Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Cool Down Timer Exploit?
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Shysty
Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:27 am
#27
you get +50 from SEAs
+25 General Ranged Speed
+25 Rifle Speed.
10110110
Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:36 am
#28
Cool down timers are somehow borked.
It has been said that speed is capped at a 1 sec fire rate.
Now, with MBH,MP and 1 FS speed boxI am actually at a 1 sec rate without powerups using SEA's.
I notice that the timers for each special has a different recharge rate. When I attack a MoB, be it player or NPC without a speed PuP Isee a slower timer rate for specials.
However once I add a speed PuP, my weapon speed drops to .79
While I cannot fire faster than one second using a dedicated special, I do seem to noitce a quicker timer on certain specials when I'm under the 1sec fire rate.
There have have been sequences that Ive used where I can fire specials once a sec without having to worry about cool down, a combo or chain effect if you will.
Whether this is intended or not I've no idea, but I can see it being a cause for concern as anyone proffessiondropping below a speed cap may be able to combo like this.
By design or flaw? Only DEV can answer that one.
joejccva
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:07 pm
#29
Stupid question but I'm not in the game right now. Where is ranged shot at? I don't even remember there being a shot called this. LOL.
Nathanielstarr
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:08 pm
#30
joejccva wrote:
Stupid question but I'm not in the game right now. Where is ranged shot at? I don't even remember there being a shot called this. LOL.
It's the regular shot with the red target.
Achyutathewook
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:24 pm
#31
BloodMonk wrote:
Speed from SEA's - 50speed from SEA's, capped at 25.....
He means +25 from gen ranged speed and +25 from rifle speed = 50 in speed SEAS.
Anarchicgorilla
Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:02 am
#32
10110110 wrote:
Cool down timers are somehow borked.
It has been said that speed is capped at a 1 sec fire rate.
Now, with MBH,MP and 1 FS speed boxI am actually at a 1 sec rate without powerups using SEA's.
I notice that the timers for each special has a different recharge rate. When I attack a MoB, be it player or NPC without a speed PuP Isee a slower timer rate for specials.
However once I add a speed PuP, my weapon speed drops to .79
While I cannot fire faster than one second using a dedicated special, I do seem to noitce a quicker timer on certain specials when I'm under the 1sec fire rate.
There have have been sequences that Ive used where I can fire specials once a sec without having to worry about cool down, a combo or chain effect if you will.
Whether this is intended or not I've no idea, but I can see it being a cause for concern as anyone proffessiondropping below a speed cap may be able to combo like this.
By design or flaw? Only DEV can answer that one.
This is why...
Speed timers are like the following for non-back to back same special shots.
special speed x modified speed.
Example ranged shot has a timer of 1, so your next shot can be fired after 1 x your modified speed
adv critical has a time of 1.7, so your nextshot can be fired after 1.7 x your modified speed
Now if you use a speed pup and have a modiifed speed of .6
ranged shot = 1 x .6 or .6 however the cap is 1 so you fire the next differnet shot after 1 second
adv critical = 1.7 x .6 or 1.02 so you can fire you next differnet shot after 1.02 seconds
The cap is not on your modifed speed... The cap of 1 is for how fast you can fire back to back shots.
RebMBH
Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:10 am
#33
I know I have been hit from some sort of exploit like this by jedi before. Jedi roots me, walks 10m away walks back up to me and I get hit with 3 specials at the same time and insta incapped.
Nathanielstarr
Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:43 am
#34
Jedi have done the same to me and I was told it was legit. I've been figuring out the best ways to attack quickly using quickdraw and combinations of attacks to do the most damage as quickly as possible and I have had much success.
Why is it only an exploit if a BH does it?
KilferfUhn
Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:47 am
#35
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Why is it only an exploit if a BH does it?
Who said that? 
Ignorant people are everywhere, i ignore them. If someone really believes that, they are truly sad.
AhrotahnNahvah
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:58 pm
#36
BloodMonk wrote:Speed from SEA's - 50speed from SEA's, capped at 25.....
umm general spd duh
Aydhan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:48 pm
#38
Anarchicgorilla wrote:
10110110 wrote:
Cool down timers are somehow borked.
It has been said that speed is capped at a 1 sec fire rate.
Now, with MBH,MP and 1 FS speed boxI am actually at a 1 sec rate without powerups using SEA's.
I notice that the timers for each special has a different recharge rate. When I attack a MoB, be it player or NPC without a speed PuP Isee a slower timer rate for specials.
However once I add a speed PuP, my weapon speed drops to .79
While I cannot fire faster than one second using a dedicated special, I do seem to noitce a quicker timer on certain specials when I'm under the 1sec fire rate.
There have have been sequences that Ive used where I can fire specials once a sec without having to worry about cool down, a combo or chain effect if you will.
Whether this is intended or not I've no idea, but I can see it being a cause for concern as anyone proffessiondropping below a speed cap may be able to combo like this.
By design or flaw? Only DEV can answer that one.
This is why...
Speed timers are like the following for non-back to back same special shots.
special speed x modified speed.
Example ranged shot has a timer of 1, so your next shot can be fired after 1 x your modified speed
adv critical has a time of 1.7, so your nextshot can be fired after 1.7 x your modified speed
Now if you use a speed pup and have a modiifed speed of .6
ranged shot = 1 x .6 or .6 however the cap is 1 so you fire the next differnet shot after 1 second
adv critical = 1.7 x .6 or 1.02 so you can fire you next differnet shot after 1.02 seconds
The cap is not on your modifed speed... The cap of 1 is for how fast you can fire back to back shots.
Where did those number come from? Not flaming, just curious so I can figure stuff out on my own. Thanks.
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