Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Tanks,please get the BH loot issue addressed w/ novice BH's
ocili wrote:its just sad that we now have the best loot available to us in-game, but yet still, 3/4 of the posts are about how someone didn't get the uber enhanced power cells or jedi ca, so they think loot has been nerfed or want it nerfed as this poster is asking. for once, MBH means something since the CU came out. I mastered it first thing in-game about 1 year ago and have stuck with it ever since.
so like I said before, if you can't handle chasing after your mark, drop some skills to a lower invest line and grind them out that way. if not, the /respec to another proff please. WE DON'T NEED TO BE NERFING OUR OWN PROFFESION!
His xoncern is that a person with just Novice Bounty Hunter can get the same exact loot faster, and more effeciently than he can. We as Master Bounty Hunters have to travel across the galaxy to find our marks while a Novice Bounty Hunter has his mark on the same planet.
Loot should be based on the difficulty of the mark. By that I mean, the higher your skill as a Bounty Hunter the higher the chances are that you'll get decent loot. Obviously the lower your skill, the lower your chances are of getting good loot.
-BihKehHe
ocili wrote:
its just sad that we now have the best loot available to us in-game, but yet still, 3/4 of the posts are about how someone didn't get the uber enhanced power cells or jedi ca, so they think loot has been nerfed or want it nerfed as this poster is asking. for once, MBH means something since the CU came out. I mastered it first thing in-game about 1 year ago and have stuck with it ever since.
so like I said before, if you can't handle chasing after your mark, drop some skills to a lower invest line and grind them out that way. if not, the /respec to another proff please. WE DON'T NEED TO BE NERFING OUR OWN PROFFESION!
Well, I mastered it a year before you did (November 2003)and I happen to agree with him.
All perks for being a profession should be at the Master Level. This has always been the position most Bounty Hunters have taken and it is consistent with what other professions have stated about thier desired content as well.
When adding profession content, itis critical that it be at the Master Level. Not only as an added incentive to Master over Dabble, but as areward. Professions are suppose to be defined by thier "role" and that "role" should be best defined at the master level.
What he is asking is not to NERF the profession but to actually help keep it pure. Being able to get Novice NPC missions and aquire the same loot off easier marks actualy hurts the profession. Having Access to Jedi missions is not much of an incentive considering the best template to dispose of them is a Combat Medic with the Bounty Hunter skills being a minor contribution.
But Bounty Hunter (As a profession)is not defined by the Jedi missions, it is defined by the NPC missions and as a result the Master Level should have the most significant reward. Right now, all the loots are random and an Elite Boss (38k Health) drops the same stuff that a 7k Mark drops and sometimes that Elite boss drops nothing but a melon. So his point is where is the bonus for being a Master when your missions are harder, take longer to kill, and take longer to track, and don't give anything better for it?
Seems like a reasonable request if you ask me. He is not asking for the drop rate at the master level to be changed, but perhaps the quality of the drops should be scaled based on theSkill level of the Investigation Tree with the final aspect being the Master Box.
- Investigate Box2 - Simple Smuggler Kits
- Investigate Box3 - Mid Grade Smuggling items
- Investigate Box4 - High End Smuggler Gear
- Master Level - SEAs
Before you run off and insult the guy by calling him a "nOOb", perhaps you should listen to his point and not respond like a nOOb.
Now, with all that said, it is a minor issue. I am VERY happy with our revised NPC missions and even though I have "tougher" marks and have to go through more time and work to get the same loot as a Novice, it is still much better then it was and MUCH better content then any other profession in the game.
So, while I agree with the original poster, I think SoE has MUCH bigger problems to address then this issue and I can live with how it is now until they do.
Message Edited by rYsyn on 08-22-2005 03:57 PM
Blixtev Deserves a Raise, and ALL of you should be following his example! .
Bounter Hunter Loot isn't good, Everyone elses Loot is just BAD. Fix the Loot Tables!
SW:G=Worst Loot Drop Rate in the MMORPG Industry.
Dath Halcyon--Veteran since April, 2003.
Reyza wrote:
hamhamthe3rd wrote:
wow, i just cant believe this thread. with complaints like this i wouldnt be surprised if they justreducedthe loot across the board. complaints like this are just reaching in that direction and are ultimately silly.
