Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Overt Jedi can escape BH into bases: Is this intended?
truewildman wrote:
Wow, if I was hunting a jedi, and noticed that he was SF, I would call in back-up. No shame in that.
Who the hell are you people....look, I'm a nice guy and I do hang out with a few other players on my server, but I can't think of anyone I would call who would be willing to go overt and battle a PVP base just so I could try and kill ONE Jedi worth maybe 226K.....let alone the 10 or 12 that would be needed to take on a PVP base.
What ever happened to 1 vs. 1?
daetalus wrote:
StormTroopercpt0 wrote:
Just got word that it was an exploit, CSR was by me and saw him in base, But Mark Logged out cowardly when he was about to get busted.So he was exploiting tef while i was onleave and he was combatant/sf.
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs40&d=05312&f=factionbaseexploit.JPG
Message Edited by StormTroopercpt0 on 08-02-2005 12:07 AM
Funny how the CSR's contrict each other. I was told by a CSR that it was not exploiting for a SF jedi to run into a PVE/SF base while they were overt and the BH was onleave. The bases are not considered player structures b/c they are factional extensions. Even though they are placed by a player and take the base lots from a player, they arent really controled by the person who droped them.
P.S. how did you get a csr to log in to witness this? No ticket i have ever placed has ever called a csr to respond ingame.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Galon_Brightnight wrote:
GraySeven wrote:
I got all the info I need. However, as a purist, I believe that the movies should be the sole arbitrator of what is or isn't canon...
Yeah, I know, but its how I feel.
bounty hunters hunting jedi isn't cannon. game set match.
Actually Vader hired the BHs in TESB to hunt Luke. Han Solo just happened to be there.
I don't remember seeing Luke on the Falcon during that period of time. 
He hired the BHs to track down the Falcon and those on board so that he could use them to trap Luke himself. They were simply tools used by the Dark Lord to create the trap that he intended to spring. BHs were not hired to get Luke.
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fletcherreed wrote:
What if the BH is neutral? Is it an exploit when he cannot hunt those kind of jedi AT ALL?
Yeah for neutral is it an exploit but for faction BH it isn't.
Read the above sentence and say up loud "eXsPloiterz"
diepa wrote:
No contradiction, the screen shot just says he /report the jedi for abusing the TEF exploit, that is old and has been fixed, the CSR doesnt know what he is talking about. In any PvP Jedi/bh or normal PvP, the base is ALWAYS a safe haven. If you want to kill the player in the base, you have to go in and get them. God, the pissing and moaning from BH's never stop, he isnt in a house...you can get in the base. You chose to go on leave so you would not have to deal with npcs, the Jedi choose to go SF so he could enter the base if he needed too. No exploit....
Except that it circumvents the 1-on-1 nature of the bounty hunt itself... in the same way that having the names on the terms allowed bounty hunters to gang up on a Jedi. (And don't bring up the fact that one or two Jedi have reported 2-on-1's... the odds are WAY stacked against that happening.) To counter the base-sitter, the BHhas to either hunt same-faction or to take on the base AND the Jedi as an enemy combatant. Note, the only bases I'm seeing Jedi hide in are PvE bases. GCW Factionbases are PLAYER structures. They aren't random spawns. Theyare being placed near grinding points with just this situation in mind. Most BH's don't hunt same faction Jedi... whether through personal qualms or guild rules... so functionally they're no different than setting up a private house and exploiting the old TEF bug. (Or being able to pull out a dozen faction pets at a time... if the BH is combatant.)
I'm not saying its an exploit per se. But I am saying that its an "unintended consequence" of the way the GCW and the BH/J systems are intersecting here. If they're running SF and retreat to an SF base... I wouldn't have a problem with that. They've got more than just BH's to look out for in that case. But when I see this, every time so far, it's a Jedi running combatant and a PvE base.
In my opinion, a BH TEF should prevent a player from entering ANY structure that can restrict his hunter from following. I don't have a problem with a Jedi trying to kite a combatant enemy into a base full of NPC's as long as I can continue to attack the Jedi.
Message Edited by Grimjakk on 08-02-2005 08:18 AM
I think that sums it up for being an evil (and smart?) BH.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
Tucheck wrote:
truewildman wrote:
Wow, if I was hunting a jedi, and noticed that he was SF, I would call in back-up. No shame in that.
Who the hell are you people....look, I'm a nice guy and I do hang out with a few other players on my server, but I can't think of anyone I would call who would be willing to go overt and battle a PVP base just so I could try and kill ONE Jedi worth maybe 226K.....let alone the 10 or 12 that would be needed to take on a PVP base.
What ever happened to 1 vs. 1?
I'm a full-temp jedi, and I'm telling you, if a jedi is overt (SF), he's a) full-temp as well (c'mon, get help) b) looking for action and c) wants to be attacked with a challenge. Ever think of that?
SpunkyKuma wrote:
Here's a killer for you, tracked down a knight and noticed he was an overt Reb standing outside a SF base and I had him down to 1/3 health after attacking and he rushes into the base so I ran to the nearby PVE base and went Reb (and overt) and called over some overt Imps to stand guard outside the base while I run in so the Jedi had to fight me whether he liked it or not and if he went outside he'd be ganked.
I think that sums it up for being an evil (and smart?) BH.
SpunkyKuma wrote:
Can't do that when the base isn't vulnerable.
If it is a special forces base, most times it is a pve base...and a forward outpost at that. I know a few base busters that can take them out alone...
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Galon_Brightnight wrote:
GraySeven wrote:
I got all the info I need. However, as a purist, I believe that the movies should be the sole arbitrator of what is or isn't canon...
Yeah, I know, but its how I feel.
bounty hunters hunting jedi isn't cannon. game set match.
Actually Vader hired the BHs in TESB to hunt Luke. Han Solo just happened to be there.
Put the crack-pipe down.