Bounty Hunter Archive

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Cada_Kai wrote:

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RAMBOW wrote:

Im just reposting what I had posted in another thread about 2 weeks ago... needless to say if these terminal changes go live this game will loose atleast 1 long time BH. I will not hunt in a dumbed down version of BH.

Sorry in advance if reading this post you think im being a bit harsh... But I have been a BH for a long time and I dont want to see the professions I love to get dulled down because of the jedi constent whining about us killing them.

On my server, Chilastra, We have probably some of the best Bounty Hunters in the game... I dont say that lightly either. Im not talking about kill counts or fighting ability, Im talking about the actual "hunting". We have a long history of keeping tabs on all jedi on the server. It started with a list of jedi names started way back when jedi first unlocked... We had the first ever completed jedi mission on our server with some of the foundations for the BH system we have developed in place.

Recently most of these Bounty Hunters were united under 1 PA . While in this guild and watching us work together you really get a feel for what I always though BH should be. One of our newer more unexperienced members would ask about a certain jedi, and the vets would be able to tell him... Where the jedi hunts, what PA he is in, what faction, where his houses are that he might run to ect ect ect.... Vital Information for a true BH.

The fact is we do have these lists... We know everything we can about hundreds of jedi on our server. We have the Waypoints of there houses, cities, ect in our datapads.

If you take away our right to see thier names at the terminal, you will make us nothing but nameless waypoint chasers. Even if you give us names when we get the probe droid back.. it isnt the same at all.

The jedi say its unfair that BHs can pick and choose padawans and "bottom feed" once again, It seems to me the Jedi are blaming US for them being on the terms. Im all for giving them a Master/Aprentice system or perhaps no Visablity for groups ect.... Personally I like to hunt padawans because they still have something to loose. (now all the jedi will say im just in it to grief another player ect). What fun is jedi if you have nothing to loose? What fun is BHing against a mark that has nothing to loose? That would just be normal PvP, which I can find alot more of just by joining a group and going SF.

Please dont ruin the Bounty Hunter system by making us nothing but waypoint chasers.

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If BHs had not been Ganking Padawans in groups of 3-5, and Picking on low level padawans constantly then this fix would not have even been proposed by the devs.

Blame your Bounty hunter brothers for this change, not the Jedi they were ganking.

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Auraboron wrote:

Tanks is on a sailboat enjoying his vacation, so I'm helping out.

Please channel all reactions to this thread such that there is a focused discussion from which to pass feedback on to the Dev team.

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I like the fact that Bounty Payouts will no longer indicate the level of a Jedi. It makes great RP sense. Jedi has been spotted, no idea of skill or anything, just spotted. It also makes sense to cut down on the bottom feeding.

I do like the No Name change to BH missions as well just so the griefing of an individual can no longer happen between BH and Jedi. Especially since a Jedi's name no longer clears from the terms after a BH death. Although, it does make absolutely no sense

I would like to add a disclaimer to the No Name Bounties: Fix seekers to report not only where a Jedi is on Kashyyyk, but fix it so that the instance they are in is found as well!

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Penguinzx wrote:

This whole idea seems like a fix for a percieved problem that doesn't really exist. The only possible reason I can see for the implementation of this is to prevent one BH from taking the same jedi's mission over and over again. While I imagine this has been known to happen, I would also imagine that it is very infrequent, and is only the work of someone that enjoys griefing in general. It is not the sort of problem that should be attributed to the BH system as a whole.

All they need to do to prevent this is establish guidelines for the profession. Just say, you can't hunt the same jedi more than once or twice a day, or maybe 3 times over the course of a week. Anymore and it will be considered griefing and be a bannable offence. Deal with the griefers by themselves.The majority of BH players don't operate this way, so why should we all be handi-capped because a few people can't behave properly?

I don't think I quite understand how this sort of system would operate anyway. If you aren't given a target name at all, I don't see how you can possibly hunt your mark. You're just supposed to go where they BH droids sends you and tab throught he targets until you find your mark? How am I supposed to know anything about my mark? I won't know what he's worth, I won't be able to check up on him and see what his skills are, I won't even know if he's a friend of mine or a guildmate until I'm standing next to him. Basically I won't be able to be a BH.

If they just make it so you don't know his name until after you take the mission, all this does is add one extra step in an already tedious process. So now instead of just hitting refresh and view details, I have to accept the mission, check the name, cancel the mission, refresh, accept, check, cancel, refresh, etc. It will also make hunting on kashyyyk impossible. Finally, while an exceptional BH could probably solo a mediocre jedi knight, solo hunting of complete template jedi is simply not practical. If we can't group at all, then I doubt that thejedi knights that enjoy having BHs come for them will ever see one again, except for the occassional suicidal BH.

Basically, this idea presents far more problems than it solves. It makes the BH profession completely unmanageable for everyone, all for the sake of preventing a few jedi from being griefed by a few juvenile BHs that can't behave themselves.

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Message Edited by Cochba on 07-05-2005 01:29 PM

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wildcard1973 wrote:

Removal of names is kinda good since it prevents the deliberitae greifing of one particular Jedi, and eliminates the ability for Jedi to claim they're being greifed by one BH since mission is luck of the draw.

Not sure on payout removal..does this mean Jedi are now all worth the same, or you won't know how much your getting paid until you complete the mission?

And faction indicators are a must with name removal, to prevent you from accidentally hunting same faction or even guild Jedi.

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Basically this change is a game breaker.

As a role-player, I find it ridiculous that I do not know who my mark is. Aside from the fact that we talk to terminals to get missions, not some shady NPC hiding in the back of a cantina, its stupid not to know the name of the mark.

Me: "So you want me to kill this jedi?"

Bounty Hunter Syndicate Rep (BHSR): "Yes."

Me: "Ok, what did he do?"

BHSR: "He killed a family while they were eating dinner."

Me: "Those witches!! Who is the scum?"

BHSR: "We don't know who it is, good luck finding him though."

Me: "Double You Tee Eff?!?!? You want me to kill someone, but you don't know who?"

BHSR: "Correct, now take the job and like it."

I think the idea has the potentially to be implemented incredibly, amazingly poorly. There are some genuine concerns that simply must be addressed for the system to work in an "efficient" manner.

I've posted my ideas in the following thread:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=449591

Message Edited by Euwou on 07-05-2005 11:36 AM

Message Edited by Cassith on 07-05-2005 09:36 PM

If the names are shown after talkign to our spynet opp then this is fin really.

However, what is the good of a spynet guy whp can give me a fraggin bipo sig without giving us our marks name? Not to know who our mark is rediclious. No one will hunt blindly. I am a decient bh, 45 kills. I try to hunt 150k+ marks, but occasionally do roust a 100k grinder that is showing off. these changes are again hampring a profession that has been jacked up more then any other.

That was aimed at Digital BTW my fault for not quoting.

Message Edited by Eicy on 07-05-2005 11:38 AM

I guess I'd like to know the reasons for this change and how exactly it's going to be implemented. If we are given the names soon after getting the mission, I can deal with it. The terms should also list online status and faction. As a neutral BH, I don't care about faction, but it should be available for those that choose a faction.

I have a personal policy of not hunting the same jedi for a set period of time. I'm guessing that I won't be able to do this anymore. I've also changed my template so that I can go after higher level marks and not 'pick on' the lower level paddies. I assume I will no longer do this either.

The biggest problem I have with this change is the even bigger advantage it creates for the Trail grinders. Now we will not be able to use droids or PC informants to hunt on the Wookie planet.