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Thread: 4 out of 5 Jedi recommend exploiting on a regular basis....
UndaKuva wrote:
1. so basically u are like any other BH in that u specifically target players that u think are female because u feel that women are inferior players to males. this is not news.
i have been out hunting w/ female players and they are hunted waaay more often then men, especially if u look at the fact that male players overall outnumber women across the board. its sad and its awful.
2.
the one jedi that didnt run died.
that shows u that if a jedi wants to live they have to run. jedi have no power until they master a profession. yes, he was brave, but he is now officially in the hole too.bravery gets you nothing but a screenshot of your corpse floating in water.
Message Edited by UndaKuva on 06-17-2005 02:48 AM
1. You don't attack a player but a character. Not all his examples are female characters, and even if they were, they could belong to male players.
2. There's a difference between escaping in fair way and escaping with the help of an exploit. What BH are complaining about here is not the fact that some Jedi escape from engagement ; it's the fact that they use exploits (in the present case, the TEF bug) to escape. What you are saying is that if a Jedi wants to live he has to cheat.
SGARimmer wrote:
You know whats even more frustrating
incapping a friggin jedi infront of a building and seeing one of his lame ass dr friends drag him iside.
Uhm, the TEF rules don't allow this, so what you saw was probably lag. Don't blame us for that.
Caelrie wrote:
Camelz wrote:
When did the terminals start showing the sex of the mark? I missed that patch I think. Anyway I thought most female toons belonged to 53yo males IRL.
Is PMT off topic in here?
I have no idea if this hunting thing is true or not, but if you wanted to know the sex of the Jedi, it's pretty easy to tell by the name on the terminal.
If it is true, it's probably because many male players assume most female players are inferior at the game. If any of those guys hunted me because of my name, they must have been embarrassed afterwards.
It might explain why the only bounty hunter to EVER take my mission twice was a female too. The rest never came back.
maybe they were just afraid of cooties
drfeelgood9 wrote:
you failed to comment of the jedi's you were attacking levels or payouts...what do u expect these guys to do, go out in a middle of a starport and spam "hey i am low level and i am on the terminals, in the bathroom, getting a sandwich, so please dont attack me cause i dont have any defender"? they survive by doing what they have too. quit crying about they ran in a house, the are grinding on kash. if you want to hunt jedi, go for the 200k or above. they are bored to death and even paying bh to come for them. a few bh i have ran across have been proffesionals, the rest are whinny little babies wanting an instant kill button or just like grieving jedi to full fill some void in their real life.
Yes sureeee, LETS ALL SOLO JED KNIGHTS. Yea, we should be able to, it's not like they're much more powerfull than we are, and it's not like they have anything to lose anymore.
Seriously, I hunt Jedi for cash, and for the XP loss. Knights don't fear XP loss anymore and they are too powerfull for a BH to solo them under normal circumstances (except when they're in a big PvP Battle or somewhat, but I need cash so I can't waste too much time per bounty).
I normally hunt from 120 to 180k and I don't think those are low level paddies. Sometimes I hunt 100k when noone else is online, but I don't do it often cause the pay ain't good and they might have some nasty non-Jedi skills (rifles anyone?
).So just shutup about BHs hunting lowbies Jedi. It's stupid and doesn't pay well.
And don't tell us to hunt 200k++ Jedi solo, because those arent supposed to be soloable and don't come to me with the "stalk the prey and hit on the precise moment" crap, because I only have so much time to play and I need to make cash for armor, foods, spices and weapons.
P.S.: Running inside a house AFTER you attacked the BH IS an exploit and should be bannable. Sure, act like a girl and run like hell, but if you do, then don't fight back.
DiggyNO wrote:
YOU ARE MY INSPIRATION, MIGHTY BOOTY HUNTER GOD!!!!
I will try and do something similar tonight, for statistics sake - I'm sure I can do much worse, like 19/20 jedi hiding.
And a response, yes we have, indeed:
BuzzardBoy wrote:
Let me ask you this, though: If I were to run in without attacking, heal up and regen some force, then come back out and fight, is that ok?
Why? Leave your house out of it. But it's definitely "acceptable" compared to hiding in a house and perhaps even logging out.
This question is a hard one, but I suppose it's very ok. We come prepared and you guys are usually grinding with all your mighty friends, which leaves the potential for you being severely hurt.
If you have full bars, excluding force, stand up and fight! If not, go in and do your jedi stuff and then come to fight.
