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GetSmart wrote:
Epono..Doesnt Master Defenders skills make up for the lack of of getting MLS box. Defender gets ranged defs,melee defs. Would that not of set getting the extra block from master LS?
Master Defender is good, better then most people would have you believe, however, ittruly shines when paired up with Master Lightsaber. For one thing, the 85% block at Master Saber cannot be lowered, an intimidateor stun will lower your ranged and melee defenses however. Melee and Ranged defenses work against your opponents accuracy, Master Saber's block does not, it is a set amount regardless. Secondly, as was also pointed out, Jedi toughness does not work versus Lightsaber at all.
When I first began looking at skills after Patch 9, I initially planed to go Master Saber, Master Defender, and healer 40004. However, I had concerns about the lack of force run and channel. I also wanted a bit more defense versus melee then your average build. Which brought me to the build I suggested earlier. Master Saber, Defender 4004, Healer 4004, and Enhancer 2003. the two tiers of Defender (when combined with MLS) would be give me 64.4% Passive Dmg Reduction (However, only 55% Versus Saber)
However, it soon became apparent that Melee Defense, while very useful in PvE has very very little effect in PvP. The state defenses also appear to not work at all, or at the very least barely enough to notice. Keepingthetwotiersof Defendersoleyfortheadditional toughness at this point no longer seemed a wise use of skill points as it is only 9.4% additional Dmg Reduction (which again does not work against Saber)
At this point I dropped Defender entirely.
That's my own personal journey, but at any rate, Defender at master has its uses, no doubt, but it is best when used with Master Lightsaber, andMaster Defender'sdefenses are in no way shape or form superior or even equal to the defenses and advantages that MLS brings.
Simply put without Master Lightsaber, you are going to have less toughness, inferior weapons, inferior speed, inferior accuracy, and inferior damage versus almost every Jedi you will fight . You will also be considerably easier to kill by regular professions, whether they be melee or ranged.
If you are absoloutely hell bent on getting Master Defender, then go Master Saber/Master Defender 4004. The lack of force run and channel will be a problem at times, but you will shine in PvE and be a worthy opponent in PvP.
Message Edited by Epono on 01-08-2005 09:39 AM
GetSmart wrote:
Most of the fighting Jedi does is against non jedi...so why not take melee and ranged defs of that skill? I dont understand how some peolpe say they dont work at all and others say the work fine...we need 2 get our act together people..
There's some great info regarding Defender in this thread as well...which was posted by you
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=679028#M679028
GetSmart wrote:
Most of the fighting Jedi does is against non jedi...so why not take melee and ranged defs of that skill? I dont understand how some peolpe say they dont work at all and others say the work fine...we need 2 get our act together people..
No one is saying that ranged and melee defense don't work, what people are saying is that they are far more effective in PvE then they are in PvP.
Furthermore, if you are such a fan of ranged defense, why on earth are you even contemplating not mastering lightsaber to begin with?