes the BH able to use whatever they want (including exploits), and what makes Jedi so hated, even when only trying to use a skill they have and earned.

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ROFL! I'm sorry, I try to keep my comments constructive, but I really think you've completely missed the point. BH's wanting to use cloak is a matter of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". All we ever see from jedi that post here is "it's a valid skill, get used to it". I say fine, we'll take this skill and show jedi exactly how annoying it can be. I imagine after a few hybrid BHs start making cloak work for them we're going to see Jedi start calling for a nerf on their own abilities.

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Well, yes, I don't see the point hating a profession for something, and then just use the very same thing for my very own profession... that's my fault.

Whatever. I also don't see the point in BHs with cloak, because what you can win with it? You can get close without they knowing you are there. So? After starting the combat, your cloak will break. For regen? Since Jedi is a melee profession, I don't see to much chance you can get away 20m from everything, maybe with root. (Not mentioning the fact that you can't use Force if you have armor or non-ls weapon equipped)

My point mainly was, that I'm reading these forums, and all I can see is "Nerf teh Jedi", and threads which stating mainly all Jedi skills game-breaking. And I just can't see why BHs can do anything. Plain and simple.

I didn't mean to trolling, I just get sick of some people who would have to grow up, before playing a game like this. If a Jedi uses it, it's game-breaking and exploit, if a BH - of, it's tactics.