Bounty Hunter Archive

I can take down a 200k mark solo at least 50%+ of the time. Anything above that is usually me just playing a fancy game of suicide. Even at MBH+MR a 226k mark, which is almost 80% or more of them on the terms, is going to be nearly impossible to take down. And because we wont know the payout, that means at least 80% or more of the time, we will be dying. Exactly how rYsyn and Aanu said!

---

rYsyn wrote:

---

Tanks wrote:

Exactly the same as before.

I killed a Jedi and his mission was 49K+, but got paid 226K.

---

Great, how you got so luckly to get a Noob Jedi is beyond me.

Hey, don't get mad at me. I wasn't bragging about the kill, just confirming the bounty amounts. This was a test.

You do understand that 95% of the Jedi on the terminals (on live servers) are Jedi Knights. Do you really think that the "first strike" (even if the /duel issue isfixed) is going to off set the massive slaughter that will result in this fights?

Is your opinion, that a Bounty Hunter (w/ First Strike) is EQUAL to a Jedi Knight?

I realize that the developers don't care (or want) if the Jedi have it easy and can slaughter everyone that fights them, that is what they want and is a Jedi'scontent.

But I would hope that you would at least understand that the probability of completed a Bounty post Pub-20 will be about 10% (if that).

All valid points and I have re-iterated them countless times to the devs. Check the stickies.

---

---

tuffness55 wrote:
what about a jedi that hasn't been killed in a log time, is there an extra bonus for that?

---

I dont beleive that particular jedi has been killed for a very long time, so it would appear no bonus, unless they onlytake time on the terms post publish 20.

To my knowledge hed been on the terms for a month straight before the publish going to TC.

One good thing about this is that no longer will jedi-alts/jedi-guildmembers be able to hold onto a jedi's mission.....

If you count up how many missions are held this way you might see a huge spike in activity on the terminals when this goes live, that is if the old missions are erased(I hope this happens). And I agree with one of the posters saying that they should removed the /duel bug. Now that you don't know who you are hunting till you actually find them first, I believe the jedi should'nt know that you have the mission...but should suspect.

Time to lock and load. I might use my token(on alt) to go back to MBH and hunt again...no-longer will bounties will be a "pick-a-paddie", you are going to have to do some recon work first. I think this is good for the BH community and i believe that with the new housing-tef it will be a perfect way to stop the whining. You took a mission...it just so happens to be that your mark is a 100k paddie.


Daire.
Youngling.

Message Edited by warrenbassist on 07-11-2005 11:05 AM

Hey Daire,

What confuses me is, what do you mean by Recon? What does that mean exactly?

Back in the day, that may have meant learning a Jedi's buffing habits. But now that means squat.

Here's the deal, a Jedi who has a double mastery is pretty much always ready. I've hunted enough 220-226k marks to know how the fights pan out. There are basically two types of templates out there:

1) M. Def, MLS, healer 4000. Innate armor makes these guys pretty much immortal. It is typical to see anywhere from 70-80% damage mitigation by these guys. So if you hit for 1000 pts, only 200 to 300 is going through. On offense, MLS gives the ranged KD, armor break, and power saber attack. These fights tend be long drawn out fights and it is not uncommon to get hit with a KD, armor break, and power saber attack combo. At which point the BH is seeing massive damage. All while pumping out 300pts of damage (and that doesnt include misses).

Now, I have tried varying tactics against M.Def. For example, Duetyrium Pyro and Crispic give plus 260 ranged accuracy. I take this combo to counter their defenses. But usually to no avail. Defesnses are just rediculously high.

2) M. Enhancer, MLS, some other stuff (some powers and/or healers). These guys are the rooters, armor break, and power saber attack guys. They rely on force stasis (root) to dish the damage. Usually with rudimentary healer or even enough powers for force cloak (which nullifies first strike).

Against these guys I only have statle shot (delay) and KD to buy some time when rooted. Usually am left to just heal away. These fights again can last anywhere from 1 minute to 6 or 7 minutes. But at all times the Jedi is in control.


