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Thread: -=BOSS MARKS ARE IMPOSSIBLE=- *PLEASE SEE VIDEO INSIDE*

Anarchicgorilla
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:32 pm
#27


Just watched the video... are you using a speed pup with like -40 accuracy???



You missed amost every shot I saw (athough screen movement prevented me from seeing most)


I did also notice the body / adv crit combo used... body shot has -25% hit ratio....


If so this could be why


Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 10-19-2005 10:34 PM



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CakeSeeker
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:33 pm
#28

So i havent seen the video yet, but i dont think you havent tried anything to get it down.


So i can only suggest to everyone to post in Samous Thread about it.


I am fine with the new marks but for all who arent should post there. So its easier for the Correspondent to get informations from people who killed them and who could not kill them.


have a nice day..


Anarchicgorilla
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:42 pm
#29






emovamalla wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:

Just watched the video... are you using a speed pup with like -40 accuracy???



You missed amost every shot I saw (athough screen movement prevented me from seeing most)



If so this could be why








SAC pup, I am speed capped @ 1.0 speed BUT...


1) My FWG is featherweight w/ +15 acuracy built in


2) My FWG has a 62 accuracy bonus


3) Accuracy bonus, does not, never has, and never will work. You can have -34895739 accuracy bonus and it does not matter. It has been well documented in the WS forums and reported.






Not for hit chance.. i have personally tested this with a 62 accuracy carb and -40 accurccy carb (from pups) while i noticed no dmg differnce... I did notice a big diffence in number of times I hit




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emovamalla
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:43 pm
#30






Anarchicgorilla wrote:





emovamalla wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:

Just watched the video... are you using a speed pup with like -40 accuracy???



You missed amost every shot I saw (athough screen movement prevented me from seeing most)



If so this could be why








SAC pup, I am speed capped @ 1.0 speed BUT...


1) My FWG is featherweight w/ +15 acuracy built in


2) My FWG has a 62 accuracy bonus


3) Accuracy bonus, does not, never has, and never will work. You can have -34895739 accuracy bonus and it does not matter. It has been well documented in the WS forums and reported.






Not for hit chance.. i have personally tested this with a 62 accuracy carb and -40 accurccy carb (from pups) while i noticed no dmg differnce... I did notice a big diffence in number of times I hit






I'm going to have to disagree on this but regardless. My pistol (and rifle) had POSITIVE accuracy bonus



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ekimocyc006
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:44 pm
#31

my build is mbm mp mm rifleman 3xxx


the fact is for my temp to live thru these is to have 8k energy resist and kinetic armor ,since i can't wear battle and i prefer my temp where it is, 2 diffrent psg same one kinetic one energy. that with food good rifle pistol if they persu melee you have to run 250m away from where the mark stand, to loose combant to change armor then reattack.


i know this cuase i did 2 reg missions. first one was 17k health mark.i was wearing normal energy resist armor 6.8k resist with mark 3 psg. attacked themark with root first.did dmg untilroot worethen he closed in all the way and went melee.i ran away some after kd he would shoot but if you stopped he would go for melee. pretty much like the video. so i am running away figure after 125 from his spot he would retreat, nope kept coming till he incapped me. got up change armor to 6.7k kin composit armor. dmg was little low but not much.


sincethemarkwas armor breaking meand useing somemeleeself buffsor something to do more dmg and intimidated me,as well the usual kd along with roots and snares. just ripping into me fast with 300 to 500 dmg, usingduelist stance and intimidated i could reduce the dmg to about 100 to mid 200. that was melee dmg. his range with my energy armor was 100 or less but it would, but it kept coming for me to go melee since it could do more dmg to me.


basically had to kite to kill and these where silver mark.


my second mark was 20k healthone. i pulled out my 8k energy resist armor, same thing mark would run up to me and go melee. i didn't change armor so i just kitedit kept snare witch didlittle slow but some androotedit alot." note root cooldown timer is shorter". won that . long and tough but there retreat range in both cases at 250m before it was alot shorter.


i can see for my build and other that might be similiar fighting boss marks the 30k health ones can be donewith top resist armor, armor break sliced,and have good speed and accuracy ca's and aa's. i could win it i think with my build.




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DblClkThatShi
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:45 pm
#32

im master bh master cm pistols 0400


i use paralyze to stack the att slower mod shock and electrolyte drain , set him on fire, disease, and a bleed.


then i dragged the 32k ham mark into a nest of level 82 pickets and let him agro them all, he actually seemed to start to do more dmg the more his life dropped.


he still killed me with the like 6 pickets agroed to him and my combat droid, while i was cloning i got the message that i completed my task.


i road my speeder to where he was hoping his body was still there but nothing but a couple of dead pickets.



so i guess everyone needs change there templates to squad leader or drag one arround with u even thogh they cant help u attack your mark.


i think swg should nerf everything and then make the game 10 times harder , oh wait they already did that .....derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr





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acmtalk
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:49 pm
#33

well, I didnt watch the video, But shouldnt They be strong? They are Boss Marks right?



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CakeSeeker
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:00 pm
#34


Oh and one thing to mention..so at least i could see the video.


