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Thread: Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?

MasterOfEverything
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:15 pm
#27






Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.


Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.


I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.


If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.


What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like



  1. Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

  2. Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

  3. None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.







QFE


the devs shouldnt even LOOK at the Bounty Hunter profession, they shouldnt even begin to THINK about yet another FRS...until they finally fix the smugglers. What the devs have done in regard to the smuggler profession has been an embarresment, and I almost feel bad to have so much content while the smugglers have very, very little.

MasterOfEverything
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:17 pm
#28

and i'm not saying I dont appreciate the extra attention we seem to be getting, but honestly...go over to the smuggler boards. Those guys would kill to see a red name.

Ciridian
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:23 pm
#29



Blixtev wrote:

Plus with nice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?






Smugglers who would like to smuggle?



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TitanTen
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:23 pm
#30






Blixtev wrote:



Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.


It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.


Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?







Blix. This is the type of stuff that can keep making this game better and better. Thanks.



Now get to work on armorsmith if you want to see lame





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Owen-Lars
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:25 pm
#31



Blixtev Wrote:


"It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized"






Sorry to invade.


Blix? I challenge you to play a Ranger next weekend and give it your opinion


If you can decide to make changes to a system by playing a profession i still have hope for rangers. Give it a few mins of your time and we will be on the way to getting our revamp.



Message Edited by Owen-Lars on 07-23-2005 10:26 PM



THORTAC BALCOR
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RANGER
Uninformed
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:32 pm
#32







Owen-Lars wrote:



Blixtev Wrote:


"It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized"






Sorry to invade.


Blix? I challenge you to play a Ranger next weekend and give it your opinion


If you can decide to make changes to a system by playing a profession i still have hope for rangers. Give it a few mins of your time and we will be on the way to getting our revamp.




Message Edited by Owen-Lars on 07-23-200510:26 PM






And the same goes for Wielder-based Jedi templates. Blix, have you played one in pvp/pve lately? We are god awful. And the Force Speed nerf is weakening an already horrible Jedi tree because no one put speed modifiers in Wielder.


Do you want all Jedi to become MLS/M Def to PvP? Because all of the signals are in that direction.





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Osuss
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:33 pm
#33






Blixtev wrote:





Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.


Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.


I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.


If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.


What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like



  1. Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

  2. Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

  3. None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.







Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.


It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.


Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?








Ok this guy has my vote for being cool lol... cuz you'd never catch me comming into work over the weekend and I love my job lol





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Datink_Nieleft
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:34 pm
#34






Quiet420 wrote:

Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?


because smugglers have last ditch and are unwilling to give it up.


the BH's are a little different, when the subject of the changes to the missions came up, several reasonable voices chimed in after recognizing the need for change....those that were countering the arguement, for the most part, ended up being proof that the system needed to change.


when smugglers are willing to give up 1hit incaps (which should be prettysoon) they'll get the code that is already in development







Wow,..you obviously have no clue. Ladies and Gentlemen...this is why NO one likes Jedi.





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SioBabble
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:36 pm
#35

Blix, I'd like to apologize for my last post.


You ARE trying to make a difference, and that is appreciated.


But realize something.


There are a LOT of things broken out there, and there is a lot of player anger about this situation.


You don't deserve to be the focus of it because you saw something you thought needed to be fixed in your area of expertise.


But I have to wonder.


What the heck is going on in other areas? Is there ANY effort on the part of management to steer developer attention to the laundry list of known issues? Why is it that you're able to affect changes like this, positive changes, while other aspects of the game languish broken, seemingly unattended and without any concern at all?


Can you pass the message back up the chain of command that the natives are restless? The smugglers were all in high spirits about their anticipated changes, until when pub 19 went live it was totally different from what they were anticipating they'd see, and the explanation for it was frankly inadquate. A decision had been made that something was "not fun" yet again internally without getting any real feedback from actual players.


So a system that the players did not ask for, were not consulted on, and vehemently protested against went live anyway.


This happens again and again. Changes are sprung that blindside players, and you wonder why they spin conspiracy theories?






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Zombie_Arsani
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:41 pm
#36



Datink_Nieleft wrote:


Quiet420 wrote:
Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?
because smugglers have last ditch and are unwilling to give it up.
the BH's are a little different, when the subject of the changes to the missions came up, several reasonable voices chimed in after recognizing the need for change....those that were countering the arguement, for the most part, ended up being proof that the system needed to change.
when smugglers are willing to give up 1hit incaps (which should be pretty soon) they'll get the code that is already in development



Wow,..you obviously have no clue. Ladies and Gentlemen...this is why NO one likes Jedi.






Eh, Ignore Quiet420, he came over to the smuggler board a while back screaming about LD and we ripped him a new one and then shoved out foot up it. Now he's over here in teh BH board trying to do the same.

Blixtev, thanks for what you've done. My BH half is very happy.

Other Hunters, my Smuggler half thanks you for your support in our desire for content. Here hoping that someday soon you can hunt me...or I can hunt me....or...I'm confused now....



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Thassk
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:44 pm
#37




i also appreciate the loot drops .... i think they actually go a long way to balancing things... with more money we get more equipment with more equipment we are better hunters


ive never disliked jedi ...ive never hunted them maliciously or repeatdely .. i hunted and still do maybe one a week or every few days .. i always enjoyed PVE ... even more so now ...


yesterday i was a bit annoyed after running into a trash talking jedi who seemed to think anyone not a jedi was worthles .. it prompted me to come into the forums and rant a little against the frequency you see those with their proffession and how many of their egos are false in a sense ...


didnt give me a chance to really soak in the changes ..



* ive deleted the rest of this post where i ask in detail about loot drops..... ill just enjoy them how they are : ) .. and choose not to pick at positive enhancments to the game * : D


ty blixtev : )

Message Edited by Thassk on 07-23-2005 03:03 PM



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QuiJonOz
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:46 pm
#38


Blixtev wrote:





Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.

It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.


Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?






As someone who has worked salary, I appreciate this. You are putting in extra effort and communicating with us on your own time. I look forward to the new Marks (and loot). Sure, there are still issues, but you've taken it upon yourself to do something for us and are doing a better job of communicating with us than the people paid to do so.





No decay + uber loot = /spit on crafters

Fix the economy and give crafters their $$$ worth... give us real revamp.

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Lotussutol
Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:57 pm
#39






Blixtev wrote:





Hasun wrote:

This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.


Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.


I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.


If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.


What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like



  1. Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms

  2. Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names

  3. None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP

All that will happen after this patchis ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etchate us.







Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.


It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, andfixed it up in my freetime.


Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus withnice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?








blix...thanks for the post...wish you could slap the communications department around and get them posting information...posts with info like this should be coming from the communications department more often and not from the actual devs since you guys and gals are busy coding!


sucks...you coding devs catch crap for lack of communication when that is TIGGS/TH department.


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