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Thread: Killed 3 marks on kashykk (220K+) who were AFK and did not get paid (no DB, NO XP Loss)
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Hasun
Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:02 am
#27
WookieOgre wrote:
oh and btw, anyone complaining that you beat in the fight but they ran away successfully is really laughable, nothing more to say about that lol.
Wheres this come from? I do not understand
WookieOgre
Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:11 am
#28
Hasun wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
oh and btw, anyone complaining that you beat in the fight but they ran away successfully is really laughable, nothing more to say about that lol.
Wheres this come from? I do not understand
I'm refering to the other BH's who constantly complain that a Jedi has the ability to run/escape from their attackers even if they are winning the 1vs1 duel (that is essentially what a BH mission will be now). This was not directed towards you but to the complainers that feel a Jedi should have no where to go once a BH attacks his mark. It's simply laughable to suggest a Jedi must either kill the BH or be killed, which is what I read multiple times in this forum. Not to say their are not exploits that are used by Jedi (like runninginto a house after they engage in fighting)but those are exploits and hopefully are fixed with the next publish.
Farenheit
Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:15 am
#29
WookieOgre wrote:
Hasun wrote:
WookieOgre wrote:
oh and btw, anyone complaining that you beat in the fight but they ran away successfully is really laughable, nothing more to say about that lol.
Wheres this come from? I do not understand
I'm refering to the other BH's who constantly complain that a Jedi has the ability to run/escape from their attackers even if they are winning the 1vs1 duel (that is essentially what a BH mission will be now). This was not directed towards you but to the complainers that feel a Jedi should have no where to go once a BH attacks his mark. It's simply laughable to suggest a Jedi must either kill the BH or be killed, which is what I read multiple times in this forum. Not to say their are not exploits that are used by Jedi (like runninginto a house after they engage in fighting)but those are exploits and hopefully are fixed with the next publish.
QFE
TonieStark
Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:33 am
#30
I ask the Jedi afterwards, I have the screen shots, what is the "HHHMMM" comment? you sound ridicoulous. In fact 2 of the Jedis asked me what happened.
TonieStark
Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:49 am
#31
Here are the screens (I include a non afk 223K mark kill just to prove I know the difference (sigh), I have blurred names not to cause any undue embarassment for the jedi.
cut and paste to your browser if link does not work.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/mk2/jedi223K.jpg
223K NOT afk and payout was fine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/mk2/Jedinopay01.jpg
AFK Jedi no payout (124K)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/mk2/jedinopay2.jpg
AFK no payout 220K +
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/mk2/jedinopay03.jpg
AFK loading in no payout.
Message Edited by TonieStark on 07-18-2005 12:51 PM
Message Edited by TonieStark on 07-18-2005 12:51 PM
WookieOgre
Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:46 am
#32
rYsyn wrote:
Look Rysyn, your whole theory is based upon statements made by the devs that Jedi was supposed to be 1.5x stronger. Your not stating Jedi can do X, BH can't do X which leads to 1.5x power. Your blindly following statements that have changed.....like so many things in this game. Did you not hear in Fanfest a dev stated that Jedi was going to be nerfed down to a normal profession power wise until he/she joined the FRS? At first it was supposed to be little by little although publish 19 kind of threw Jedi over the cliff lol. You even have the devs themselves telling Tanks they think it's near equal in terms of power currently. If you look at the skills provided I can make a case that no matter what the Jedi chooses you can be effective against that template depending on what skills you choose.
Do you have a right to be skeptical, sure. You are of course an old school BH and believe meI know how strong Jedi were against Ranged BH's for so long. But this is no longer a system where a Jedi has the I win in AFK mode, no 85% block, no unresistable damage. As I've stated time and time again in this very forum, Jedi are unique in some way which makes them stronger in certain areas than a normal template, however, they are also weaker in certain areas. That's called balance IMO and it's why some Jedi who NEVER lost to a BH are now just finding themselves being killed.