Point is, most people naturally graviate towards the most powerful templates. Most people on the terms are full template Jedi. To say a full template with the above templates is 1.5 better than an elite combat prof is farcical.

I have no problems with a full template Jedi having all the power in the world. But making my content be going up against these power gods in what will be easily 9 in 10 fights (if not more, remeber group visibility is going away so padis can grind even easier) is very unbalancing.

If the devs want to stop BHs from going after low marks then DONT ALLOW BHs to go after low paying marks. BUT implementing a solution that pertty much throws BHs at full template Jedis is a complete dump on the BHs.

---

Aanu wrote:
Hey Daire,

What confuses me is, what do you mean by Recon? What does that mean exactly?

Back in the day, that may have meant learning a Jedi's buffing habits. But now that means squat.

Here's the deal, a Jedi who has a double mastery is pretty much always ready. I've hunted enough 220-226k marks to know how the fights pan out. There are basically two types of templates out there:

1) M. Def, MLS, healer 4000. Innate armor makes these guys pretty much immortal. It is typical to see anywhere from 70-80% damage mitigation by these guys. So if you hit for 1000 pts, only 200 to 300 is going through. On offense, MLS gives the ranged KD, armor break, and power saber attack. These fights tend be long drawn out fights and it is not uncommon to get hit with a KD, armor break, and power saber attack combo. At which point the BH is seeing massive damage. All while pumping out 300pts of damage (and that doesnt include misses).

Now, I have tried varying tactics against M.Def. For example, Duetyrium Pyro and Crispic give plus 260 ranged accuracy. I take this combo to counter their defenses. But usually to no avail. Defesnses are just rediculously high.

2) M. Enhancer, MLS, some other stuff (some powers and/or healers). These guys are the rooters, armor break, and power saber attack guys. They rely on force stasis (root) to dish the damage. Usually with rudimentary healer or even enough powers for force cloak (which nullifies first strike).

Against these guys I only have statle shot (delay) and KD to buy some time when rooted. Usually am left to just heal away. These fights again can last anywhere from 1 minute to 6 or 7 minutes. But at all times the Jedi is in control.


Point is, most people naturally graviate towards the most powerful templates. Most people on the terms are full template Jedi. To say a full template with the above templates is 1.5 better than an elite combat prof is farcical.

I have no problems with a full template Jedi having all the power in the world. But making my content be going up against these power gods in what will be easily 9 in 10 fights (if not more, remeber group visibility is going away so padis can grind even easier) is very unbalancing.

If the devs want to stop BHs from going after low marks then DONT ALLOW BHs to go after low paying marks. BUT implementing a solution that pertty much throws BHs at full template Jedis is a complete dump on the BHs.

---

---

Aanu wrote:
Hey Daire,

What confuses me is, what do you mean by Recon? What does that mean exactly?

Back in the day, that may have meant learning a Jedi's buffing habits. But now that means squat.

Here's the deal, a Jedi who has a double mastery is pretty much always ready. I've hunted enough 220-226k marks to know how the fights pan out. There are basically two types of templates out there:

1) M. Def, MLS, healer 4000. Innate armor makes these guys pretty much immortal. It is typical to see anywhere from 70-80% damage mitigation by these guys. So if you hit for 1000 pts, only 200 to 300 is going through. On offense, MLS gives the ranged KD, armor break, and power saber attack. These fights tend be long drawn out fights and it is not uncommon to get hit with a KD, armor break, and power saber attack combo. At which point the BH is seeing massive damage. All while pumping out 300pts of damage (and that doesnt include misses).

Now, I have tried varying tactics against M.Def. For example, Duetyrium Pyro and Crispic give plus 260 ranged accuracy. I take this combo to counter their defenses. But usually to no avail. Defesnses are just rediculously high.

