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Thread: I'm so sick of this cool down cheat

cid666
Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:54 pm
#40






mickolakis wrote:





cid666 wrote:

If Cheating is allowed, and your opponent is cheating, would you not cheat equally to even the playing field?


--cid666





nope





Why the hell not?


--cid666






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Nathanielstarr
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:56 pm
#41






Ulrek_Oden wrote:





xakia wrote:

At first...I thought this was an exploit as well....


but after further testing my own skills....I learned I could effectively do the same thing.


Its not an exploit...its about learning the speed of your timers. Different skills have different timers. Combine a few skills in the right combo and you can pull off a HAHRUUKEN!


Learn to play the game at:

http://www.mofunzone.com/online_games/street_fighter_flash.shtml







The exploit is being able to spam the SAME attack over and over again.... not cycling thru different attacks




I cycle through using adv quickdraw and get accused of exploiting. But if you look at my timestamped, detailed combat log the attacks don't repeat and they aren't every second more like every other.
Calel_Haven
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:03 pm
#42

Jedi SPEED is broken


FACT


The so called CHEAT is a workaround the broken speed


FACT


When they fix Jedi Speed, THEN and ONLY then should you complain.






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Calel_Haven
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:14 pm
#43






Nathanielstarr wrote:





Calel_Haven wrote:

Jedi SPEED is broken


FACT


The so called CHEAT is a workaround the broken speed


FACT


When they fix Jedi Speed, THEN and ONLY then should you complain.








The last is not a fact. We can and should complain about any cheat. Do Jedi really feel that they should be able to hit with their most powerful attacks over and over again every second? I've been spammed with their hardest hit before and there is really no way to live through it.

I'm really in the dark about how Jedi speed is broken and what it's supposed to do and how it's not doing what it's supposed to do. What speed should they be hitting at and with what attacks?





yea have to give you that one. I too have no clue other than what I read, but it's bad news. Tell you what, remove this ability to spam the attacks, restore speed to how it should be and we all go about our lives in harmony.



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mickolakis
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:39 pm
#44






cid666 wrote:






mickolakis wrote:





cid666 wrote:

If Cheating is allowed, and your opponent is cheating, would you not cheat equally to even the playing field?


--cid666





nope





Why the hell not?


--cid666






Not my bag


just coz you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD. if somebody needs to cheat to get by in the game good luck to 'em, I like to play it how it was meant to be played.


i like shopping for good armour, weapons and SEAs to build my toon up and trying out new tactics. i don't want some macro that makes me 1337, where's the fun in that?




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dentorious
Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:32 am
#45






bmill wrote:

Eye for an eye rationale doens't seem appropriate to this. While revenge is a natural emotion, and losing to a cheater is not only annoying, it's wrong... still... I disengage from fights where people use these types of tactics.





My stance has nothing to do with revenge. it mearly has to do with turning the tables on the cheater. So far I have yet to use any of the macros in PvP. However if I' m going aginst an opponent who's hitting me for 800 every second I WILL pop a macro and hit him right back for 900 every second. There fore I'm effectly taking away any advantage the opponent had.


If that's not a good enough solution for those who "never ever cheat or exploit" you may as well stop playing right now. This bug/exploit has been around for quite some time, and for the time being the devs and CSR's have made it quite clear that they either can't or won't do anything about it.





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dyby
Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:38 am
#46

I thought that was meant since some post from a dev i remember then saying that it will be capped at 1 second, since some of the pre-cu jedi and other profs where hitting more then once a second. I may be wrong but i do not think so. Also if they are hitting you with power attack in less then 6 seconds then yes they are cheating but on the other issue i do not think so much but like i said if i am wrong ok.



Bah stupid nge, but what you gonig to do about it. well i am back and looking to kill some rebs.