Sure the devs have screwed up. They made the road to getting Jedi way too easy. Starting from the joke of a village grind to the AFK Jedi grind (which I would say most Jedi did not do this). Now Jedi get a special grind planet and it looks like it will be extremely hard to find the target.......notice I said target because that's all your gonna know lol. Let's not forget though that all of this has come at a huge price to the Jedi profession, we have been dumbed down to the point I almost get sick logging my Jedi on now. Do I wish devs could have stuck to their guns and kept Jedi with a TEF/Weekly Death counter.....hell yes. Anything (aside from perma death) would have been better than the current system. But devs choice was to nerf Jedi, nerf BH missions, end of story.
I hope you do at least attempt to hunt Jedi, from the sounds of it you haven't in a while. The old advantages the profession gaveare over, Jedi requires skill to play currently. I'd say more skill to play than a normal template as playing my MBH/MR alt is way more fun now. Hopefully I'll still see you in game!
Message Edited by WookieOgre on 07-19-2005 06:47 AM
Dobermangmc
Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:24 am
#33
thats just sad picking on an afk jedi just because u cant find any who arent afk on kashyyk, a true bounty hunter eh?
rYsyn
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:56 am
#34
WookieOgre wrote:
Look Rysyn, your whole theory is based upon statements made by the devs that Jedi was supposed to be 1.5x stronger. Your not stating Jedi can do X, BH can't do X which leads to 1.5x power. Your blindly following statements that have changed.....like so many things in this game. Did you not hear in Fanfest a dev stated that Jedi was going to be nerfed down to a normal profession power wise until he/she joined the FRS? At first it was supposed to be little by little although publish 19 kind of threw Jedi over the cliff lol. You even have the devs themselves telling Tanks they think it's near equal in terms of power currently. If you look at the skills provided I can make a case that no matter what the Jedi chooses you can be effective against that template depending on what skills you choose.
- I had not heard that Jedi were going to be "nerfed" to equal status.
- I heard that BH / Jedi missions were going to be "one on one"
- No where have I read tht Jedi were getting nerfed to equal status. If this is the case then that definitly changes things, can you provide the link (off hand) as to where that was stated?
- Is this "nerf" suppose to take place in Publish 20 or is it soppose to be "live" now?
- My understanding (and what I have experianced)is that Publish 19 is what the Dev's consider to be the "balancing" of Jedi and no more adjustments will be made.
- While they adjusted Defender and Healing, they really upped Force Powers and Sabers. Not sure they acheived equal, more like broght it dow from 3x to 1.5x. The "balance" was making the 4 Jedi templates equal, but they fell way short of making them equal to other full templates.
- So if there is another wave coming, then great. But if the dev's consider the current state to be "balanced" then that is still disturbing because they are not
Do you have a right to be skeptical, sure. You are of course an old school BH and believe meI know how strong Jedi were against Ranged BH's for so long. But this is no longer a system where a Jedi has the I win in AFK mode, no 85% block, no unresistable damage. As I've stated time and time again in this very forum, Jedi are unique in some way which makes them stronger in certain areas than a normal template, however, they are also weaker in certain areas. That's called balance IMO and it's why some Jedi who NEVER lost to a BH are now just finding themselves being killed.
Sure the devs have screwed up. They made the road to getting Jedi way too easy. Starting from the joke of a village grind to the AFK Jedi grind (which I would say most Jedi did not do this). Now Jedi get a special grind planet and it looks like it will be extremely hard to find the target.......notice I said target because that's all your gonna know lol. Let's not forget though that all of this has come at a huge price to the Jedi profession, we have been dumbed down to the point I almost get sick logging my Jedi on now. Do I wish devs could have stuck to their guns and kept Jedi with a TEF/Weekly Death counter.....hell yes. Anything (aside from perma death) would have been better than the current system. But devs choice was to nerf Jedi, nerf BH missions, end of story.
I hope you do at least attempt to hunt Jedi, from the sounds of it you haven't in a while. The old advantages the profession gaveare over, Jedi requires skill to play currently. I'd say more skill to play than a normal template as playing my MBH/MR alt is way more fun now. Hopefully I'll still see you in game!
- If what you say is true, and I trust that it is, perhaps I'll come out of retirement.
- I'd just like to know when this NERF is going to happen or if it already has.
- I'll need to update my template as waiting for Pistoleer to get fixed ain't going to happen so I'll just go pure Rifle and dabble some Medic skills.
- Thanks for the info
Message Edited by rYsyn on 07-19-2005 11:00 AM
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