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Thread: Jedi Win/Loss Records: From the Jedi Forum
Aeschyl2 wrote:
Spynet-Informant wrote:
Here's an interesting thread:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1197016&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Jedi Beats BH Jedi dies
wintersNight 14 1
h4rr0w20 1
Nastypope5 1
allproucando 24 0
SugarBuzz110 0
jonaga 20 0
MasterGettingOnTerms 17 0
COLDFUSION11 32 2
Ameno33 0
MrDoppa 2 0
TOTALS177 5
Total Fights182
Win Percentage97%
Loss Percentage3%
97% Win Percentage?
1.5x more poerful my arse...
Message Edited by Spynet-Informant on 09-08-2005 02:01 PM
let's see - if you actually know what % means....1.5% means that a jedi is ALWAYS 1.5% better than a BH
hence - the BH should ALWAYS lose to a jedi - because 1.5 IS ALWAYS bigger than 1
so ANY BH victory is 1 step towards proving the 1.5% stat as false
i'm a BH (and a very successful one at that) - so watch what you say in response
OMG go get KD bug or something. 
Sure... but my 5 Jedi get to be at least Defender 3/3/3/0, with Force Infusion, and Force Aura. Maybe even Force Armor for fun.
Pday wrote:
jesus just go and line up 5 jedi vs 5 melee/docs or 5 non powers jedi vs 5 bhs in 8k armro break sliced recon with cm heals, if they let people as ignorant as you become correspondents that sorta explains alot.
Spynet-Informant wrote:
Sure... but my 5 Jedi get to be at least Defender 3/3/3/0, with Force Infusion, and Force Aura. Maybe even Force Armor for fun.
Pday wrote:
jesus just go and line up 5 jedi vs 5 melee/docs or 5 non powers jedi vs 5 bhs in 8k armro break sliced recon with cm heals, if they let people as ignorant as you become correspondents that sorta explains alot.
Your 5 BHs, even with Pyro, will land 1 in 6 shots, and those shots when they do land (assuming you have max damage weapons) will deal around 250pts which will easily be healed by infusion with no additional Force spent. They will take the BHs all out one by one, and barely even take a scratch.
Your 5 Melee/Docs will be dropped by 5 Master Sabers who will root, and spam KD until you get bugged and can't stand up.
I've been fighting Jedi in the GCW since the first one showed up on Bria. Call me ignorant if it makes you feel important, but it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.
if a bh didnt stand a chance vs anyone with 3-3-3-0 def how come the easiest jedi to kill is a m.ls/m.def ? its pretty clear to most of us that you are either
1. unskilled
2. dont have a clue
Go on bloodfin and watch omnirai, or come to scylla and watch talason or error message for the melee/doc temps and shadowKB and Aanu for the bhs and maybe you would have a clue.
Spynet-Informant wrote:
Here's an interesting thread:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1197016&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Jedi Beats BH Jedi dies
wintersNight 14 1
h4rr0w20 1
Nastypope5 1
allproucando 24 0
SugarBuzz110 0
jonaga 20 0
MasterGettingOnTerms 173
COLDFUSION11 32 2
Ameno33 0
MrDoppa 2 0
TOTALS177 5
Total Fights182
Win Percentage97%
Loss Percentage3%
97% Win Percentage?
1.5x more poerful my arse...
Message Edited by Spynet-Informant on 09-08-2005 02:01 PM
Pday wrote:
if a bh didnt stand a chance vs anyone with 3-3-3-0 def how come the easiest jedi to kill is a m.ls/m.def ? its pretty clear to most of us that you are either
1. unskilled
2. dont have a clue
Go on bloodfin and watch omnirai, or come to scylla and watch talason or error message for the melee/doc temps and shadowKB and Aanu for the bhs and maybe you would have a clue.
Spynet-Informant wrote:
Here's an interesting thread:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1197016&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Jedi Beats BH Jedi dies
wintersNight 14 1
h4rr0w20 1
Nastypope5 1
allproucando 24 0
SugarBuzz110 0
jonaga 20 0
MasterGettingOnTerms 17 0
COLDFUSION11 32 2
Ameno33 0
MrDoppa 2 0
TOTALS177 5
Total Fights182
Win Percentage97%
Loss Percentage3%
97% Win Percentage?
1.5x more poerful my arse...
Message Edited by Spynet-Informant on 09-08-2005 02:01 PM
i died to one bh but not because he was good but because he found me at the right time, i had no more than 10% force.however ive lost to more than just one. if i have to leave the fight then i think you can call that a victory on your part. as far as deaths only one has killed me.
as for my bh, i havent fought a jedisince like right after the cu but it was like 50/50 and i never was flat-out owned.
Spynet-Informant wrote:
KilferfUhn wrote:
I'm not sure what the point is exactly, that jediARE more than1.5 times powerful?
Those stats mean squat to me. Seriously.
I don't own a jedi, but i do own 85% of the full templates i encounter.
Jonaga is on my server i think, i'll ask him for a duel tonight. (We're both rebs, i don't hunt same faction yadda yadda, i'm sure he'd consent to one)
1.5x is a 30% increase I do believe.
He should win 2/3 Fights.
Those stats indicate that Jedi as a whole are winning far more than 2 of 3 fights, which indicates a greater than 1.5x power disparity across the board.
(I'm not just talking about you, but the game as a whole)
1.5x = 150% which is a 50% increase, although that 50% increase represents 33% of the new total.
If you have two race cars and one is 50% faster than the other... it should take a mistake or a breakdown for the slower car to win. The same would apply for two powerlifters where one is 50% stronger than the other. So, it is clear to see that the odds are stacked very heavily in favor of the jedi if all other factors were always even.
But, if you had a football team that won 50% more games in the regular season, they could still lose to a weaker team during the playoffs. That's because there are more variables, and they can potentially offset that huge advantage... although it would be an upset.
Bounty hunters have to shift the odds and use surprise and tactics in order to win. That makes it a challenge, and as much strategy as power. That makes it fun when you win as a bounty hunter. It can also be somewhatshocking for a jedi to get soundly beaten by a bounty hunter if that has never happened to them before.
The problem with threads like these is that what bounty hunter is going to say they truely are 2 wins and 35 losses. No they say I have 2 kills. What Jedi is going to admit being owned 30 times by Bounty Hunters? You really can not judge this by what people report on the forums.
For the record I responded to that thread but my record of 1 win and 1 lose is not on there. Of course for the first 5 months that I had Jedi I did not see a BH then saw both just after the CU and then have not seen one since June.
Etyrnal wrote:
For the record I responded to that thread but my record of 1 win and 1 lose is not on there. Of course for the first 5 months that I had Jedi I did not see a BH then saw both just after the CU and then have not seen one since June.
That's true, but in this case, it is backed by every Jedi he killed on the server in our Galaxy Forum.
Spynet-Informant wrote:
A player can fight a Jedi 20 times, lose, win once, and screen shot the one win.
That's even less conclusive evidence.
GCW Forum has been alight for a long time with houw unbalanced completed templated Jedi are. Whereas, the BH forum largely deals with BH hunting Jedi.. regardless of their level of template completion.
Just thought their posted stats were interesting.