Bounty Hunter Archive

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Sirisandir wrote:

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Daeges wrote:

Pretender/Respec BH’s will drop off, leaving more good missions for the real BH’s

Not true. Most BHs out there have MASTER BOUNTY HUNTER for speed / accuracy / adv critical shot.

Jedi’s can no longer see if they are on the terminals

Doesnt really matter. Jedi’s can’t select themselves with their alt BH, or have guildmates BH’s select them, to keep the mission tied up or have the BH agreed to be killed so the mission is removed

Meh.

The TEF will prevent a lot of running and hiding and result in more fights

Heard the tef was reduced to 2 and a half minutes. TEF only incurrs if the jedi hits back.

BH’s not wanting to hunt a certain faction can avoid those missions, saving a lot of wasted time

Nothing in the patch notes stated that faction would be shown...I could have read wrong though

BH’s need not lose time with offline jedi

Wont show weather they're AFK / on the Ryatt trail / the miss difficulty was said to be hidden...so you could get a surprize sexing from a knight, when you were hoping for a paddy

Mission payouts will go up for some lower level Padawons: occasional easy $

yay?

Pretender Jedi lose wtf is a pretender jedi?

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Also, a quote from a dev:

"Missions will only be generated if the target is online at the time, this doesnt guarantee they dont log for dinner, etc. At least you know they are online at the time of mission generation. There is also a fairly significant one in there were once the BH attacks(even if the Jedi doesn't fight back), the TEF flag is set and prevents Jedi from doing things that TEF's prevent, like entering houses."

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Message Edited by Sirisandir on 07-06-2005 01:53 PM

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Actually, the dev also clarified that both the Jedi and the BH will receive the TEF once the BH attacks. So if the BH attacks the Jedi in a public building, both will immediately be kicked out so that the battle can continue outside.

I agree mostly with the original poster. Most of the changes are good. The problem lies in the wild goose chase that will happen if the Jedi is in a private structure, on Kashyyyk, or space. The worst of these three is the first, of course. The mark is on Dant, you go there. You get a waypoint in the middle of no where, so you head out. You finally get there, and find nothing (with updated seeker waypoint) because the mark is inside a house or cantina. For all you know, they could have also logged as soon as they saw a "blue dot."

If the Pub 20 changes can ensure that the BH will receive a legitimate mission, it won't be a bad hit for the profession. Bounty Hunters just need to be able to get missions that they can attempt to complete by being able to attack the mark, if they don't logout. Otherwise it's just more wasted time on dead-end missions, which is the exact opposite of fun. And fun is the objective of this game, as the devs have said time and time again.

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Daeges wrote:

I am not sure that some of you are thinking these changes all the way through. There is a lot of good for bounty hunters here:

I disagree

Pretender/Respec BH’s will drop off, leaving more good missions for the real BH’s

How did pretender/respec BH prevent me from doing my job before? Oh that is right they didn't.

Jedi’s can no longer see if they are on the terminals

They don't need to see, IMHO they either know they are on them, or know they are not, or expect to be on them shortly.

Jedi’s can’t select themselves with their alt BH, or have guildmates BH’s select them, to keep the mission tied up or have the BH agreed to be killed so the mission is removed

Although having 'alts' hold missions sucks, it was no where near a big enough problem to institute this 'fix'.

The TEF will prevent a lot of running and hiding and result in more fights

No, TEF will prevent them from runing into a house and only for 150s now, not 300s. It does not 'make' them fight. It just makes them run for a bit, then run to/into safe house.

BH’s not wanting to hunt a certain faction can avoid those missions, saving a lot of wasted time

However we can not choose who we fight, so in turn I can take a guildies mission, friends mission, or a jedi that is a 'protected/no hunt list' reguardless of how they decide to list them on the terms, if names are not included, this is going to happen.

BH’s need not lose time with offline jedi

That is what my friends list was/is for.

Mission payouts will go up for some lower level Padawons: occasional easy $

There is/was no problem with payout, nor does this pertain to anything valid in this discusion.

On balance, I think this is good for true BH’s. Less time between dead ends, more legit targets, more likelihood of a fight that has a final result. Yes, you’re going to wind up occasionally taking a lower paying mission and fight a higher level Jedi, but that is the give/take with being a bounty hunter.

Giving a legit look at who gained what, I think the pretender Jedi’s lost too, as did those who abuse the system. Interesting how certain jedi’s names never seemed to get on the terminals…those days are gone. As are the days of running and hiding in a house. Some jedi’s that managed to avoid fights before are going to have to stand their ground now.

Balance? Pfft. I don't know who I'm hunting, or what he/she is worth or his/her name. IMO this change will not take out dead time, it will be the same AND I wont be able to target Jedi that make a name for themself either by runing their mouth or showing off in major cities. I still don't see how these changes are gonna make a jedi fight?

Pretender BH’s lose
Pretender Jedi lose
Legit BH’s gain
Legit Jedi gain

Sounds like a good deal to me.

More like.....

Pretender BH lose/die, cause that is what they do

Pretender jedi lose/die, cause that is what they do (or hide on kash)

Legit BH's (BTW no 'legit' BH sees faction, you are a BH 1st, faction affiliation 2nd) end up geting hosed

Legit Jedirun around unchecked

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Message Edited by CivicBountyHunter on 07-07-2005 02:21 PM

hate the double post

Message Edited by Daeges on 07-11-2005 11:04 AM