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Thread: TC Notes Devs Listen :)

OhBuggah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:20 pm
#27






Ialwysdie wrote:

Well it's good the the BH's will get the names of the marks from the seekers.


As far as the continued whining about Kashykk well it's not difficult to check the instances and instead of trying to push on removing XP or whatnot I think the real issue that needs to be addressed is the LOS bug that is there that is being used by both sides.


Just because you dont' feel like having to check the instances is not a valid argument to change the way kashykk is. You are still able to find your mark as it's quite obvious where they will be on Kashykk especially if they are grinding. It's a matter of time is all it is.


You guys got a bit spoiled with being able to find STATIC JEDI spawns which you easily took down the names and then usually pulled the lowest one of the group or one of the high ones if you though he was AFK. Sometimes didn't even have to run the trail and just farm the ones that are at the Clone spot.


So now you'll have to check each instance. BOO f'n HOO that was the way it was supposed to be in the first place. Most of the BH's that are complaining about the place and whatnot have never even been there but just jump on the Lazyness bandwagon of the others.


The problem with kashykk is not that Jedi are grinding there the problem is the LOS bug combined with the fact that they can find out you have their mission before you attack. If they fix those the so called fallacy of Kashykk being a safe haven will be dead and buried. The only reason its a safe haven is because of those bugs and the lazyness of BH's to do any effort to go there and hunt them. My point is proven on the laziness because I do see some that try to get the LOS bug fixed and also ask for the /duel thing to be changed but the majority of you just are too lazy to even try and push to have XP removed or some other way to make it easier.


Flame on if you wish it just proves my point even more. Fix the bugs on kashykk and it's not the safe haven that so many claim it to be.






Actually, it is very difficult to find a Jedi on Kashyyk if you do not know their names beforehand. There are 6 instances on Rryatt Trail, and 10 instances in Myydril Cavern.


Since you don't know the names beforehand, you would have to physically run down to the Feral Wookie camp (assuming they would be there) on all 6 instances, which would take 30-45 minutes.


To check the 10 instances at Myydril Caverns you'd have to pop in and out of each one, taking 3-4 minutes each time ... which is another 30-45 minutes.


So after you've done all that you've wasted at least an hour of your time ... most likely 90 minutes of your time not even knowing who you're hunting, or if your mark is even in those two zones -- they could be in a completely different part of the planet.


90 minutes is a big investment of time to do a job where you don't even know how much you'll get paid in the end. I mean, what if you spent 90 minutes tracking the Jedi down to the very last instance of Myydril Cavern only to find that you only get paid 60k credits after you killed him in two shot -- that's even worse than SWG minimum wage and a HUGE waste of time.


You obviously do not know how the bounty hunting game mechanic works.


Sirisandir
Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:52 pm
#28






OhBuggah wrote:





Ialwysdie wrote:

Well it's good the the BH's will get the names of the marks from the seekers.


As far as the continued whining about Kashykk well it's not difficult to check the instances and instead of trying to push on removing XP or whatnot I think the real issue that needs to be addressed is the LOS bug that is there that is being used by both sides.


Just because you dont' feel like having to check the instances is not a valid argument to change the way kashykk is. You are still able to find your mark as it's quite obvious where they will be on Kashykk especially if they are grinding. It's a matter of time is all it is.


You guys got a bit spoiled with being able to find STATIC JEDI spawns which you easily took down the names and then usually pulled the lowest one of the group or one of the high ones if you though he was AFK. Sometimes didn't even have to run the trail and just farm the ones that are at the Clone spot.


So now you'll have to check each instance. BOO f'n HOO that was the way it was supposed to be in the first place. Most of the BH's that are complaining about the place and whatnot have never even been there but just jump on the Lazyness bandwagon of the others.


The problem with kashykk is not that Jedi are grinding there the problem is the LOS bug combined with the fact that they can find out you have their mission before you attack. If they fix those the so called fallacy of Kashykk being a safe haven will be dead and buried. The only reason its a safe haven is because of those bugs and the lazyness of BH's to do any effort to go there and hunt them. My point is proven on the laziness because I do see some that try to get the LOS bug fixed and also ask for the /duel thing to be changed but the majority of you just are too lazy to even try and push to have XP removed or some other way to make it easier.


