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Thread: Oh, so you want to call bounty hunters scum, do you?
Everitt_Cage wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Everitt_Cage wrote:
Thassk wrote:
nice post but the clone troopers were long gone before.. ESB..
other than that hehe i agree with ya
Not quite, check that quote from GL in my last post before this one.
he says there storm troopers were recruited ... because it was cheaper ...i in fact have some posters authorized by lucas as advertisements to his new movies ...not full sized but replicas in a book.. ( and these were used yes .. to advertise some of the movie releases and also for WEST END games ) and they are pretend recruitment advertisementsforyoung adults.. emploring them to join the "imperial navy" and be trained as stormtroopers ...
as you know han solo was also in the service of the empire andatone time wore imperial composite armor ( which iswhat storm trooper and scout trooper armor is in fact considered)
also in the movies when watching the storm troopers and analyzing their behavior they dont act like clones... ( like the two ben kenobi was higing from while in the death star, having a worldly conversation about the new land speeder just put onto the market )..... and when luke was pretending to be one .. none of them took notice in the obvious difference in height between han solo and luke ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-25-2005 12:14 PM
I want you to look at this quote from GL himself, not from any books or posters:
"The idea is that over time, there were new clone strains introduced, and then they even conscripted guys to be Storm Troopers. So it's not just purely clones: It started out as clones, but then it got diluted over the years as they found out they could shanghai guys [more cheaply] than they could build clones."
http://filmforce.ign.com/starwars/articles/613/613366p1.html
Now, note the begining of the 2nd sentence. "So it's not just purely clones". For the STs to not be "purely" clones, that also means they are partly made up of clones. "It got diluted over the years". For the original clone army to havebeen "diluted" it means there are humans mixed in with it, my friend, and according to the 1st sentence, the clones are of various strains by this time, which explains different ST characteristics(such as heigh, voice, etc). To say otherwise is not to argue with me, but with GL, which is really pointless.
Message Edited by Everitt_Cage on 07-25-2005 03:36 PM
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-25-2005 12:47 PM
Thassk wrote:
first lucas doesnt specify a time .. but he clearly states the empire giving up its position on cloning because recruitment was more efficient .... now clones existed even BEFORE the empire there is no doubt that clones were part of the empire as well.. but the question here is whether or not clones made up the imperial army at the time of empire strikes back .. which imho .. it did not .. find me a quote which states it did .. and will happily concede that i was wrong ...
Message Edited by Thassk on 07-25-2005 12:47 PM
Why are we fixated w/ TESB? This game, first of all, takes place before that movie, right after the destruction of the 1st DS, a time period of a couple years. Secondly, while GL says in that quote that recruitment was more efficient, he in no way suggested that the clones that were already in service were taken out of service, which wouldnt make sense anyway, as they would be wasting something they already spent money on growing and training. What that quote does suggest, is that the ST population is a mix of clones and recruits, with possibly no more clones being grown, but the existing ones still being used until at some point in the future the more efficient recruitment option takes over completely. Regardless, those comments were in response to the subject of whether the STs in the OT were clones, and if you go to that website under the quote you'll see that context. Here is a direct quote from that page, including his comments once again:
One bit of conjecture Lucas finally laid to rest was the question of how close the link between clone troopers and stormtroopers was. He told MTV in an interview that the Empire's stormtroopers in the original series were in fact more of the same clones that form the Republican army in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith – though by the time of A New Hope, stormtrooper ranks had swelled to include regular recruits as well.
"The idea is that over time, there were new clone strains introduced, and then they even conscripted guys to be Storm Troopers. So it's not just purely clones: It started out as clones, but then it got diluted over the years as they found out they could shanghai guys [more cheaply] than they could build clones."
Heres that link again if you want to read it http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/613/613366p1.html