2) M. Enhancer, MLS, some other stuff (some powers and/or healers). These guys are the rooters, armor break, and power saber attack guys. They rely on force stasis (root) to dish the damage. Usually with rudimentary healer or even enough powers for force cloak (which nullifies first strike).

Against these guys I only have statle shot (delay) and KD to buy some time when rooted. Usually am left to just heal away. These fights again can last anywhere from 1 minute to 6 or 7 minutes. But at all times the Jedi is in control.


Point is, most people naturally graviate towards the most powerful templates. Most people on the terms are full template Jedi. To say a full template with the above templates is 1.5 better than an elite combat prof is farcical.

I have no problems with a full template Jedi having all the power in the world. But making my content be going up against these power gods in what will be easily 9 in 10 fights (if not more, remeber group visibility is going away so padis can grind even easier) is very unbalancing.

If the devs want to stop BHs from going after low marks then DONT ALLOW BHs to go after low paying marks. BUT implementing a solution that pertty much throws BHs at full template Jedis is a complete dump on the BHs.

---

I must humbly point one fact out.

Jedi are not your Only content. Since BH have the option of hunting Jedi with the Full knowledge of will probably happen. AND they are the only class capabale of doing this to another person, Then expect death to come swiftly.

---

Aeleb wrote:

---

Aanu wrote:
Hey Daire,

What confuses me is, what do you mean by Recon? What does that mean exactly?

Back in the day, that may have meant learning a Jedi's buffing habits. But now that means squat.

Here's the deal, a Jedi who has a double mastery is pretty much always ready. I've hunted enough 220-226k marks to know how the fights pan out. There are basically two types of templates out there:

1) M. Def, MLS, healer 4000. Innate armor makes these guys pretty much immortal. It is typical to see anywhere from 70-80% damage mitigation by these guys. So if you hit for 1000 pts, only 200 to 300 is going through. On offense, MLS gives the ranged KD, armor break, and power saber attack. These fights tend be long drawn out fights and it is not uncommon to get hit with a KD, armor break, and power saber attack combo. At which point the BH is seeing massive damage. All while pumping out 300pts of damage (and that doesnt include misses).

Now, I have tried varying tactics against M.Def. For example, Duetyrium Pyro and Crispic give plus 260 ranged accuracy. I take this combo to counter their defenses. But usually to no avail. Defesnses are just rediculously high.

2) M. Enhancer, MLS, some other stuff (some powers and/or healers). These guys are the rooters, armor break, and power saber attack guys. They rely on force stasis (root) to dish the damage. Usually with rudimentary healer or even enough powers for force cloak (which nullifies first strike).

Against these guys I only have statle shot (delay) and KD to buy some time when rooted. Usually am left to just heal away. These fights again can last anywhere from 1 minute to 6 or 7 minutes. But at all times the Jedi is in control.


Point is, most people naturally graviate towards the most powerful templates. Most people on the terms are full template Jedi. To say a full template with the above templates is 1.5 better than an elite combat prof is farcical.

I have no problems with a full template Jedi having all the power in the world. But making my content be going up against these power gods in what will be easily 9 in 10 fights (if not more, remeber group visibility is going away so padis can grind even easier) is very unbalancing.

If the devs want to stop BHs from going after low marks then DONT ALLOW BHs to go after low paying marks. BUT implementing a solution that pertty much throws BHs at full template Jedis is a complete dump on the BHs.

---

I must humbly point one fact out.

Jedi are not your Only content. Since BH have the option of hunting Jedi with the Full knowledge of will probably happen. AND they are the only class capabale of doing this to another person, Then expect death to come swiftly.

---

have you chased those NPC's? have you? It is pathetic at CL80.

But, you guys... hehe. It says CL80 on your color bubble, but its more like CL180.

---

Tanks wrote:

---

rYsyn wrote:

---

Tanks wrote:

Exactly the same as before.

I killed a Jedi and his mission was 49K+, but got paid 226K.

---

Great, how you got so luckly to get a Noob Jedi is beyond me.

