Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: 210k Jedi yesterday is 140k Jedi today?
Althus_Alen
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:56 pm
#27
Jeez everything has to be an exploit with you people.
The Jedi in question was killed by a BH, that lowers his bounty for a period (it's bugged though so doesn't always work as it's meant to). The bounty creeps back up over 3 days I believe. At least read the FAQ's after you repec to BH 
Speaking of respec, respec'ing novice boxes was NOT an exploit. A dev posted about it before the CU was released and said it was a perfectly acceptable side effect of the system they chose. Anyone using it is not exploiting. You might not like it, but that does not make it an exploit.
VTmoon
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:59 pm
#28
Chiper12 wrote:
OhBuggah wrote:
Yesterday I hunted a Jedi and he was worth 210k. I killed him. Today I hunted the same one, but he was only worth 140k. Does anyone know what's up with this? I'm pretty sure he was 210k yesterday because I record all the Jedi I kill.
He could of had alot of low level boxes for respec
hit it on the head with a hammer.
SBgHz
Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:18 am
#29
VTmoon wrote:
sadly it's not exploiting, it's taking advantage of a messed up system. YAY for the devs.
That is exacty what exploiting is. Cheating is one step further making something not work as intended or designed, exploiting could be using something as designed even if that design is stupid and poorly thought out so as to yield and unintended result.
The sad thing is that this games coders (they are not developers - that title implies vision and thouroughness that these idiots at SOE do not have) are famous for poorly thoguh out ideas and even more poorly tested ideas leaving PLENTY of eploits for all to abuse.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:04 am
#30
That is a double standard. It's not "ok" with you that Jedi do it, but you "don't care" when a non-Jedi does it.
SBgHz wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
SBgHz wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
It's only an exploit if Jedi do it. Ask any BH, they'll be happy to tell you.
It is an exploit no matter who does it - diferance is that I don't care if some rifleman or AS does it cuase they cannot get 3x the power doing it that Jedi can and because every time another person reaches Mast Rifles or Mast Pistols or whatever the game doesn't take one more step backwards like it does everytime a new JK arrives.
Two words for you.
Double. Standard.
How did I suggest a double standard? I said it was an exploit no matter who does it. I only pointedout that non Jedi doing it doesn't ruin my game like it does when jedi doing, IMHO, making the fact that TONS of Jedi are doing ita more severe problem for me and the whole of the game.
VTmoon
Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:01 pm
#31
sadly it's not exploiting, it's taking advantage of a messed up system. YAY for the devs.
SBgHz wrote:
Spookibus wrote:
He's using a feature of the respec. He traded two lower-level boxes for one high level box.
I haven't seen the numbers for Jedi, but here's how it worked for me.
I filled two tier-1 boxes for carbineer at 175k apiece, that's 350k xp.
I respec'd them for the master rifle box, that's a MILLION xp.
I saved 650k and wound up with skill points to spare. Because I majored in math in college, it took me about 10 seconds to figure that one out, and use the system to get my master box in less than half the time. Exploit? No. I utilized a feature of the system the Devs put in place.
Your Jedi target obviously did something similar.
That's the way the system is designed.
At least you admit to exploiting - jeez, people don't even hide it anymore, how sad has this game gotten?
Tufel_Hunden
Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:20 pm
#32
Althus_Alen wrote:Jeez everything has to be an exploit with you people.The Jedi in question was killed by a BH, that lowers his bounty for a period (it's bugged though so doesn't always work as it's meant to). The bounty creeps back up over 3 days I believe. At least read the FAQ's after you repec to BHSpeaking of respec, respec'ing novice boxes was NOT an exploit. A dev posted about it before the CU was released and said it was a perfectly acceptable side effect of the system they chose. Anyone using it is not exploiting. You might not like it, but that does not make it an exploit.
Link please!
SBgHz
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:20 pm
#33
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
That is a double standard. It's not "ok" with you that Jedi do it, but you "don't care" when a non-Jedi does it.
SBgHz wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
SBgHz wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
It's only an exploit if Jedi do it. Ask any BH, they'll be happy to tell you.
It is an exploit no matter who does it - diferance is that I don't care if some rifleman or AS does it cuase they cannot get 3x the power doing it that Jedi can and because every time another person reaches Mast Rifles or Mast Pistols or whatever the game doesn't take one more step backwards like it does everytime a new JK arrives.
Two words for you.
Double. Standard.
How did I suggest a double standard? I said it was an exploit no matter who does it. I only pointedout that non Jedi doing it doesn't ruin my game like it does when jedi doing, IMHO, making the fact that TONS of Jedi are doing ita more severe problem for me and the whole of the game.
You are either an idiot or you cannot read - I said clear that it is wrong whenever anyone does it, it is exploiting. I said that it only AFFECTS me when Jedi do it so that is of more import given the topic at hand. For example, since you struggle with reading comprehensions, I think robbery is wrong. but when I go to the police stationI am asking if they caught the guy who stole my stuff and not necessarily checking on some other guys case progress.
Mr_Desert
Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:25 pm
#34
More importantly than all the crap that has been posted previously.
You hunted them yesterday then again today...
Not enough jedi on your server for a bit of variety?
Althus_Alen
Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:15 pm
#35
Tufel_Hunden wrote: Link please!
I assume you mean for the Dev about respec.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=cudiscussiontemp&message.id=4342#M4342
Was mentioned a few times, there is one instance.
Llazarus
Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:55 am
#36
Tufel_Hunden wrote:
He's exploiting...sigh...
Devs said its working as intended.
Zhaal
Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:05 am
#37
OhBuggah wrote:Yesterday I hunted a Jedi and he was worth 210k. I killed him. Today I hunted the same one, but he was only worth 140k. Does anyone know what's up with this? I'm pretty sure he was 210k yesterday because I record all the Jedi I kill.
Sounds like he's done what i'm tempted on doing, dropping useless jedi skills to pick up a combat profession like rifleman or pistoleer and keeping master defender.
If i did that, I'd drop from 225k to 89k on the boards and be alot more effective in combat. And it wouldn't matter much my force pool would be lower, as a jedi i don't seem to use it much any more for my specials, action/mind are my problems..
Message Edited by Zhaal on 06-22-2005 12:09 PM
MrDoppa
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:15 am
#38
Tufel_Hunden wrote:
Caelrie wrote:
Everything you people don't like is an exploit. It's probably an exploit every time I throw my saber at some BH.
Like the people bragging about grinding out a full template jedi in a month using this? That's not exactly how the jedi grinding system was designed to work. It was designed to be a slow , painful process that most of us jedi had to endure. The respec exploiting is why I sold my jedi last month. Last straw for me. Jedi are worthless now as far as I'm concerned.
Not for nothing. But you said, and I paraphrase "the system wasnt meant to be used this way" but you sold your jedi?
???
MrDoppa
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:16 am
#39
SBgHz wrote:
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:
It's only an exploit if Jedi do it. Ask any BH, they'll be happy to tell you.
It is an exploit no matter who does it - diferance is that I don't care if some rifleman or AS does it cuase they cannot get 3x the power doing it that Jedi can and because every time another person reaches Mast Rifles or Mast Pistols or whatever the game doesn't take one more step backwards like it does everytime a new JK arrives.
unbelievable.