Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: How to fight ppl with super sabers? need advise!
Can u hit a guy with powerattack from 20 meters range?
RoundWallKing wrote:
Cahnuuk wrote:
RoundWallKing wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
How do you fight a guys like this who has a super fast saber?
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=323298&poll_id=0&warned=y
This was just me being sarcastic. Its an example of the new "super macros" that cut cooldown in half. Cooldown for saberthrow for a master lightsaber with imp force speed is 4 seconds, and this guy isnt even master lightsaber. I have tested it with a 700 dps 730 max damage pre-cu saber. I also know how this explot is done, and its so very simple and so very wrong.
Its not an exploit its a bug. This is possible through normal gameplay. Point your finger at the devs and not the player. This is a direct result of lazy programming.
That the literal definition of exploiting BTW. Intentionally using a bug to circumvent the intended operation of the game.
Bah, you are right about that but this bug is almost unavoidable for some people including myself. I am not going to stop alternating between saber power hit and my quicker hitting attacks because the Devs are lazy programmers. Yes some people have macros that make this intentional but the fact that I do it all the time unintentional says somthing about the programming. Stop pointing your finger at me and point it elsewhere.
Mosegris wrote:
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
uhm.. did u guys bother to look at the screenshot i think u missed the point.
Thats not really that much damage it depends on the attacks he uses and AB does alot of damage, it is high but not extremely overpowered. Try your template on some of the higher jedi to test there damage.Uhm look at the timing. Saberthrow every 2 seconds.
I imagine that particular Jedi has saber throw on auto-attack and possibly has force speed applied, I can attack every two seconds on some of the specials. That damage in the screenshot is not too shabby, mine will do at least 200 to 300 points more damage.
Mosegris wrote:
Can u hit a guy with powerattack from 20 meters range?
RoundWallKing wrote:
Cahnuuk wrote:
RoundWallKing wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
How do you fight a guys like this who has a super fast saber?
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=323298&poll_id=0&warned=y
This was just me being sarcastic. Its an example of the new "super macros" that cut cooldown in half. Cooldown for saberthrow for a master lightsaber with imp force speed is 4 seconds, and this guy isnt even master lightsaber. I have tested it with a 700 dps 730 max damage pre-cu saber. I also know how this explot is done, and its so very simple and so very wrong.
Its not an exploit its a bug. This is possible through normal gameplay. Point your finger at the devs and not the player. This is a direct result of lazy programming.
That the literal definition of exploiting BTW. Intentionally using a bug to circumvent the intended operation of the game.
Bah, you are right about that but this bug is almost unavoidable for some people including myself. I am not going to stop alternating between saber power hit and my quicker hitting attacks because the Devs are lazy programmers. Yes some people have macros that make this intentional but the fact that I do it all the time unintentional says somthing about the programming. Stop pointing your finger at me and point it elsewhere.
It's called lag
AD_Maj wrote:
PedricCuff wrote:
Super-sabers will eventually die out once pre-CU sabers become rare.
Until then, the only thing to do is fight as hard as we can or we die in the process.
Its not that. Eh not totally sure on all the componets needed, but items like pearls and crystals are only dropping as "good"
Prememium & Flawless pearls & crystals are the things that make "super sabers"
The thing is they dont drop anymore and I have heard rumors of them dropping again soon.
Thats why the pearls you see that sell for 20 mil each are worth so much. Pre cu you could loot them, now you cant.
Incorrect, anyone can make a decent saber post-cu, it just takes longer without the premium pearls and crystals. It's all about tuning, better crystals have better chances of getting a decent tune, but lower quality ones have a chance of reaching the same levels, just chances are less.
Just be thankfull we don't use any of those uber stone swords that do more damage that and LS. No joke, lol.
chewboywa wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
uhm.. did u guys bother to look at the screenshot i think u missed the point.
Thats not really that much damage it depends on the attacks he uses and AB does alot of damage, it is high but not extremely overpowered. Try your template on some of the higher jedi to test there damage.Uhm look at the timing. Saberthrow every 2 seconds.
I imagine that particular Jedi has saber throw on auto-attack and possibly has force speed applied, I can attack every two seconds on some of the specials. That damage in the screenshot is not too shabby, mine will do at least 200 to 300 points more damage.
RoundWallKing wrote:
Cahnuuk wrote:
RoundWallKing wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
How do you fight a guys like this who has a super fast saber?http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=323298&poll_id=0&warned=y
This was just me being sarcastic. Its an example of the new "super macros" that cut cooldown in half. Cooldown for saberthrow for a master lightsaber with imp force speed is 4 seconds, and this guy isnt even master lightsaber. I have tested it with a 700 dps 730 max damage pre-cu saber. I also know how this explot is done, and its so very simple and so very wrong.
Its not an exploit its a bug. This is possible through normal gameplay. Point your finger at the devs and not the player. This is a direct result of lazy programming.
That the literal definition of exploiting BTW. Intentionally using a bug to circumvent the intended operation of the game.
Bah, you are right about that but this bug is almost unavoidable for some people including myself. I am not going to stop alternating between saber power hit and my quicker hitting attacks because the Devs are lazy programmers. Yes some people have macros that make this intentional but the fact that I do it all the time unintentional says somthing about the programming. Stop pointing your finger at me and point it elsewhere.
Cycling attacks is not the exploit. You should be able to cycle through attacks very quickly. The exploit is using the same attack repeatedly.
chewboywa wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
uhm.. did u guys bother to look at the screenshot i think u missed the point.