I smell a novice level loot farmer!
/jk
about the big loot not agree with that.iam mbh doing 15 miss yestaday and get only junks, the best one is bio engineer poster.
so i think is a bit of chance to loot +13 ca or aa et...
just some ppl are lucky then others
Korom wrote:
First of all, Duelist Stance gives melee Defense, and all the cl 82's I've come across have been ranged so it benefits nothing, secondly, the time that it takes a dabbler/novice bh to take bounty missions and farm loot is fractionally what it takes a MBH to run a mission hoping for loot. No boss has looted anything other than smuggler parts for me in the last 5 days. Why should dabblers and novices be able to pull missions and get the same chance of looting high end loot at a faster rate than the master profession? The loot tables should be based on the amount of investigation so that the profession actually means something, not for every loot hungry dabbler to come along and farm out loots so they get nerfed to hell and back. Its the attitude of loot farmers and their greed that gets the loot nerfed not those who advocate for the high end loots to be gathered by those who've actually mastered professions. I advocate that all high end loots should be fixed not just bounty hunter loots, but since this is the BH forum, this is my main concern here.
Darknyt13 wrote:
rYsyn wrote:
What he is trying to get you to see is that the High End Smuggler Loots droping for normal Level 80 NPCs is flooding the market because they are to easy to get
The High End loot should be reserved for the Elite Boss, not the normal missions
us lowly "non-masters" are pulling CL82 "gold-chevron" marks too. And we're doing it without the benefit of Adv. Critical and Improved Duelist Stance.
I seem to get them about 50% of the time at Investigtion 1.
Yes, you may have to do some travelling, but the fight isn't any harder for you than it is for us.
Couple points here.
- If you are not a Master Bounty Hunter (IMO) you should not be pulling the Elite (Gold)Boss's in your missions that should be reserved for the Master Bounty Hunter as it was described to us by SoE
- Non-Master should randomly (10%) get a Silver Boss (18K HAM) and with that get the Elite Smuggler Loot
- Master Bounty Hunter's should pull mostly Silver Boss's (at the rate we do now) with the random (10%)Elite Boss (Gold Chevron)
- The Elite Loot SEA's should only come from the GoldenBoss's
- Duelist Stance adds Ranged Defense, not melee
Message Edited by rYsyn on 08-23-2005 06:36 AM
Tanks,
According to how it was posted when this went live, Boss mobs where only suppose to be available to the Master Box BH.
The fact that they are available to any BH is a bug it seems ( which would be confirmed by the post for Publish 23...though its full of errors and stuff from previous patches that I hope Tiggs cleans up today. )
MeciniaLua wrote:
Tanks,
According to how it was posted when this went live, Boss mobs where only suppose to be available to the Master Box BH.
The fact that they are available to any BH is a bug it seems ( which would be confirmed by the post for Publish 23...though its full of errors and stuff from previous patches that I hope Tiggs cleans up today. )
Exactly!
These Elite Bosses were suppose to be a "Bonus" for the Master Bounty Hunter and only the Elite Boss's were suppose to drop the loot.
It is not a NERF to fix a bug!
AxeoCook23 wrote:
i dont know if anyone saw but with patch 23 TC notes they are moving boss marks to MBH
Axeo Cook
rYsyn wrote:
MeciniaLua wrote:
Tanks,
According to how it was posted when this went live, Boss mobs where only suppose to be available to the Master Box BH.
The fact that they are available to any BH is a bug it seems ( which would be confirmed by the post for Publish 23...though its full of errors and stuff from previous patches that I hope Tiggs cleans up today. )
Exactly!
These Elite Bosses were suppose to be a "Bonus" for the Master Bounty Hunter and only the Elite Boss's were suppose to drop the loot.
It is not a NERF to fix a bug!
you both should learn to read....it doesnt say it was for only masters...just says the chance for masters to get boss mobs is increased....READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!
SECONDLY, this is whats so wrong with the game...people crying for nerfs in there own profession.....sad
You get something good given to your profession and you want to spite the people who are lower level than yourself because they are getting something nice from it, really giving some enjoyment to levelling the Investgation branch (which for the record I have done manually 3 times)....Really disgusting.
Message Edited by GideonBlack on 08-23-2005 04:56 AM