Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: WHATS REALLY HAPPENING WITH JEDI GRIEFING
mindspat wrote:And the funny thing is not a single one of you have the courage to pull my mission and come after me.
We are you all unable to step up and come get some? I'm sorry, maybe 'cs you're scared adn know you wouldn't stand a chance no matter how many friends you brought.
Please feel free, I'm on the terms and if you can get me I'll double the payout.
Your really bored aren't you? No seriously...as in "IRL at work and bored or something"?
mindspat wrote:
And the funny thing is not a single one of you have the courage to pull my mission and come after me.
We are you all unable to step up and come get some? I'm sorry, maybe 'cs you're scared adn know you wouldn't stand a chance no matter how many friends you brought.
Please feel free, I'm on the terms and if you can get me I'll double the payout.
Well for starters, I'm not on your server.
Secondly, have you ever stopped to think why no one ever comes for you? Is it because individually you're so unbelievably awesome at your playing style? Or is it because bounty hunters don't go for any full templates because the build itself is innately too powerful?
Good way to check: drop enough skills until you're down to about 170k.
I guarantee you you'll see more visits. Plus, you'll be able to compare your uber pwnzor skillsminus all those fancy abilties that don't require any talent.
Of course if "you're scared adn know you wouldn't stand a chance," I'd understand.
Romulus76 wrote:
Indeed. Yet I keep reading these idiotic posts by other jedi claiming a year's grind. It's freaking laughable.
Really? then apparently you are either a child that lives with his parents, or unemployed. Which is it, Sir?
I, personally, unlocked right after the first respec period ended, and have not gotten very far at all. I am on a low-pop server, so groups you can trust aren't as easy to find. I also only have a few hours a day to play, maybe 3-4. It takes a good hour to get a group, and let's say they are fast, and we grind on Kash for say 200k an hour. in an hour I have one box, by the time I log off, I have half of the next one.
Next night, noone in my guild is grinding, so I go out with some other guys. These guys aren'ton kash because one of them doesn't have the expansion yet, so we grind on Tat. Here comes a BH. Ok, still have my pre-jedi skills, so he dies. An hour later, I am almost to my second box. Wait, another blue dot. He drops the mission, same faction. grind another hour, go get another box. get back to the group, grind for 30 minutes, a purple dot.
Crap, another BH. This one knows what he is doing, I am dead, and since I jsut trained, I am now 136k in the hole. I log, ticked off at myself.
Now, in 2 days, I have trained gained 440k exp.
2 days.
So don't tell me that it taking a year is laughable. If I have my temp finished in 6 mths, I will feel blessed. And that's if I don't play my alt at all.
Thassk wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
Tucheck wrote:
ONCE AGAIN (and not for the LAST time)....
Jedi griefing was a DIRECT result of Jedi obtaining vis while grouped...this was a direct result of the changes made BY the Devs. Now they have fixed the "group vis" problem BUT the recourse and changes are STILL going to go live. It was a "set up" and if anyone can't see that, then they are too far on the other side of the fence.
I REFUSE to believe that Jedi were grieved so much as to justify this as a solution. YES....a "type" of Jedi was hunted more then another....
HEY DEVS....THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GIVE US THE POWER NEEDED TO KILL THE FULL PADDIES!
It won't stop me though....you can slow me down...but you can't force me to attack. If I pull a full temp...I'll drop that missions faster then FR3, and try it again.
Believe it.
It's not just griefing, per se. The main problem was that bounty hunters were going after Jedi in gank squads. This violated the Dev's game design regarding bounty hunter vs. jedi strength. It is clear that full template Jedi are 1.5x the power of a single bounty hunter. This, for the most part, is true. They achieve this balance. Gank squads broke this balance and thus had to be addressed -- which is what the anonymous Jedi missions are doing.
If you dislike the anonymous Jedi mission changes, you can thank the non-skill-having bounty hunters in Gank Squads (such as the guy who killed a Jedi's jetpack in another recent post), not the griefers, for this.
first off i dont buy this 1.5x stronger crap they are what they are ... you cant tell me aM pistoleerisnt stronger than a mastersmuggler ... or a master carbineer is equal in strengthto a master rifleman .. yet they are supposed to be equal 1 = 1 .... so we have no way to judge jedi ... as being 1.5 stronger ... against a pistoleer a jedi is much stronger than against a rifleman ....
and as far as gank squads .. take away their ability to gank paddies .. but why take it away for full temps? why should we have to play a game where we are designed to win 20% or less of the time? you know padawans wont be hunted now without group vis they wont ever be on the terms its only the full templates who are gonna get on the terms .... why not enable XP for low end mobs ...? so a paddie didnt need to group to gain XP ? so he could grind in peace ....why not just cut group vis ... so if they landed on the terms they deserved a beating ....
gank squads going after low level paddies werent the norm .. it was the rarity ... it was younger kids who werent good at PVP who wanted to be BH ....
the names off the terms were a result by AFK'ers moaning about massive XP debt ... and sony not knowing the full story behind their moans and cries .,... MOST people who were " griefed" were afk'ers ...
you could solve the problem of gank squads by eliminating mutliple BH missions .. you dont need to take our names and info away ... its not realistic .. it takes immersion away for the hunter ....
i think, sir, that you are an idiot. All of the professions are equal.. well 'cept maybe CH, because they all have certain qualities the other dosent have to balnce it out... for instance pistoleer has a root, rifleman dosent etc etc. It not anyones fault but your own if you havent learned how to play your template.
Same against Jedi. Honestly Jedi are not what they used to be or should be for that matter. and it wasnt the afk jedi that were being griefed you dummy, even though they may have complained about getting killed while afk, cause thats just dumb.\
BH is THE reason for the new vis changes to jedi because instead of taking mission on Jedi that COULD fight back, you preyed upon the low level paddies time after time after time because it seemed to swell your manhood and you liked to brag about how tough you were when, in reality, you were just picking a fight against a toon you KNEW you could beat easily. there's not much to brag about when a lvl 80 BH or 3 show up to kill a level 43 padawan.
And SINCE jedi are not what they used to be and are continuously being nerfed into mundane glow stick wielders, essentially turning them into just another profession with a different weapon, why SHOULDN't they finish faster? Its not they are going to be cutting thru blast doors with a saber that cant even cut off your ego-swollen head.
Now, if they give jedi back the power they SHOULD have, even if they make them a faction unto themselves in relation to their ability to attack other players in PVP, the grind SHould be more difficult. But as is, its just another job with a cool weapon and some neat animations.
So stop whining about not being able to prey on the little kiddies at will anymore and suck it up! Time to earn your keep.
and yes i HAve been a BH and a wide range of other buttkickers, and i ONCE thought as you do. But why bother it'll just be a new game next month anyway 
Be seeing ya.
Muggles! geez!