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Thread: SamousNemo: Please clarify Is it supposed to 1 BH vs 1 Jedi or not ?

mindspat
Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:16 pm
#27







Genildor wrote:





mindspat wrote:








SamousNemo wrote:


Well for starters the bounty description already tells you the faction of your mark. Assuming when/if the FRS is reinstitued, it very well may likely require Knights to be SF again.


So... all we'd need to do is have the bounties denote if it is a Knight or not, then a hunter would just have to bring SF friends of the opposing faction. True, the Knight probably has SF friends of his own, but that's what balance is all about.


Technically, since the vast majority of Jedi on the terminals are SF (how else are they getting vis?) anyhow, you could bring a group of SF cronies and have decent chances of "ganking"





Equiping a lightsaber near any of these: a player, an NPC, a Vendor, a Trainer, a droid, a pet, a vehilce and...a corpse.


Also, tunning a crystal near any of the above mentioned items will _ALSO_ give viz. While putting the robe on will not cause viz taking it off may very well if you are near any of the above mentioned items.


There's also talk that opening a lightsaber that is _not_ equiped will also generate viz.


And for the record, equiping a lightsaber will generate full viz regardless if you're grouped with the players and the pets are yours. They will all instantly place you on the terms.


VIZ is _NOT_ linked to being special forces.


Most players, including Jedi, have no clue what is causing them viz even when they are being very carefull.


"oh damn, my trusty droid just reported me to the Empire!"






All that is in red is completely incorrect, unless they've changed the system in the past month. Only using the lightsabers/force powers near NPC's and the like causes visibility.






It's been like this since I've been Jedi which is about 11 months now. If I want to go on the terms ALL I have to do is shuttle to Nyms and requip my saber a few times...well, I haven't had my viz cleared for a while although I know others who've been able to proove this.


As a matter of fact...I did loose to a BH the other night (no excuse: lag stacked dmg and dropped hitpoints from 4500 to zero in 2 seconds.) and Ihad a visit last night where asall I did was re-equip my saber a few times to regenerate viz. I've done this many times over the past 3-4 months whne I felt my viz was cleared and regardless to your belief, I had a visit within 4 hours.


Are you saying that the following instances DO NOT create viz? If so, there's many players who will disagree with you.

Equiping a lightsaber ortunning a pear/crystalnear any of these: a player, an NPC, a Vendor, a Trainer, a droid, a pet, a vehilce and...a corpse.


*edit: within 32m

Message Edited by mindspat on 10-17-2005 03:18 PM




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SamousNemo
Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:31 pm
#28






mindspat wrote:








SamousNemo wrote:


Technically, since the vast majority of Jedi on the terminals are SF (how else are they getting vis?)





Equiping a lightsaber near any of these: a player, an NPC, a Vendor, a Trainer, a droid, a pet, a vehilce and...a corpse.


Also, tunning a crystal near any of the above mentioned items will _ALSO_ give viz. While putting the robe on will not cause viz taking it off may very well if you are near any of the above mentioned items.


There's also talk that opening a lightsaber that is _not_ equiped will also generate viz.


And for the record, equiping a lightsaber will generate full viz regardless if you're grouped with the players and the pets are yours. They will all instantly place you on the terms.


VIZ is _NOT_ linked to being special forces.


Most players, including Jedi, have no clue what is causing them viz even when they are being very carefull.


"oh damn, my trusty droid just reported me to the Empire!"







Very good points, but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to get at...


Jedi who PvP a lot generate more vis than Jedi who do not. As a result, most of the Jedi on the terminals are in the PvP crowd


Therefore, if you grab a bounty off the terminals, chances are he'll be SF when you find him (hence my suggestion)


I am perfectly aware that PvE Jedi can get vis and can get on the terminals. However, I can't even remember the last chance I found a Jedi grinding off of Kashyyyk. I know it happens, but I never come across them




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coronula
Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:50 pm
#29






SamousNemo wrote:





mindspat wrote:








SamousNemo wrote:


Technically, since the vast majority of Jedi on the terminals are SF (how else are they getting vis?)





Equiping a lightsaber near any of these: a player, an NPC, a Vendor, a Trainer, a droid, a pet, a vehilce and...a corpse.


Also, tunning a crystal near any of the above mentioned items will _ALSO_ give viz. While putting the robe on will not cause viz taking it off may very well if you are near any of the above mentioned items.