Flame on if you wish it just proves my point even more. Fix the bugs on kashykk and it's not the safe haven that so many claim it to be.






Actually, it is very difficult to find a Jedi on Kashyyk if you do not know their names beforehand. There are 6 instances on Rryatt Trail, and 10 instances in Myydril Cavern.


Since you don't know the names beforehand, you would have to physically run down to the Feral Wookie camp (assuming they would be there) on all 6 instances, which would take 30-45 minutes.


To check the 10 instances at Myydril Caverns you'd have to pop in and out of each one, taking 3-4 minutes each time ... which is another 30-45 minutes.


So after you've done all that you've wasted at least an hour of your time ... most likely 90 minutes of your time not even knowing who you're hunting, or if your mark is even in those two zones -- they could be in a completely different part of the planet.


90 minutes is a big investment of time to do a job where you don't even know how much you'll get paid in the end. I mean, what if you spent 90 minutes tracking the Jedi down to the very last instance of Myydril Cavern only to find that you only get paid 60k credits after you killed him in two shot -- that's even worse than SWG minimum wage and a HUGE waste of time.


You obviously do not know how the bounty hunting game mechanic works.







Not to mention they could log off anywhere in that time period and you wouldn't know it...



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OhBuggah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:05 pm
#29






RebRifle wrote:

But the question is will it return a name on the good old carpet planet





The answer is No. You will not be able to know the Jedi's name if you launch a seeker on Kashyyk. This has been confirmed by Blixtev himself and his confirmation said it was an intentional oversight, per instructions from SWG Producers, not a bug.

blackhaze-
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:07 pm
#30






OhBuggah wrote:





RebRifle wrote:

But the question is will it return a name on the good old carpet planet





The answer is No. You will not be able to know the Jedi's name if you launch a seeker on Kashyyk. This has been confirmed by Blixtev himself and his confirmation said it was an intentional oversight, per instructions from SWG Producers, not a bug.







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Crash752
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:23 pm
#31






Tanks wrote:

Bounty Hunter


  • Seeker droids will now return the name of the Target


'Nuff said.


/deepbow;






This is great news. As long as we get the name at some point during the huntthese changes are great. This is the most attention Devs have given to bounty hunter issues ever.


All we need now is a way of filtering out Jedi that are on Kashyykk so I don't have to waste time picking up and dropping missions over and over again.



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pagoa
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:24 pm
#32

Ialwysdie you are missing the point of the complaining about kashyk, i think many are. true ther are bh's taht are complaining cause they want to hunt the easy jedi and most of them are on kashyk, so they want an easier way to find them. here is what i am saying......there are some of us that DO NOT CARE about the jedi on kashyk. we dont' want to hunt them and peace be with them while grinding.


what i am saying relates to the terms and kashyk marks. right now i can go to a mission term and pick from a large list of 200k + marks, and almost all will not be on kashyk. this is good cause i want to have nothing to do with kashyk. i can pick a good jedi that will give me a good fight and hopefully i will do the same for them. but with the change i will go to the mission term and all the missions will be displayed as 60k marks i believe. so now i can't avoidthose marks that are probably going to be grinding on kashyk, cause i don't know the level of the jedi i'm getting. it makes it counterproductive and is not really logical. i don't want to waste time sorting through low level jedi if they are going to be on kashyk. basically what i'm saying is that i give in to the jedi who want peace while grinding. they go to kashyk to grind in peace so why force a bh who is willing to leave them alone to take those marks and go through the trouble of sorting through them...when right now i can sort through them based on their mark price.


the current price of a mark not only tells me how much i'm gonna get but in a secondary way also tells me who will and wont be on kashyk. i simply want a system tocontinue to exist where i can ignore that planet and those marks. hope that makes sense.don't make life hard for the master bounty hunters who currently hunt high end marks and avoid kashyk. the jediwho grind there don't want us there and many of uswho hunt high end marks have no need to go there anyway.


pagoa


Eutock
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:25 pm
#33

Bugs or not on Kashyyyk, if seekersare not going to give a name on that planet, that will only solidify more its Publish 20 safe haven status. Really not sure what everyone is so excited about here.




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OhBuggah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:32 pm
#34






Eutock wrote:

Bugs or not on Kashyyyk, if seekersare not going to give a name on that planet, that will only solidify more its Publish 20 safe haven status. Really not sure what everyone is so excited about here.