Thats not really that much damage it depends on the attacks he uses and AB does alot of damage, it is high but not extremely overpowered. Try your template on some of the higher jedi to test there damage.
Uhm look at the timing. Saberthrow every 2 seconds.
I imagine that particular Jedi has saber throw on auto-attack and possibly has force speed applied, I can attack every two seconds on some of the specials. That damage in the screenshot is not too shabby, mine will do at least 200 to 300 points more damage.
BS BS BS THIS IS AN EXPLOIT NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. He is using a macro to exploit the timer bug and ALL OF YOU LYING JEDI KNOW IT. Stop insulting everyones intelligence. Your claims of "Oh yeah I can do that, its compleeeeteeeely legal." Total crap, if your claiming that this was done legally your most likely exploiting with same macro to bypass the cooldown timers.
Don't be fooled by these exploiters...THEY ARE USING IT, and trying to cover it by claiming this is normal.
Message Edited by Frag99 on 10-07-2005 10:58 AM
i can hit every 1.4 seconds using a bodyhit/lehit/saberhit combo, no different than my bh can do with crit and torsoshot.
Frag99 wrote:
chewboywa wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
uhm.. did u guys bother to look at the screenshot i think u missed the point.
Thats not really that much damage it depends on the attacks he uses and AB does alot of damage, it is high but not extremely overpowered. Try your template on some of the higher jedi to test there damage.
Uhm look at the timing. Saberthrow every 2 seconds.
I imagine that particular Jedi has saber throw on auto-attack and possibly has force speed applied, I can attack every two seconds on some of the specials. That damage in the screenshot is not too shabby, mine will do at least 200 to 300 points more damage.
BS BS BS THIS IS AN EXPLOIT NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. He is using a macro to exploit the timer bug and ALL OF YOU LYING JEDI KNOW IT. Stop insulting everyones intelligence. Your claims of "Oh yeah I can do that, its compleeeeteeeely legal." Total crap, if your claiming that this was done legally your most likely exploiting with same macro to bypass the cooldown timers.
Don't be fooled by these exploiters...THEY ARE USING IT, and trying to cover it by claiming this is normal.
Message Edited by Frag99 on 10-07-2005 10:58 AM
Pday wrote:
i can hit every 1.4 seconds using a bodyhit/lehit/saberhit combo, no different than my bh can do with crit and torsoshot.
Frag99 wrote:
chewboywa wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
Cutlass-Shadowfire wrote:
Mosegris wrote:
uhm.. did u guys bother to look at the screenshot i think u missed the point.
Thats not really that much damage it depends on the attacks he uses and AB does alot of damage, it is high but not extremely overpowered. Try your template on some of the higher jedi to test there damage.
Uhm look at the timing. Saberthrow every 2 seconds.
I imagine that particular Jedi has saber throw on auto-attack and possibly has force speed applied, I can attack every two seconds on some of the specials. That damage in the screenshot is not too shabby, mine will do at least 200 to 300 points more damage.
BS BS BS THIS IS AN EXPLOIT NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. He is using a macro to exploit the timer bug and ALL OF YOU LYING JEDI KNOW IT. Stop insulting everyones intelligence. Your claims of "Oh yeah I can do that, its compleeeeteeeely legal." Total crap, if your claiming that this was done legally your most likely exploiting with same macro to bypass the cooldown timers.
Don't be fooled by these exploiters...THEY ARE USING IT, and trying to cover it by claiming this is normal.
Message Edited by Frag99 on 10-07-2005 10:58 AM
Yes and your alternating your special attacks a legal and acceptable tactic....this guy here was using the same attack over and over, an attack that normally has a 4 second cooldown timer....he is splitting this in 1/2. Most everyone knows the trick of using a faster attacks cooldown timer...I won't go into exactly what the macro is, suffice to say this guy was using it.
The critical issue here is that the exploiters not convince everyone that these kinds of things are a mere result of thier "uber" weapon. Thats crap! Its a result of a known exploit. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THIS SORT OF DISINFORMATION TO GO UNCHALLENGED. It is simply a means of clouding this issue to allow them to continue cheating. SOE needs to fix this, yesterday!
Frankly I have seen worse then this, where people have hit with the exact same high level special at nearly 1 time per sec. If your a BH and you run into one of these Jedi brain doners, just mark them down as DO NOT HUNTS and report them everytime you see them log on 
Message Edited by LordDraconis on 10-07-2005 02:28 PM
LordDraconis wrote:
I have my own little way of dealing with these exploiters....Just watch your combat log when you fight and you can easliy tell if they are using the speedexploit. What I do is root them and run...however I do not drop thier mission. Most of these jedi that exploit like to think they are uber and pvp alot. So just wait till he is low on health or force when he is pvp and incap him and land the db. Its sweeter when you db a jedi that exploits, oh and screen shoot the combat log so you can report him to csr.
Message Edited by LordDraconis on 10-07-2005 02:28 PM
I have already reported this guy, and needless to say he couldnt kill me even with his stupid tricks, so i kept the mission and ask a CSR to contact me in game to witness his exploiting. The sad thing is screenshots are not accepted as proff so they have to catch him in the act, which is nearly impossible unlees a CSR monitors his every move.
Also check out this link with more funny screenshots of this guy.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Infinity&message.id=155833
A number of people posting in here are known exploiters as I have seen them use other exploits and not just cooldown timer exploit. These people need to cheat to feel a sense of worth in this game.
Message Edited by Jakber on 10-07-2005 03:02 PM