There's also talk that opening a lightsaber that is _not_ equiped will also generate viz.


And for the record, equiping a lightsaber will generate full viz regardless if you're grouped with the players and the pets are yours. They will all instantly place you on the terms.


VIZ is _NOT_ linked to being special forces.


Most players, including Jedi, have no clue what is causing them viz even when they are being very carefull.


"oh damn, my trusty droid just reported me to the Empire!"







Very good points, but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to get at...


Jedi who PvP a lot generate more vis than Jedi who do not. As a result, most of the Jedi on the terminals are in the PvP crowd


Therefore, if you grab a bounty off the terminals, chances are he'll be SF when you find him (hence my suggestion)


I am perfectly aware that PvE Jedi can get vis and can get on the terminals. However, I can't even remember the last chance I found a Jedi grinding off of Kashyyyk. I know it happens, but I never come across them






I understand what you seem to be trying to get at, but Ihighly disagree with your conclusion that most of the jedi on the terminals are SF. Are you telling me that a vast majority of your marks are overt when you find them? I just can't believe that.


It is very easy to get plenty of visibility to get on the terminals without being SF. Running most quest missions that involvekilling NPCs while a jedi will give you more than enough visibility without being SF. Killing Canyon Corsairs to harvest crystals generates visibility. Many who pvp do so via guild wars and generate plenty of visibility without being SF. Killing NPC troopers and pve bases. Eventhose who pvp probably don't remain SFmost of the timeandgo on leave when not looking for trouble. It is often difficult to find anyonewho is SF be they jedi or not. Once you are on the terminals it doesn't matter if you got the visibility in 10 minutes or two hours. You will be on there for days.




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jesuskane
Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:25 pm
#30






coronula wrote:






SamousNemo wrote:





mindspat wrote:








SamousNemo wrote:


Technically, since the vast majority of Jedi on the terminals are SF (how else are they getting vis?)





Equiping a lightsaber near any of these: a player, an NPC, a Vendor, a Trainer, a droid, a pet, a vehilce and...a corpse.


Also, tunning a crystal near any of the above mentioned items will _ALSO_ give viz. While putting the robe on will not cause viz taking it off may very well if you are near any of the above mentioned items.


There's also talk that opening a lightsaber that is _not_ equiped will also generate viz.


And for the record, equiping a lightsaber will generate full viz regardless if you're grouped with the players and the pets are yours. They will all instantly place you on the terms.


VIZ is _NOT_ linked to being special forces.


Most players, including Jedi, have no clue what is causing them viz even when they are being very carefull.


"oh damn, my trusty droid just reported me to the Empire!"







Very good points, but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to get at...


Jedi who PvP a lot generate more vis than Jedi who do not. As a result, most of the Jedi on the terminals are in the PvP crowd


Therefore, if you grab a bounty off the terminals, chances are he'll be SF when you find him (hence my suggestion)


I am perfectly aware that PvE Jedi can get vis and can get on the terminals. However, I can't even remember the last chance I found a Jedi grinding off of Kashyyyk. I know it happens, but I never come across them






I understand what you seem to be trying to get at, but Ihighly disagree with your conclusion that most of the jedi on the terminals are SF. Are you telling me that a vast majority of your marks are overt when you find them? I just can't believe that.


It is very easy to get plenty of visibility to get on the terminals without being SF. Running most quest missions that involvekilling NPCs while a jedi will give you more than enough visibility without being SF. Killing Canyon Corsairs to harvest crystals generates visibility. Many who pvp do so via guild wars and generate plenty of visibility without being SF. Killing NPC troopers and pve bases. Eventhose who pvp probably don't remain SFmost of the timeandgo on leave when not looking for trouble. It is often difficult to find anyonewho is SF be they jedi or not. Once you are on the terminals it doesn't matter if you got the visibility in 10 minutes or two hours. You will be on there for days.






Samous means jedi players who like to pvp and do pvp most of the time generate more vis and their missions appear more often on the terminals. Since they push the limits on vis system by using force/lightsaber infront of/against opposing faction members which generates the most vis. Which is right.



Funny comment about FRS/SF ganking Samous. Back to good! old days if it happens. Maybe you shouldn t encourge something like that.


