Bounty Hunter Archive

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Hasun wrote:

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if your angry now, wait till we are FRS fodder.

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Oh precisely, SOE's tactics are clear as day. One downfall of FRS before were many full template Jedi sat twiddling their thumbs because MBHs were not up to the task of taking them on. Thus, fight clubs were born. Anonymous Jedi kills fight clubs but SOE has to give some way for Jedi to advance in FRS. Hiding payouts and sending MBH to Knights solves that issue.

Morning Aanu,

couple of things

I can see your point in the way that most jedi are one of the two that you listed, but I think that more and more jedi are walking away from the cookie-cutter not that there is anything wrong with that I just think more people are going into more of a variety, For me, I'm about done now 220+ I doubt I could kill you quickly, if I knew you were coming it would be hard for you to kill me quickly (unlike the last time) but I believe that you not knowing what lvl I am will allow alot of "less than 200k" to come out into the open....remember one thing...they don't/won't know if they are on the terms.
Hopefully people will try to be carefull but they will never know if your being hunted or not. Also as i said earlier...there won't be anybody holding missions. One of the main problems I had when lvling was that I did'nt have holders for my mission....well except for a couple of guildies who kept on hunting me.....when i was in the 60-100k range I used to hunt in tat....seriously ...about 4-6 BH's per 2 hour grind session....flocking after me. Will that change with the new system ...I think so. Allowing more jedi to come out of the trails etc.

Also I think that your not giving yourself credit with the template 1), 2)....most 225 jedi believe that they are unhuntable...all they ever expect is a duel from some guy...most walk around owning everything...but if you get a jedi thats has 10% force that is presently tanking a kryat...there is no way in hell that that jedi is walking away...or wait for that time in that GCW battle when he is snared from AI and underfire from loads of riflemen just depleteing his force...still do-able.


But I digress from the point I was trying to make. With the new name thing I believe that more and more jedi will come out into the world and gain visibility but not realize it. With the new TEF system I think this will allow BH's to get one shot off and trap the jedi from entering a private house. The only problem with this method is that the BH has to realize what hes shooting at...no longer can he ride in like John wayne and shout Yeeehaw...maybe look at what skill the jedi has...when the best time to attack....I only wish they took away the /duel bug so that you would'nt know if the BH had your mission. Also As I said before it might help relationship between BH's and Jedi...its not like you planned to take his mission...you were given it.

An important thing to put in place for this publish will be the deletion of all existing missions that BH's have presently. That, I'm sure, will increase the number of paddies on the terms. Remember that only jedi on-line will be listed...and most paddies love to play with their new sabers(i know I did).

On a last note....with the double xp/respecs and all that I see a huge increase in jedi numbers......every time i log in i get about 6-10 tells from paddies that are NOT in my guild asking to grind...they are out there....they just need to leave that damn trail....although i must admit from about 200k onwards I grinded on that trail. But its a lot more fun hunting dewies and If I was only hunted once a day or once a couple of days I probably would'nt have gone into them trails.

Anyways I hope that Proton carbine is working okay for you and that it has'nt jammed or anything like that.

Daire.
youngling.

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Jedi_Xan wrote:

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Aeleb wrote:

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Aanu wrote:
Hey Daire,

What confuses me is, what do you mean by Recon? What does that mean exactly?

Back in the day, that may have meant learning a Jedi's buffing habits. But now that means squat.

Here's the deal, a Jedi who has a double mastery is pretty much always ready. I've hunted enough 220-226k marks to know how the fights pan out. There are basically two types of templates out there:

1) M. Def, MLS, healer 4000. Innate armor makes these guys pretty much immortal. It is typical to see anywhere from 70-80% damage mitigation by these guys. So if you hit for 1000 pts, only 200 to 300 is going through. On offense, MLS gives the ranged KD, armor break, and power saber attack. These fights tend be long drawn out fights and it is not uncommon to get hit with a KD, armor break, and power saber attack combo. At which point the BH is seeing massive damage. All while pumping out 300pts of damage (and that doesnt include misses).

Now, I have tried varying tactics against M.Def. For example, Duetyrium Pyro and Crispic give plus 260 ranged accuracy. I take this combo to counter their defenses. But usually to no avail. Defesnses are just rediculously high.

2) M. Enhancer, MLS, some other stuff (some powers and/or healers). These guys are the rooters, armor break, and power saber attack guys. They rely on force stasis (root) to dish the damage. Usually with rudimentary healer or even enough powers for force cloak (which nullifies first strike).

Against these guys I only have statle shot (delay) and KD to buy some time when rooted. Usually am left to just heal away. These fights again can last anywhere from 1 minute to 6 or 7 minutes. But at all times the Jedi is in control.


Point is, most people naturally graviate towards the most powerful templates. Most people on the terms are full template Jedi. To say a full template with the above templates is 1.5 better than an elite combat prof is farcical.

I have no problems with a full template Jedi having all the power in the world. But making my content be going up against these power gods in what will be easily 9 in 10 fights (if not more, remeber group visibility is going away so padis can grind even easier) is very unbalancing.