Definitely not a bug. They've intentionally omitted Kashyyk from the Seeker update.
Ezzah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:37 pm
#35



Tanks wrote:
Bounty Hunter
  • Seeker droids will now return the name of the Target

'Nuff said.

/deepbow;






This fixes nothing.
BH are still griefed.
We are unable to hunt with friends.
We are unable to choose the worth of our marks. (IE we cannot choose to hunt knights)
We are still forced to waste time searching multiple instances on kashyyyk.
When are we going to see real fixes which are not mere grief shifts?
Eutock
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:45 pm
#36






OhBuggah wrote:





Eutock wrote:

Bugs or not on Kashyyyk, if seekersare not going to give a name on that planet, that will only solidify more its Publish 20 safe haven status. Really not sure what everyone is so excited about here.






Definitely not a bug. They've intentionally omitted Kashyyyk from the Seeker update.






Sorry I was trying to say, "whether or not Kashyyk is a bug-free (e.g. LOS exploit) world or not."


More general comments (not directed at anyone). I still say this is a rope-a-dope scheme SOE is pulling on BH's. Granted, it solves the /target problem, and does bring back a bit of the intelligence and stalking aspects of the hunt. But that's still a big hassle to get the sig, launch arakyd, wait, travel to planet, launch seeker, wait, just to find out it's someone you don't want to hunt. And on the flip side, what's going to happen when BH's still find it relatively easy to "gank squad" Jedi? Having the pool of Jedi on the terms being only online Jedi shouldn't make it too hard to form a 2-3 man BH team. Then we'll here "grief grief grief" all over again. I thought the whole point of anonymous missions was to stop the alledged gank griefing et al.





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SamousNemo
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:02 pm
#37






Tanks wrote:



As everyone knows they are disabled. Last night 50% of my bounties were on Kashyyk. Now, the original intent might have been to allow Jedi to experience the quests, but at this time it has become a grinding spot. I know Jedi that never leave the planet, just logout in instances.


Can we please get the droids enabled? At least they were somewhat working before (you had to launch the seekers in the instance that the Jedi was in for it to work). Devs can fix the other technical issues with them later on just like a lot of other bugs.


How would it be for regular professions if:


Artisans could not craft on Rori.

Entertainers could not dance or play music on Naboo.

Melee defense was disabled in Dantoine.

Terrain Negotiation was disabled in Dathomir.

Jedi heals were disabled in Corelia.

Ranged Profession weapons were disabled in Tattooine.


You get the picture. You have disabled part of our abilities for a whole planet. I do not think it is fair or logical.


Dev Response: Sorry, not techinically feasible, but OTHERsolutions are being looked at


I'll keep this on the burner though.

Message Edited by Tanks on 06-07-2005 10:33 AM




No offense Tanks and you'll have to excuse my bitterness... but this changes just about nothing.


Yes, this will help with house-mice, but if we show up at a planet to use a seeker and the arakyd WP is at the same spot an AFK bounty was, it's pretty obvious it's the same guy. If it's not in the same spot, then it'll probably be an unsolo-able 226ksince all the paddies will be grinding on Kash.


As I've posted above, I know you once had issue with Kashyyyk. The devs said other solutions were being looked at and I'm cool with that. But if seekers still won't give names while there, I would hardly consider this an accomplishment.


Honestly Tanks, thank you for the effort. But please don't give up on this.



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RebRifle
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:06 pm
#38

Great the one planet i truely need a name above all else and i don't get it....
OhBuggah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:14 pm
#39






SamousNemo wrote:


Yes, this will help with house-mice, but if we show up at a planet to use a seeker and the arakyd WP is at the same spot an AFK bounty was, it's pretty obvious it's the same guy. If it's not in the same spot, then it'll probably be an unsolo-able 226ksince all the paddies will be grinding on Kash.





You know, you guys say "unsolo-able 226k" Jedi, and I look at the pictures of all the 226k Jedi I've solo'd in my .sig and wonder what the heck you guys are talking about.


The truth is, when I go after a 226k Jedi, I win about a third of the time, die abouttwo-thirds of the time-- which is the way it should be. I think people who say that 226k Jedi are unsolo-able are confusing a sure win with a difficult win.
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