Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: 4 out of 5 Jedi recommend exploiting on a regular basis....
BuzzardBoy wrote:
Is ittruly an "exploit" when we run into houses? I know the TEF is being worked on, but for the time being I think its legit isn't it? Anyway get stopping or concussion shot and hit them with it when they are almost in the house.
There was a time when just using your glowstick in public instatef'd you to EVERYONE.
UndaKuva wrote:
go ahead and laugh then.
true, the internet IS not real, its a place where people don't act as they would in RL. but i would really like to know what % of players are female compared to what % of the marks that you choose are female. that would be an interesting stat.i am a 700+ day player and i have ooodles of hours logged hunting as a jedi and hunting alongside jedi. the fact of the matter is that i have noticed that the female characters are hunted at a higher rate then the male characters. u probably dont even notice it because its part of your subliminal decision making. u see a jedi named "Conkrete" on the terms and pass on him in favor of "Mareenia".
UndaKuva wrote:go ahead and laugh then.
true, the internet IS not real, its a place where people don't act as they would in RL. but i would really like to know what % of players are female compared to what % of the marks that you choose are female. that would be an interesting stat. i am a 700+ day player and i have ooodles of hours logged hunting as a jedi and hunting alongside jedi. the fact of the matter is that i have noticed that the female characters are hunted at a higher rate then the male characters. u probably dont even notice it because its part of your subliminal decision making. u see a jedi named "Conkrete" on the terms and pass on him in favor of "Mareenia".
Ummm, no. You have and will make your own assumptions. Names have NO bearing on who I hunt. I believe I even stated BEFORE you posted, that there was another Jedi I WAS going to hunt in my search for "the 5", but couldn't because he (admittedly) was only online briefly. I favor 180K and less Jedi. That's the fact. There is nothing "subliminal" about my decisions. Quite to the contrary, my decisions are VERY deliberate, just not based on "perceived" gender, but only on payout and online status.
Ombra
While I failed to get the "attack" in this screenshot (the idea of testing how many Jedi exploit this system had yet to occur to me), this Jedi attacked me 3 times. Missed twice and hit once for 130. Shortly after, she went running for the house about 2K away. She logged out shortly after.
Caledor
Hats off to this guy. I accidentally did an area attack while he was running away and aggroed a big mob of Boll pack runners. They actually DBd me, and I cloned. When I went BACK to fight, he stood his ground as best he could. I finally caught him in the water on his way to shuttle out of MO on Dant. He wa the lowest level Jedi I met last night, and the only one to stand his ground.
Lokiandrea
This one was funny. Found her about 1.5K away from her house. I lagged right past her and had to turn around to start attacking. For about the next hour she would run out of the house, attack, run in the house to heal, run back out to attack, run...well you get the picture. She logged off when some of my DOTs starting doing serious damage and she couldn't heal strong enough to continue coming out to fight.
Spock
I saw the name and just HAD to try and go kill this guy. Found him grinding about 800m away from his house. He started a good fight, but alas, like the rest,found it better to run inside. Logged out shortly after.
Jackelynn
She was the BEST fight of the night. WOW! She had some really cool force powers and incapped me twice. On the second incap, she got arrogant though, and started to bow as she watched the DB timer count down. I did manage to get up and heal enought o continue the fight. Without the DB warm up, or lag, I would have been dead right there. We continued to fight about 3 minutes more, but I think the paralyze and heals starting playing "mind games" with her, or her Force was running low (she used A LOT fo Force), maybe both. Damn that Force Choke hurts, and I think it's acts like a stasis as well, i couldn't heal while shewas choking me. At any rate, in then end, she got to her house. I had a long night, and stood there when she came back out to get the "quick ride" home. I was too tired to do another round of "Lokiandrea" to waste time until she logged out in the house.
So there you have it folks. This is what Bounty Hunting has come down to for me. I guess I should have used better tactics though right? I should have waited till all these Jedi were 10K away from their house, riiight? Like that would ever happen. 5 Jedi....Killed one, and the rest hid. Gotta love it.
On a side note....if anyone thinks I'm lying just ask for it latter, I have the screenshots (I'm tired now), I asked all 4 hiding Jedi if they knew it was an exploit to run into a house after attacking a BH? 3 said yes. I asked if they would do it again if I "come back", all 4 said yes.
It's a GOOD TIME to be a BH...
BuzzardBoy wrote:Is it truly an "exploit" when we run into houses? I know the TEF is being worked on, but for the time being I think its legit isn't it? Anyway get stopping or concussion shot and hit them with it when they are almost in the house.
Yes...without a doubt it is STILL an exploit. The reason it is still an exploit is because it is a "bug" that was acknowledged at Fan Fest by the Devs as an action that is not intentional. There has been no timeline for a fix, but the mere fact that there is a "fix" for this would confirm that once a player "uses" this bug, it then becomes an exploit.
BTW, I looked for you tonight. I WAS going to hunt you? Would you have ran into a house after attacking a BH?
Message Edited by BuzzardBoy on 06-17-2005 12:46 AM
It's not an exploit as long as the jedi doesn't attack back. But once you do, if you run back in the house your abusing the broken TEF rules
I'm sorry, I misunderstood at first. I thought he was saying running into a house at all was an exploit. As I said in my second post, if I fought back I would stay for the fight, but as of now I will just run.
Let me ask you this, though: If I were to run in without attacking, heal up and regen some force, then come back out and fight, is that ok?
Kystan wrote:the question you should be asking is " is it still an exploit if soe knows about it and does nothing to fix it ? "they dont ban exploiters so why not cheat like all the other jedi?all the cool kids are exploiting why not ?pathetic.. of COURSE its an exploit to attack then run into a house..
I think this is all out liability. I believe they are "working on it", at least in so much as they know were the problem stems from. According to Tanks, as told to him by the Devs at FF, is has something to do with the GCW TEF system. Sounds like BS to me, but for now, at least they have said it is not intentional. As for banning players that do this....I don't know about that. It's a real catch 22...you would have to prove that each Jedi that does this KNEW it was an exploit. Hell, it's been around for so long now, I believe half the Jedi profession thinks it some sort of "Jedi perk", and theyare suppose to be able to do it. Banning someone for this is alot different then watching someone doing a "credit dupe". Some things are an obvious exploit, other are not. I do think that when they openly admit they will exploit it again after they have the knowledge, as 3 of them did tonight, I think something should be done. Maybe not an outright ban, but a suspension. Problem is....with SO many jedi doing it, it would only tax CSRs more, and we all know how effective CSRs are, right?
This is why i have pushed Tanks as hard as I have *for more communication about Dev response to our issues. I really want the entire Jedi community to KNOW it's an exploit, so there can be no mistake about this issue when it happen 100's of times a night. After all, do oyu know how many jedi actually thought Stopping Shot was being exploited becuase it didn't break on damage?
I'm really tired now...
Message Edited by Tucheck on 06-17-2005 03:56 AM