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Thread: Jedi Win/Loss Records: From the Jedi Forum

Anaalin
Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:51 pm
#40






dubiousmastax wrote:
If I arm wrestle a guy who is 1.5x stronger than me, how often can I expect to win? thats right, never





Not true.


As in BH vs Jedi fights, sometimes skill will overcome sheer power.


Some of you guys really need to get out more.


For example...


Who do you think could do more damage on a kick? Bruce Lee in his liltte 5'4" frame, or Ahnold back in his heyday? Pretty sure Ahnold was stronger. But I would rather he kick me than good ol' Bruce.


Power does not automatically equal a win.





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Sundal
Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:51 pm
#41

The stats would be a bit more convincing if there were more information. 10 guys or so can barely speak for the population.Add in the fact that Jedi_Frank probably isnt going to post his 17-11 record just to look foolish.
Jacella
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:16 am
#42






Spynet-Informant wrote:





KilferfUhn wrote:

I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?


Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.


I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.


Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)



1.5x is a 30% increase I do believe.


He should win 2/3 Fights.



Those stats indicate that Jedi as a whole are winning far more than 2 of 3 fights, which indicates a greater than 1.5x power disparity across the board.


(I'm not just talking about you, but the game as a whole)








Wrong. What it means is each mission there is a BH = 1, a Jedi that = 1.5. This means that, barring the jedi sucking and/or the BH beling truely awesome, that the outcome of a 1 on 1 hunt should always be the jedi winning. In order for the BH to win, he would have to bring half of another BH to end up with 50-50 odds. If there were 2 BH's, all things being equal, the Bounty Hunter team would win every time.


This is why the current system DOES NOT WORK. And the point of my thread.







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KilferfUhn
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:18 am
#43


Oh look, you brought friends to help!


Hahhaha!


BTW: I'm not going to read this thread anymore. So...cmn?

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:26 am
#44






Spynet-Informant wrote:






KilferfUhn wrote:

From a non-jedi here, i'd suggest not posting your stats anymore. It's quite clear you understand how to play your template to a T, but you make others believe, as our dear OP here as shown, that you're WAY overpowered. That's not skill man, it's all template!






If he could have the same "skill" with a ranged template instead of a Jedi template, I'd be more impressed. Especially if that was his kill ratio vs Jedi.


That would be skill. (and millions and millionsinvested in gear)


Troll and flame all you want KilferfUhn... I was a Correspondent, and have seen the Devs talking about this in the Corr. Forum. Jedi are DESIGNED to be more powerful than non-Jedi. Hence, the extra work to unlock, and the fact that we can hunt them.


You trying to pretend that a full template non-Jedi = Full template Jedi is a joke.






Blue Glowie name please.



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Spynet-Informant
Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:52 am
#45






Sundal wrote:

The stats would be a bit more convincing if there were more information. 10 guys or so can barely speak for the population.Add in the fact that Jedi_Frank probably isnt going to post his 17-11 record just to look foolish.




Agreed. I still found the records impressive. 30-1 Win ratios? I also tend to think many of the BH victories are often not accomplished vs full template Jedi. It's far from scientific... just, interesting. Especially in light of how often the Jedi boards are calling for nerfs on whichever profession of the month is successful against some of the Jedi templates. If those records are even possible, no non-Jedi profession needs a nerfing of any kind.
Nathanielstarr
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:10 pm
#46






Etyrnal wrote:

The problem with threads like these is that what bounty hunter is going to say they truely are 2 wins and 35 losses. No they say I have 2 kills. What Jedi is going to admit being owned 30 times by Bounty Hunters? You really can not judge this by what people report on the forums.


For the record I responded to that thread but my record of 1 win and 1 lose is not on there. Of course for the first 5 months that I had Jedi I did not see a BH then saw both just after the CU and then have not seen one since June.







If you look through this board you will see alot of posts that say "I just cannot beat jedi"...because Jedi still are stronger than bounty hunters and without excellent equipment and some skill you will not win very often.
NoStyleGuy
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:38 pm
#47

nobodys gonna come out and say "i am 1 - 1000 vs BH"



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Jarred-infinity
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:00 pm
#48








Spynet-Informant wrote:


I was a Correspondent







What happened to your blue glowie status? Just curious.
Checobacca
Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:13 pm
#49

haha - do you honestly think that jedi are 1.5 times better than non jedi? do you think these people are telling the truth? I gurantee that it is about 60-40 in favor of jedi at best and they killed respec bhs. most bhs have the typical mcm/mbh temp which is far superior to that of a jedi




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Nathanielstarr
Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:57 pm
#50






Checobacca wrote:

haha - do you honestly think that jedi are 1.5 times better than non jedi? do you think these people are telling the truth? I gurantee that it is about 60-40 in favor of jedi at best and they killed respec bhs. most bhs have the typical mcm/mbh temp which is far superior to that of a jedi




I've seen some jedi kill 3 other full template jedi all at once in a fair fight. I'd say that was greater than 1.5 a regular template. He has a high damage saber and that's how he did it. Id say some jedi are 1.5 and some are greater than that and some are not.
Etyrnal
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:15 pm
#51

To be honest with you Ihave been just running and logging if I think a BH is after me. I think the whole thing is completely unbalanced at the moment because Bounty Hunters can now get triple capped weapons (spammng specials that the CU was supposed to get rid of), 8100 enegry armor thats 75% armorbreak sliced with all the new loot flying about but Jedi can not get the one piece of loot that they depend on to survive against Bounty Hunters (decent pearls and crystals). I really feel for any Jedi that has unlocked in the past few months. how would Bounty Hunters respond if they found out their HCS could cap at 960 damage but the resources and loot available in the game could only let them get a HCS of 600. Totally lame on the Devs part.



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Jarred-infinity
Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:09 am
#52






Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





Spynet-Informant wrote:






KilferfUhn wrote:

From a non-jedi here, i'd suggest not posting your stats anymore. It's quite clear you understand how to play your template to a T, but you make others believe, as our dear OP here as shown, that you're WAY overpowered. That's not skill man, it's all template!






If he could have the same "skill" with a ranged template instead of a Jedi template, I'd be more impressed. Especially if that was his kill ratio vs Jedi.


That would be skill. (and millions and millionsinvested in gear)


Troll and flame all you want KilferfUhn... I was a Correspondent, and have seen the Devs talking about this in the Corr. Forum. Jedi are DESIGNED to be more powerful than non-Jedi. Hence, the extra work to unlock, and the fact that we can hunt them.


You trying to pretend that a full template non-Jedi = Full template Jedi is a joke.






Blue Glowie name please.






I asked the same thing but noticed no reply so I checked the tracker and a few posts are signed Auraboron.


I guess now we know what happened to the blue glowie status.


Message Edited by Jarred-infinity on 09-13-2005 01:09 PM

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