Bounty Hunter Archive

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Spookibus wrote:

I've been away from the game for about 3 weeks due to school. I've been following the threads today about so-called nerfs to Cloak.

I think many are aware that many aspects of cloak are NOT working as intended at the present time. Jedi believe cloak should be an "I win" button and that it should be unassailable. For every "I had to give up XXX skill points" post, you see a "I stay cloaked in Theed all the time" post.

What I read is this:

--Cloak will now possibly have a counter, in Ranger.

--Cloak will now include a snare so that you have to sneak when you use it.

--Cloak will break in a variety of situations in which the Jedi is doing something obvious and noisy.

This seems much more balanced in my view. It will still be a superior skill to Rifleman Cover.

It would still be extremely powerful, but there would be risks associated with its use. As it is now, it is unbreakable, uses a laughably small amount of force, and you still know the Jedi is there 90% of the time. If these changes go through, sure some Jedi will drop it and maybe pick up MDefender.

Now THAT's a skill set that needs some balancing. And if enough Jedi start picking it up, then the cycle of nerfs will continue.

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WookieOgre wrote:

Ok, I'll be gentle because obviously you guys don't have this skill and don't understand the implications of the change:

:::whine:::

Now that I explained how the intended purpose of the skill will be completely worthless, lets look at the huge negatives using cloak. A BH shows up, a Jedi cloaks:

1) If a CM, they can throw ALL DoTs on the Jedi, incap them as if they heal it breaks the cloak and are attackable again

What's wrong with this? You shouldn't be able to heal/regen/buff while cloaked. No other profession in the game can do that, it's unbalanced.

Whats wrong with a CM being able to attack a cloaked Jedi? Sounds unbalanced that you can be attacked but can not heal. No other profession can cloak. Rifleman is the only one that comes close, then you cannot heal because you are prone, not because you are under cover.

2) Any BH can just follow the -snared- Jedi using the /follow command or droids. The Jedi is NOT allowed to logout or the Cloak will drop and you can kill them, sound like fun yet?

This is a known issue and is supposedly being fixed. It was an unintended result.

3) Any player while following the -snared- Jedi can easily do area attacks with friends to hit the Jedi, BH's will be using this one for sure.

Area attacks against another player or npc are perfectly ok. You are CLOAKED meaning invisible. You are confusing that with invincible. Just because the shooter cannot "see" you doesn't mean you aren't in the way of a blaster bolt.

You are confused yourself, he is not complaining about area attacks hitting him, he is complaining that he will not be able to move out of the line of fire because of the snare. Once again if he heals damage he looses cloak.

So tell me again how you don't see this as a big nerf. It not only makes the skill worthless as what it was supposedly designed to do, but it's a death trap the moment a Jedi does infact Cloak.

Itremains to be seen how bad the snare acutally is. It's all conjecture until it hits live test/live anyway. To comment now on it, is an excercise in futility.

While it may be silly to complain about the snare til you see how bad it is, however I see no need to have a snare if they take away the ability to heal/attack/channel.

**and please, don't sit here and tell me they are going to fix any of the above...Devs have spoken and in no way are they going to allow it to be used as an escape/healing tactic**

Do you have some proof of this? By the way, what's wrong with hitting force run to get away from a hunter? You don't *need* cloak... Surely you can stay 80m or more out of range long enough to lost he BH tef, and pull out your small generic house to retreat into, right?

Force run is not like burst run, all Jedi do not get it, you have to get 4000 in enhancer to get FR2. Cloak is in Powers, kind of like telling a rifleman they can always root and run.

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