A Bounty Hunter can kill A Jedi on a 1 on 1 fight. A Bounty Hunter is not supposed to go toe to toe against ANY opponent and finally a Bounty Hunter NEVER choses to go toe to toe against ANY target. Come on guys yes we have the game and stuff but the players will keep the SW spirit up.


And it seems like there is a reason that real bounty hunters don t post as often as some others do.



Instead of ganking, think about the good old days, think about a full ranged Bounty Hunter going after a 700k mark all alone, withoutbuffs and food and getting his reward. Sounds like a dream? hmmm well it was not.


Have a nice day.





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KenzoDarkron
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:32 pm
#31



coronula wrote:


SamousNemo wrote:


mindspat wrote:


SamousNemo wrote:

Technically, since the vast majority of Jedi on the terminals are SF (how else are they getting vis?)


Equiping a lightsaber near any of these: a player, an NPC, a Vendor, a Trainer, a droid, a pet, a vehilce and...a corpse.

Also, tunning a crystal near any of the above mentioned items will _ALSO_ give viz. While putting the robe on will not cause viz taking it off may very well if you are near any of the above mentioned items.

There's also talk that opening a lightsaber that is _not_ equiped will also generate viz.

And for the record, equiping a lightsaber will generate full viz regardless if you're grouped with the players and the pets are yours. They will all instantly place you on the terms.

VIZ is _NOT_ linked to being special forces.

Most players, including Jedi, have no clue what is causing them viz even when they are being very carefull.

"oh damn, my trusty droid just reported me to the Empire!"



Very good points, but I think you misunderstood what I was trying to get at...

Jedi who PvP a lot generate more vis than Jedi who do not. As a result, most of the Jedi on the terminals are in the PvP crowd

Therefore, if you grab a bounty off the terminals, chances are he'll be SF when you find him (hence my suggestion)

I am perfectly aware that PvE Jedi can get vis and can get on the terminals. However, I can't even remember the last chance I found a Jedi grinding off of Kashyyyk. I know it happens, but I never come across them



I understand what you seem to be trying to get at, but Ihighly disagree with your conclusion that most of the jedi on the terminals are SF. Are you telling me that a vast majority of your marks are overt when you find them? I just can't believe that.

It is very easy to get plenty of visibility to get on the terminals without being SF. Running most quest missions that involvekilling NPCs while a jedi will give you more than enough visibility without being SF. Killing Canyon Corsairs to harvest crystals generates visibility. Many who pvp do so via guild wars and generate plenty of visibility without being SF. Killing NPC troopers and pve bases. Eventhose who pvp probably don't remain SFmost of the timeandgo on leave when not looking for trouble. It is often difficult to find anyonewho is SF be they jedi or not. Once you are on the terminals it doesn't matter if you got the visibility in 10 minutes or two hours. You will be on there for days.






I have to disagree with that conclusion as well. I rarely ever go out and PvP with my jedi because I don't like the idea of a BH getting an easy db on me when someone else does the work (which is a widely used and valid BH tactic). I get BH visits all the time and to stay on topic a bit I was ganked this weekend by 2 BH which is fine but when bauwer, one of the BH, resorted to exploiting through cloak that crossed the line for me. Not only do I get a 2v1 gank but one of the BH still has to exploit. That is quite sad.



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LordMarr
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:52 pm
#32

At this year's Fan Fest i know a Developer said that they want the BH vs. Jedi to be mostly one on one. The DEV also said that its possible for more than one BH to have the same mission but wanted it to be uncommon.


The real issue i think manyare forgetting,taking the names off the terminals wasn't really for one on one combat. It was done becausemany padawans had complained that there were being griefed bh bounty hunters who would refresh the terminals til they got their mission so they were in constant jeopardy thus unable to play. They didnt want a BH to constantly take the same mission over and over on the same jedi. So we have the names removed and it takesso long of a time to get a name that it isnt worth the time to keep taking missions til you got the person you are looking for.
omismiha
Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:56 pm
#33



skyfiiire wrote:
As far as the FRS being completely dead...I currently play on Test Center, and the FRS is active there still, even with Publish 24 active.






probably already been said, but thats the old frs with the old converted mods. that is not the new FRS
ZabrakWreckingCrew3
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:09 pm
#34

in my opinion it is a lil unfair to have a 3 v 1. since i am a jedi i know this since it happend to me once and i didnt have a chanceto do anything. And when you arnt a finished temp it is really hard and i dont even have any defender.





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