Don't EVER hide (and logout), we WILL be back and become ever more ruthless and callous. We WILL monitor your characters on/off-line status and if you're silly enough to come and taunt us with your alt, we may just monitor that too.
I am currently on a 32k target, who I caught up to on Tatooine. This was first intented to test a new approach (startout-move, beginning shot, whatever), but now it has become a personal manhunt - hiding in your house gains you nothing: No bounty-removal, no respect, no XP, no nothing, except a "wimp"-check on the bounties list, which means it will be the nasty ones coming after you, who does it for the sake of you being very lowlevel, easy-picking and never going positive in Jedi XP again.
QFE -
this is the thinking that is driving the removal of names/bounty amounts from missions. good going.... more thinking like this will probably cause the removal of player bounties.( this may be true, i dont think camping is cool either just let em go ...you might catch up to em another day
RELAX - it's just a game. The mark your hunting is another living person, not some computer controlled content for you. Jedi run because there is no point to stand and fight. NONE AT ALL. If they win, the BH can grab the mission again and again. Plus, fighting only raises the visibility, for more BH's to come. Death does not remove you from the terminals, and it does not erase your visibility, it only brings XP loss.
Agent Smith was right, humans are like viruses - you move into an area and destroy all that is there, then move on. Well, if you constantly do this, soon, there will be no new area to move too....
I laugh at the BH that post here stating "It's our god given right to destroy the Jedi so they don't play anymore...." --- hmmm, if you do "destroy" all the Jedi, who are you going to hunt? NPC's?
I think it's time to do a reality check....
OK first let me say i agree with you ......jedi dont have a reason to fight ... and i consider that tactics in their case ... strategy .....
but your other point .. combined with that point ... fuels an interesting thought for me ..if it is in fact a game ..... and jedi are just regular players ... just another regular profession to play ....why isnt there another elite class , offered to counter jedi? ....
jedi in this game are special ....to be true to the star wars universe the devs made them above other professions ... they didnt get an equal, its like the movies....so one thing i ask jedi to do ( they can run all they want .. i wont look down at them for it ...) but the one thing i ask jedi to do is ponder this ...
many of us are roleplayers .. in love with the movies ...we would like to see jedi act noble and courageous ....the fact that they are a special alpha class and no one gets to be as powerful says that the devs too respect the "purist" state of star wars ... they didnt include other professions to combat jedi ....but if jedi arent going to act like we percieved them ....if they are going to act the same as the rest of us ... regular people trying to save their own butts .. and only fight when they feel they have power over others ... well it offsets the "pure" visions of starwars ... it effectively rendered that vision obsolete ... ( not all some jedido roleplay the profession quite well , and try to stand up to all fights, and act noble
but many also dont .. they are just regular players with regular attitudes looking for an edge ... talking trash .. same as the rest of us scum...
all im saying is ... since the purist state is already moot ... i would like to see the devs say "to heckwith purist star wars and lets just go crazy make this game awesome fun"
i would love to buy an expansion in the future ... that adds new elite combat proffessions ... to add a little variety and flavor to the end game ....
And as to the one question that a jedi had about running inside, healing up and then coming back outside to fight: I have no problem with that because you haven't violated any rules or exploited any bugs.
Message Edited by Prefect42 on 06-17-2005 07:15 AM
Let's start with the "worst....hijack....attampt....ever".
The mere notion that I decide who to hunt based on a Jedi name being feminine or masculine is laughable (and I really DID laugh). It was something I hadn't even noticed until UndaKuva point out that 3 of the 5 Jedi last night were female. What I find even more amusing is that UndaKuva has a sig stating "THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL". Is this not a contridiction? To make a statement in these forums that just because a name is feminine, then the player themselves MUST be female in real life, yet have a sig like that is hilarious. The way I hunt Jedi is completely random, from start to finish. I do not bother with any Jedi over 200K now. I don't care about faction. All I look for is ANY Jedi under 200K and online. It really was a pathetic attempt at a redirect from the orginal topic. You, UndaKuva, see 3 female Jedi in this thread that exploited the Jedi-BH structure TEF. I see 4 Jedi in this thread that exploited. The mere fact that you took notice of the "in game sex" of the player says more about you then I care to focus on in this thread.