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Armengar7
Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:50 am
#47

wowguys u whine like litlte girls, wait till LS speed is fixed, i know personally no BH will stand a bloddy chance i dotn care what temp casue my attack speed will go from 3.05 to 1.17 so if u think u got it bad and its some sort of gmae breaking thing wait till we get FIXED you cry baby's



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xakia
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:01 am
#48

Sounds like someone got his azz handed to him a few too many times.



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Arcadias
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:09 am
#49






Death-to-false-metal wrote:

Never had the "pleasure" of coming across this yet, but you seem to have a point that nothing is being done about it. Easiest way to sort it would be to remove all macro's from the game (tough luck on lazy people and on the entertainers, but I've always been ata loss why people subscribe to let there toon stand AFK - macro's suck, end of story).


I've beaten every BH that has come for me with ease, and not had a fight last over a few minutes and have never had to resort to exploiting or cheating like those using the timers (same with hunting Jedi - proud to say my side of every fight is totally fair). If they are found doing it, they should not be banned, but have their whole profession wiped


Just my 2 credits








Nahh, that wouldnt be good for me.

I have to use heal-self macros and stuff. (and I loved my /tellpet macros as CH)

But the macros ingame are way too powerful at the moment though.

Some limits would be nice.


(and on a sidenote: I just love AFK-Spam. Because I can /addignore player but I cant /addignore barker-droids )




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Talfalas
Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:21 pm
#50

It is the cheaters that through the use of a macro that BREAKS the mechanic of the cool down timers that ruin this game. The last mission I took I was hit with saber body hit over and over -- there was no skill involved in this there was no thinking, there was only a person who felt he needed to do this to win. The use of these exploit macros is so wide spread it is discusting.
Reading what is written here about picking and choseing shots is simple people who want soley to take the other side . I know my skills and timers , I know the foods I can use and the inherent filling and timers, but when as a BH using 4000 CM and I cant heal fast enough useing 4 diferent heals and ruby bile, my armor is 7100 energy and armor break 75% sliced, my def's are maxed.

So all of the detractors can screw off, I am sick of the cheaters, not the people who know their proffession and can kill me. Thaat is the game of competition and I will be the first to congrat a person who beats me.



No offense, but LOL. Ever hear of the Duelstance macro?

Basically repeats dueliststance.

LOL, besides that, aren't they SUPPOSED to try to win, using every method?

I MISS SPAMMING ATTACKS LOL

Used to read TIME while grinding...



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Talfalas
Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:24 pm
#51





Lear77 wrote:





Kreepy wrote:

This is so sickening -- I get hit with body hit or head hit every second


Why does this game even exist when the idiots at SOE cant fix game breaking F'n issues. As far as I'm concerned I just pulled my last mission.

I see the blind eye turned towards all of these cheats and exploits as an insult to the players that actually want to play the game. As my final statement they can send this game so deep the sun will never hit it again


Kreepy


Ps: Every hunter on every server should start posting lists of these cheaters until we all get banned






Perhaps if you learned the ins and outs of your chosen profession instead of immediately crying exploit you would realize that you can do the exact same thing. If you put half the effort into learning how to be a BH as you did into writing your rant then maybe you could find the solution. It's out there.... I've seen it, furthermore I have used it. Learn the game before you make yourself look more foolish.


Lear



It really is a known issue. People can learn their profession all the want, but if the opponent is "cheating" then there is a decision to make: A.) Cheat back, since the other did it or B.) Not cheat, and report it both to the CSRs and here.


I know how to do the cool down timer bypass with my BH character, but I choose not to because I feel that it's an exploit. It comes down to personal preference and play style. What you are suggesting is not a fix for the issue as the original poster is calling for. You called for him to cheat back, which perpetuates the issue and compounds the problems.


I will say that if nothing is done about it soon though, that everyone will start using methods like this as the "norm" and then when it finally IS taken away/fixed there will be mass complaints from both sides of the fence.


LOL. Since when have the DEVs or CSRs ever done anything against Jedi? (Besides the animal control thing, remember an old guildie Jedi talking bout it, FUN.It still here?)



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