You alternate in this video your slowest three Specials, you may try adv Crit, adv Quickdraw and Ranged shot.


Just give it a try, maybeits a nice combination you like...



have a nice day..


Message Edited by CakeSeeker on 10-19-2005 09:01 PM

emovamalla
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 pm
#35






CakeSeeker wrote:


Oh and one thing to mention..so at least i could see the video.


You alternate in this video your slowest three Specials, you may try adv Crit, adv Quickdraw and Ranged shot.


Just give it a try, maybeits a nice combination you like...



have a nice day..



Message Edited by CakeSeeker on 10-19-2005 09:01 PM





Eh, I find that at speed cap that Critical, Body, Torso works best for me.


/shrug different strokes for different folks





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CakeSeeker
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:13 pm
#36

Just give ita try. My Template is also MBH / MP and just another tree in Combat Medic ..


have a nice day..


Lexo333
Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:54 pm
#37


I Havent played since after pub 24,so i cant say there impossible to beat or not.


But from watching your film i noticed a few things.


1) he cant hit you when he is knocked down. i saw you knocked him over once throughout the whole fight,every time i can i knock em down and hit em with my heaviest shot it seems to do alot more damage to my mark when he is on his back.


2) I noticed you were snared a few times and he was chasing you with his melee weapon,thats when i woulda rooted him with the stopping shot you had on your bar then maybe KD'd him andthen got some distance between he and i.


3) Make a looping macro to constantly run Duelist stance the def helps.


I noticed he would go into melee attack when you were clkose,myself i wear energy layered battle armor so i never get within melee range i let myt armor do what its suppossed to do,protect against energy.


Im a diff BH build than yourself,MBH/MC/pistoleer 4003 and have always done pretty good against the pre pub 24 35k ham marks,ive been knocked around a few times and occassionaly have to take the disgracefull trip to the cloner,but i am looking forward to fighting one of the new boss marks,looks rather exciting.


Oh and yea my food buff choice is diff from yours but i noticed you didnt have any spice in your system.


And last i will say this i watched the clip 3 times and it seemed his health and action did regen at a crazy pace,i mean crazy pace.


I do agree that boss marks should be tough by all means they are THE BOSS But not like unbeatable,so ill hopefully get to play tomorrow and get a few bosses and formulate a better opinion about pub24 either way im happy now i dont have to reset my graphics everytime i log in to play i was told.


emovamalla
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:15 pm
#38






Lexo333 wrote:


I Havent played since after pub 24,so i cant say there impossible to beat or not.


But from watching your film i noticed a few things.


1) he cant hit you when he is knocked down. i saw you knocked him over once throughout the whole fight,every time i can i knock em down and hit em with my heaviest shot it seems to do alot more damage to my mark when he is on his back.


Watch the video a 4th time. I tried to lay down 11 KD's.I counted 11 CLEARLY animatedKD attempts.11 KD's in a 5:30 fight sounds nothing short of perfect to me. Unfortunately most my KD's missed.


I have KD on a 30 second /tell macro. Works greatwhen I don't use my KD recover that has /dump and /clearcombatqueue on it.


2) I noticed you were snared a few times and he was chasing you with his melee weapon,thats when i woulda rooted him with the stopping shot you had on your bar then maybe KD'd him andthen got some distance between he and i.


Everytime that I was in melee, I was either snared or busy healing and my Stopping Shot missed more often than not. I did root him successfully 3 times (I think... didn't think to count really)


3) Make a looping macro to constantly run Duelist stance the def helps.


Works great normally. I have a macro for that. Unfortunately I don't like to use it anymore because of the /dump in the KD recover I have. BTW, W/O the KD recover commands, I cannot KD recover when KD'd (go figure)


I noticed he would go into melee attack when you were clkose,myself i wear energy layered battle armor so i never get within melee range i let myt armor do what its suppossed to do,protect against energy.


I probably have the same or a higher Kinetic rating on my armor than you. His SWORD uses KINETIC, which I am more suited to protect against than ranged energy. I have a 7500 rating against Kinetic AND Energy (with PSG against Ranged)


Im a diff BH build than yourself,MBH/MC/pistoleer 4003 and have always done pretty good against the pre pub 24 35k ham marks,ive been knocked around a few times and occassionaly have to take the disgracefull trip to the cloner,but i am looking forward to fighting one of the new boss marks,looks rather exciting.


Oh and yea my food buff choice is diff from yours but i noticed you didnt have any spice in your system.


Yeah, again. This was my FIRST instance of this. I was prepared for a pre-24 mark. LOL,but yeah. I would have ideally got buffed and done some booster blue on top of my food. In this instance, it would have not mattered IMHO


And last i will say this i watched the clip 3 times and it seemed his health and action did regen at a crazy pace,i mean crazy pace.


I do agree that boss marks should be tough by all means they are THE BOSS But not like unbeatable,so ill hopefully get to play tomorrow and get a few bosses and formulate a better opinion about pub24 either way im happy now i dont have to reset my graphics everytime i log in to play i was told.











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andyyyyy
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:02 pm
#39

Y ah i got the 34k ham down to about 1/4 and he killed me because i had no mind left




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