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Thread: Nerf Root

WookieOgre
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:50 am
#27






Camelz wrote:




For the uneducated, ATM stands for "at the moment" not "after patch 19"






ATM on TEST, why don't you do some research. EVERYONE is posting numbers. Talking about how it is onlive meansnothing. Healing is changing. Saying an enhancement to another profession is not a nerf, LOL. Yes it is when that is the only ADVANTAGE you have when fighting them. You remove that ADVANTAGE, I call it a nerf.


I've been attacked by a BH with CM 4xxx currently on Live, it's a very viable option and I see a lot of BH's killing fully templated Jedi with it. Making the healing even better while making ours even slower (6 second delay), it was a double nerf to our profession. Don't play dumb for crying out loud lol. It's obvious you are smarter than that and trying to win an argument that Jedi were not nerfed in the patch due to Healing is laughable.


If you don't thinkJediwill no longer have a healing advantagethan you my friend are in denial. Even the previous GCW correspondent admitted this patch is dedicated to putting Jedi on par with normal combat players. What do you call that....an enhancement?
WookieOgre
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:55 am
#28






Camelz wrote:


If you read the terms and conditions on the eBay site you will see that you can lodge a claim if the item you bought is significantly different to the auction description. If the auction said you get an "I win" button you may be entitled to your money back.







oh and this comment is so funny, spending money on JEDI LOL. Jedi hasn't been worth the money since PATCH 9. I think the truth of the matter is you are a respec BH who has no idea what you are talking about. Buying a Jedi on EBAY, rofl.
AtonuTragona
Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:44 pm
#29


All,

Thanks for the awesome dialogue. It still sounds like there are jedi and non-jedi that feel root is overpowerd - but not because of the damage. It is because of the chaining.


Is that an agreeable nerf?


It sounds like some BH would rather kite than be rooted by a Jedi. I would rather use force run to catch up than have to rely on root. It just seems more dynamic to me.


The combat nerf feels like rolling dice would be faster to decide a fight.
destrkta
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:18 pm
#30

one thing your forgetting wookie is that jedi healing cost's a hell of a lot more sp wise than to be added to a normal template than a jedi to get 4000 healer

the only profession that should be outhealing 4000doctor or CM is master healer based on sp useage, because that's what the game eventually comes down to, how you spread your skill point's, personally if someone invested the sp's into master healer than i see no reason why they shouldn't be able to spam 1500heals ever 3 seconds at almost no action/mind cost(still force cost though) though a dabbler who uses a lousy 28point's into healer should not be given the ability to heal as one who has spent 63pts (4000doctor or cm)




Rand al'thor, the masterful Bounty Hunter
The hunter that is now hunted
Only BH to solo kill and hunt a Jedi Master(pre cu) on valcyn /bow quing'tut
destrkta
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:20 pm
#31

a 10 -20 second delay before being able to be rooted (once root has worn off) is what i'm forseeing but in this time you will be able to be snared, i also don't think there should be a timer on snare as you are still mobile and can get into cover etc, and with fr you can still move at a normal pace while snared.




Rand al'thor, the masterful Bounty Hunter
The hunter that is now hunted
Only BH to solo kill and hunt a Jedi Master(pre cu) on valcyn /bow quing'tut
aekeem
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:29 pm
#32






WookieOgre wrote:





Camelz wrote:



Did I miss the bit in Tiggs post about Novice Fencers getting 1500 heals every 3 seconds?


Could I very politely request that you read the release notes by Tiggsin the "In Testing" forum before trolling the BH forum and, quite frankly, showing your @$$ in here.


The only professions to get a boost in healing skill are Docs and Combat medics, and this is to reverse thebig nerf they got in the CU. Are you saying that Master Docs and Master Combat Medics should NOT be able to heal as efficiently as a Jedi youngling?







Maybe I'll explain it slowly for you so you understand.


JEDI does not get HEALING automatically,they must choose it as a part oftheir template.


Non-Jedi do not get HEALING automatically, they must choose it as a part of their template


Jedi choose 4xxx Healer, non-Jedi choose 4xxx CM or whatever in Doc. Both from the looks of it will be EQUAL or in favor of non-Jedi. Don't sit here and whine that OMG I have to choose healing when you can still have a double mastery ANYWAYS. The day that Jedi get 4xxx Healer as part of initiate is the day you can say "oh look at poor little me, I must sacrafice and pick up 4xxx CM with MBH/MR (or whatever combo you want)







except that:

healer 4xxxx= costs 28 skill points

cm4xxx= costs 78 skill pts


anyways keep playing kid mode cause you know you can't hang on a normal toon
aekeem
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:31 pm
#33






WookieOgre wrote:


I've been attacked by a BH with CM 4xxx currently on Live, it's a very viable option and I see a lot of BH's killing fully templated Jedi with it.





were these fully templated jedi afk by any chance? or did they choose not to get 4xxx healer?
destrkta
Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:41 pm
#34

what about those of us who chose no healer in our template (bhers that is.)




Rand al'thor, the masterful Bounty Hunter
The hunter that is now hunted
Only BH to solo kill and hunt a Jedi Master(pre cu) on valcyn /bow quing'tut
ktanner3
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:09 pm
#35






AtonuTragona wrote:


This move is unbalanced and should be removed from the game.


It is the new version of Dizzy/KD.


With the destruction of Jedi skills in publish 19, this will become a 1 shot finishing move.


Next on the nerf cry list is pistol specials working with rifles.






To the ill informed. This is NOT a special in the bounty hunter tree. It is earned in the PISTOLEER tree. You guys seem to cry in our forums regardless of whether it's apart of our skills or not. Just add Pistoleer to your long waah list which is now:


Smuggler: Nerf Low Blow and Last Ditch.

Pistoleer : Nerf Root

Doctor: Healing in publish 19 will be better than us.

Combat Medic: See above

Rifleman: Nerf Snare and don't allow them to use specials from other ranged weaopons,never mind what the devs say.

Bounty Hunter: Nerf everything

Message Edited by ktanner3 on 06-23-2005 09:12 PM



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groundcrew
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:20 pm
#36






Demio_Olaron wrote:
Seems like someone just lost 300k xp...

And nerfing root would mean nerfing all other specials since pistoleers wouldn't be able to do their jobs. And making them pistols only would go agains the whole concept of the CU. Hey, if I couldn't use a pistol special with my rifle, then the pistoleers shouldn't be able to use Adv. Sniper Shot with their pistols...

Root is fine as it is.




/agree



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ktanner3
Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:21 pm
#37






destrkta wrote:
what about those of us who chose no healer in our template (bhers that is.)






We 'vebeen told by the high and mighty jedi since the cu to stop whining about jedi heals and take up medic skiills. Now that heals will actually mean something they have changed their tune.



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HyprHypo
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:30 am
#38

lol this guy is a joke



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VolvoSsixtyTsix
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:34 am
#39

Heh have fun fighting any high level content. N-K necrosis, katarn, and krayt hunts will be really fun to fight.



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