As for johnmalm77, I have tried countless times and failed more then enough times to see that it is above everything else, a waste of my time. I solo 99% of all my Jedi hunts. The point is this, when you hunt, and even kill a level 80 Jedi, when they clone, they are STILL a level 80 Jedi, and you have done nothing to weaken, or prevent progression of that Jedi. However, when I kill a level 60 Jedi, I know I have added more "time" before they are able to reach "The point of no return". Now you tell me, oh Paddied of mine, which is being a more effective BH? If you want to know the TRUTH about being lazy:
To -Crovaxian-, it has been a LONG time since you have been a BH, has it not? Many "grinding" Jedi rarely go "thousands" of meters from a safe house. Some of them bring a safe house WITH them, and grind XP from the porch. If we were to go back to the "old system" where it wa possible to find grinding on Dathomir, I might agree with your comment. However, this is no longer the case, and you are "out of the loop", or playing dumb. Playing dumb seems to be a Jedi favorite here in the forums. It's like the old feign death of the servers. The biggest difference between us is not that you had to deal with more Pre-CU, I "dealt" with it as well. I do believe I'm one of the few people who can say that my VERY first Jedi mission was a success, NOT becuase I was awesome, but because the jedi gained a "saber TEF" and the mob help take him down (THAT'S how long I've been a BH). No, the difference between us has more to do with the fact that I'M STILL HERE! I'M STILL A MBH! BHs are the "grunts" of SWG, because a grunt can take it, a grunt can take anything. Despite all the nerfs, enduring all the exploits, regardless of the CU changes.....I have not left.
To Caelrie, back to the sexism issue. I'll buy another account and name it Sugarbaby Bottoms to prove this point. I don't believe names accuratly reflect the sex of the real life player MOST of the time.
For Apeik, hunt Knights you say? Well I for one, don't believe a single BH should ever be able to kill a fully templated Jedi. Read above and you will see other reasons stated for basically ignoring level 80 Jedi. I don't EXPECT Jedi to want to fight back, but IF this bug didn't exist, they would have little choice. It is going to be VERY obvious when this bug does get fixed, who is used to being able to run away, and who actually still remembers how to PvP before the grind to level 80.
As for the /duel bug...come on, this has been fixed for months, and was fixed in less then two months of it's discovery. Jedi really need to get over that brief period that some BHs used this exploit. I feel it's worth mentioning that the duel bug wasn't really that complicated. If you were getting attacked, but couldn't attack back, all you had to do was target the player attacking you and type in /duel. It had a counter....the structure TEF has no ability to counter. Oh yeah...and did I mention it's FIXED, and now more Jedi use it then BHs. PLEASE BRING UP THE /DUEL BUG AGAIN
drfeelgood9, you registered that name just over a month ago, and since that time you have amassed over 500 post. this comes to roughly 16 post a day. You are, without a doubt, the BEST troll I have ever seen. I think we have found how you fill some void in your real life. I would try to discuss your post, however, precedence tells me that both courtesy and logic would be wasted. I feel confident even you don't belive your own BS.
Stealer-In, how much do you want to bet that Concussion shot will be fixed before this TEF issue? The Concussion issue appeared MONTHS after the TEF exploit, and will be fixed months in advance. By the time it's fixed, Concussion shot will have had a small fraction of effect as compared to the TEF issue. I agree though that the Concussion issue needs fixed as soon as possible. I don't condone exploiting in any way. However, the existance of one exploit should never overshadow another. Neither one should be allowed.
Well, thats all for now....please keep it coming. I like it when I strike a nerve. It generates more attention....silent or otherwise.
Yet.. at the end of the day, the whole BH/Jedi feud can be seen as the base of the Game at the moment - Flaming each other, because we can.
I mean, there are more Jedi on the Bounty Hunter forum than there are on my server, and theres more respec Bounty Hunters on the Jedi forum than times ive blinked. Something is severely wrong, when at the end of the day, the 'Elite' players of a game look down on those that work to lessen others 'Power' in a game.
The developers and creators of this game didn't do an amazing job at the Combat system, yet we live with it, there is no Star Wars, yet we live with it. There are exploits, yet we Live With It. And that is why, even though you have discovered, from your opinion(which I reckon is widely shared), the majority of Jedi don't want to fight, don't want to do something other than be 'uber'.
Just thought i'd add in my couple of coins of respect for you two, your posts are an inspiration to a fellow Hunter, that has lived with the Exploits, the Uberness, yet stayed here, stayed a Bounty Hunter.
'Cause at the end of the day, this isn't a game - say it all you want, for alot of us, SWG is much much more.