Hey, don't get mad at me. I wasn't bragging about the kill, just confirming the bounty amounts. This was a test.

You do understand that 95% of the Jedi on the terminals (on live servers) are Jedi Knights. Do you really think that the "first strike" (even if the /duel issue isfixed) is going to off set the massive slaughter that will result in this fights?

Is your opinion, that a Bounty Hunter (w/ First Strike) is EQUAL to a Jedi Knight?

I realize that the developers don't care (or want) if the Jedi have it easy and can slaughter everyone that fights them, that is what they want and is a Jedi'scontent.

But I would hope that you would at least understand that the probability of completed a Bounty post Pub-20 will be about 10% (if that).

All valid points and I have re-iterated them countless times to the devs. Check the stickies.

---

---

if your angry now, wait till we are FRS fodder.

---

Aeleb wrote:

---

I must humbly point one fact out.

Jedi are not your Only content.

---

Actually Jedi hunting is "my" content. This is why I play the game. I understand that others like to paticipate in the GCW or get Jedi themselves, but thats not the content I am interesed in.

I refuse to be fodder so Jedi can get force rank. They can kiss myass.

---

Aeleb wrote:

---

Aanu wrote:
Hey Daire,

What confuses me is, what do you mean by Recon? What does that mean exactly?

Back in the day, that may have meant learning a Jedi's buffing habits. But now that means squat.

Here's the deal, a Jedi who has a double mastery is pretty much always ready. I've hunted enough 220-226k marks to know how the fights pan out. There are basically two types of templates out there:

1) M. Def, MLS, healer 4000. Innate armor makes these guys pretty much immortal. It is typical to see anywhere from 70-80% damage mitigation by these guys. So if you hit for 1000 pts, only 200 to 300 is going through. On offense, MLS gives the ranged KD, armor break, and power saber attack. These fights tend be long drawn out fights and it is not uncommon to get hit with a KD, armor break, and power saber attack combo. At which point the BH is seeing massive damage. All while pumping out 300pts of damage (and that doesnt include misses).

Now, I have tried varying tactics against M.Def. For example, Duetyrium Pyro and Crispic give plus 260 ranged accuracy. I take this combo to counter their defenses. But usually to no avail. Defesnses are just rediculously high.

2) M. Enhancer, MLS, some other stuff (some powers and/or healers). These guys are the rooters, armor break, and power saber attack guys. They rely on force stasis (root) to dish the damage. Usually with rudimentary healer or even enough powers for force cloak (which nullifies first strike).

Against these guys I only have statle shot (delay) and KD to buy some time when rooted. Usually am left to just heal away. These fights again can last anywhere from 1 minute to 6 or 7 minutes. But at all times the Jedi is in control.


Point is, most people naturally graviate towards the most powerful templates. Most people on the terms are full template Jedi. To say a full template with the above templates is 1.5 better than an elite combat prof is farcical.

I have no problems with a full template Jedi having all the power in the world. But making my content be going up against these power gods in what will be easily 9 in 10 fights (if not more, remeber group visibility is going away so padis can grind even easier) is very unbalancing.

If the devs want to stop BHs from going after low marks then DONT ALLOW BHs to go after low paying marks. BUT implementing a solution that pertty much throws BHs at full template Jedis is a complete dump on the BHs.

---

I must humbly point one fact out.

Jedi are not your Only content. Since BH have the option of hunting Jedi with the Full knowledge of will probably happen. AND they are the only class capabale of doing this to another person, Then expect death to come swiftly.

---

I would like to point out that our other content you refer to is terrible. You pick up an NPC mission on the terms and they are only level 53 even though the terms said they were CL 75. I can drop a these NPC's in two shots so that isnt very fun. Plus I dont need any more BH exp as I am MBH. Plus they only pay about 27-33k tops. Most cases you spend about 5k in travel tickets(round trip) to reach your target so the mission payout can be as low as 22k.

Message Edited by Vlamr on 07-11-2005 08:57 AM