If the devs want to stop BHs from going after low marks then DONT ALLOW BHs to go after low paying marks. BUT implementing a solution that pertty much throws BHs at full template Jedis is a complete dump on the BHs.

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I must humbly point one fact out.

Jedi are not your Only content. Since BH have the option of hunting Jedi with the Full knowledge of will probably happen. AND they are the only class capabale of doing this to another person, Then expect death to come swiftly.

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have you chased those NPC's? have you? It is pathetic at CL80.

But, you guys... hehe. It says CL80 on your color bubble, but its more like CL180.

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Acually Yes I am a MBH as well I know it sucks (Glad I wont have to grind out the XP again) The true problem is that they Made Jedi the Only thing that gives good xp, Good cash, and any real fun. But to those that feel that Jedi should not have the ability they have just because ou want to hunt them...... I feel no pity. You hunt anyone, I dont care if they give Smugglers or even tkm's as Marks, you should expect to die. You should realize that it WILL be hard. Imagine if you had to hunt Smugglers with thier root ability. Or MCM's! Players with real armor and real weapons!

I can hold my own against any non-jedi template without question.

And melee... yea right. They'll be dead before they get close enough to hit me.

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Tanks wrote:

Hey, don't get mad at me. I wasn't bragging about the kill, just confirming the bounty amounts. This was a test.

• Didn't mean too, sorry if I snapped at you


• just getting really frustrated at the amount of "love" that SoE is giving to Jedi. I guess it is as simple as "get over it" because it is obvious that Jedi is the "sacrid cow" of this game and everything thing that Soe creates and develops will be done for them and with them in mind.


• I would not be surprised is XP loss were done away with altogether (like it has been going over time).


• Jedi, to SoE, is the end game of SWG and is the reason to keep people playing


• New "content" will be geared at keeping Jedi challanged and the rest of us (ie background content) will just live off the scraps

All valid points and I have re-iterated them countless times to the devs. Check the stickies.

• I know you have, it's just frustrating to see this game go away from "Star Wars" and be focus exclusively on Jedi

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Yes, we have two options deal with it or quit. Sadly, I'm considering the latter. Back when MLS killed the MBH, many of us dealt with it with the hopes that the CU would save us. And certainly it did.

Publish 19 was a neutral publish. MBH got a bump with improved duelist stance (which in testing seems to do little against the high accuarcy of Knights) but Jedi got their damage cranked up considerably. Now publish 20 gives the Jedi even more.

I have no problem with Jedi being the alpha classes, but I dont want to be their fodder either. Yes, I could go MBH/MCM which seems to be the FOTM for dealing with high end marks. But I thats not my style.

There are better solutions to the problems that the Devs are trying to solve with this publish. Of course, this is the best solution if you are trying to throw MBH at full templates for the reinstatement of FRS. I don't trust SOE, and my money is on this publish is about giving full templates MBH to play as much as it is to protect the weak padiwans.

I don't mind losing fair fights, but with random marks the overwhelming majority of fights will be beyond what I consider fair. This translates into a not fun gaming experience, which translates into me questioning why I play this game to begin with.

It may be just doom and gloom speaking, as I have yet to experience publish 20, but I think this BH may be heading to greener pastures. Actually, I will problbly just wait until publish 21...

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Tanks wrote:

Exactly the same as before.

I killed a Jedi and his mission was 49K+, but got paid 226K.

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And I guess it helped in the fact, that one Jedi you killed while on the Test Center happened to be AFK at the time. And no thisJedi wasn't AFK grinding, they had to step away from the computer for a few minutes. Which people can usually do while on the Test Center and not worry about getting attacked or ganked.

But remember on the Payouts, the payout listed is just a base amount and depending on the jedi, and there is a "bonus" attached for a successful completion of the mission.

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MichailArris wrote:

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Tanks wrote:

Exactly the same as before.

I killed a Jedi and his mission was 49K+, but got paid 226K.

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And I guess it helped in the fact, that one Jedi you killed while on the Test Center happened to be AFK at the time. And no thisJedi wasn't AFK grinding, they had to step away from the computer for a few minutes. Which people can usually do while on the Test Center and not worry about getting attacked or ganked.

But remember on the Payouts, the payout listed is just a base amount and depending on the jedi, and there is a "bonus" attached for a successful completion of the mission.

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i think he remembered that because he put in his post that the mission was listed at 49k+ and he earned 226k......

so does the /duel exploit still work and would this mark have been 226k in the current system?

Agreed, I'm in the same boat.

I'll probably canceal my alt account and suspend this one for a while just to see if SoE shows any signs of understanding that Star Wars is not all about Jedi.

/notholdingbreath

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Jedi_Xan wrote:
I refuse to be fodder so Jedi can get force rank. They can kiss myass.

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Yea..I totally agree. It really sucks being someone elses content.

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Valkyrie36 wrote:

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Jedi_Xan wrote:
I refuse to be fodder so Jedi can get force rank. They can kiss myass.

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Yea..I totally agree. It really sucks being someone elses content.

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QFE!

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Valkyrie36 wrote:

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Jedi_Xan wrote:
I refuse to be fodder so Jedi can get force rank. They can kiss myass.

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Yea..I totally agree. It really sucks being someone elses content.

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ROFL