Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi just come down to their saber damage.
QFE
HyprHypo wrote:
JustAClown wrote:
Nullified wrote:
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Who cares if my weapon hits for 1300 max and has 1200 dps if, against a full fledged mdef/mls it's cut down to meager 300-400 most of the time
Not every Jedi is a MLD/Mdef, so your argument about this is void. What about the Jedi that have no defender or just 1 branch? Hell, I only know 1 Mdef in my guild that has a bunch of jedi in it.
Why does a post CU jedi get stuck with a saber that does 300 - 400 dmg, yet a post CU MBH/MRM/CM 4000 get a weapon that does 650 - 1200? The BH can OUTHEAL the jedi. When the BH heals, it does not subtract from several pools like a jedi heal does. The BH can stay out of the 5m (or 32m) range of the Jedi if they so choose. The BH can get nice 8100 energy resist armor, slice it for 75% armor break reduction. What's the jedi get? Nothing unless they choose to put get MDef, which is the same as a BH wearing the mentioned armor, yet doesn't cost the BH almost 1/2 his skill points to get.
Jedi is so far underpowered, it's a shame. I've become bored with hunting them, cause most of them, full template or not, just run away now. Normally only the Mls/Mdef stick around to fight.
I would suck just as bad if I dabbled incorrectly. If a Jedi dabbles correctly he is a machine. BHs are forced to dabble a certain way and so is a Jedi. Tell your friends to pick a different template
Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 09-14-2005 02:43 PM
Hey since you guys say it maybe they will let us loot what we need make good sabers again. 
Oh my god looked at the Dmg on that rifle and people have the nerve to say saber are not underpowered!
Message Edited by Nastypope on 09-14-2005 12:13 AM
Message Edited by Nastypope on 09-14-2005 12:33 AM
100% correct decent PRE CU Sabres hit for 700 (Not so easy)
Decent Post CU Sabres hit for 3-400 (Easy Kill)
Although there are some differences in tactics between jedi, I think it makes little difference 95% comes down to their sabres.
Nisdain wrote:
Why do people think that pre-CU sabers are better then post?
I could craft a post one with much higher damage but higher SAC then one or craft one with similar stats to the converted ones.
And if you think preCU jedi's pearls are going to magically disappear you're smoking something.
Its the pearls that are inside the pre-CU that makes the difference, not the base stats.
Since Premium and Flawless pearls have not dropped since the CU, the post-CU sabers suck in comparison. Even if a jedi was lucky enough to find a untuned premium/flawless and spend the 35+M creds to buy it, no guarantee the tune will be perfect.
Stecoli wrote:
sounds like u got
OWNED
Only if you can forward this message to the 6 jedi that I whipped last night and underline it for the 3 that died. The difference is I didn't try and come up with a lame excuse like "I was lagging" I analyzed the fight and figured out what was different. If I get this Jedi's mission again I'll be more careful,I was getting a little over confident and I took him on straight up and I shouldn't have. I'm not going to whine I'm looking for discussion and possibly advice. But also I'm changing some of my tactics for future encounters.
Digitalalchemyzt wrote:
Hmm...good subject but again, why is it that every bounty hunter believes hes taking out a full temp all the time. you guys do know that a cl 80 does NOT mean full temp. u can tell by the jedis specials. lol, so now u get new respec bhs thinking they are taking out full temps and they are not
WellI can tell by the payout 225k everytime and the fact that I haven'tkilled a non full template in about the last 30 successful bounties. With xp being so easy 90% ofJediare full templates now and when their saber throw does about 1000 damage before armor that also kinda clues youin.
JustAClown wrote:
Nullified wrote:
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Who cares if my weapon hits for 1300 max and has 1200 dps if, against a full fledged mdef/mls it's cut down to meager 300-400 most of the time
Not every Jedi is a MLD/Mdef, so your argument about this is void. What about the Jedi that have no defender or just 1 branch? Hell, I only know 1 Mdef in my guild that has a bunch of jedi in it.
Why does a post CU jedi get stuck with a saber that does 300 - 400 dmg, yet a post CU MBH/MRM/CM 4000 get a weapon that does 650 - 1200? The BH can OUTHEAL the jedi. When the BH heals, it does not subtract from several pools like a jedi heal does. The BH can stay out of the 5m (or 32m) range of the Jedi if they so choose. The BH can get nice 8100 energy resist armor, slice it for 75% armor break reduction. What's the jedi get? Nothing unless they choose to put get MDef, which is the same as a BH wearing the mentioned armor, yet doesn't cost the BH almost 1/2 his skill points to get.
Jedi is so far underpowered, it's a shame. I've become bored with hunting them, cause most of them, full template or not, just run away now. Normally only the Mls/Mdef stick around to fight.
Well said.
I've parked my Jedi (mls/me/healer 4040) for a while, since it's no fun to play anymore. When I do play, and if I get engaged, I statis and FR3 for the win.
get alot of hate tells, but I live, so it's a win.
Whacked wrote:
Nisdain wrote:
Why do people think that pre-CU sabers are better then post?
I could craft a post one with much higher damage but higher SAC then one or craft one with similar stats to the converted ones.
And if you think preCU jedi's pearls are going to magically disappear you're smoking something.
Its the pearls that are inside the pre-CU that makes the difference, not the base stats.
Since Premium and Flawless pearls have not dropped since the CU, the post-CU sabers suck in comparison. Even if a jedi was lucky enough to find a untuned premium/flawless and spend the 35+M creds to buy it, no guarantee the tune will be perfect.
That was my point really, the people that claiming pre CU sabers are just gonna be changed are just smoking something. They aren't going to be changing someones already tuned pearls I can almost guarentee you.
I've parked my Jedi (mls/me/healer 4040) for a while, since it's no fun to play anymore. When I do play, and if I get engaged, I statis and FR3 for the win.
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Boohoo... don't gain visibility or create a template which is able to fight.
It's that simple.
StoneRook1 wrote:
I've parked my Jedi (mls/me/healer 4040) for a while, since it's no fun to play anymore. When I do play, and if I get engaged, I statis and FR3 for the win.
alphawolf100 wrote:
This Forum is littered with BH's talking about how many Full templates they've slaughtered. Even the Original poster here said he won 6 fights and only lost 1 against all full templates. (3 Runaways means that he was on the verge of victory) Now does a single BH who has a 6:1 Win loss ratio against FULL TEMPLATE jedi not say something about the current state of the weapon of a template that is supposidly 1.5x stronger then any other fully templated Combat class character.
No it really means majority of these guys have Jedi as their alts. Why on earth would they come here and scream, OMG JEDI are overpowered, I am 0-90 against them and risk their main toon to get nerfed?