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Thread: Double gold harder than jedi

ice33b
Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:51 pm
#27



ducky_kunsamasan wrote:


Wales wrote:


ducky_kunsamasan wrote:
I used to have trouble with those double elite bh marks, now whenever i encounter one i get someone from my guild who is a doc or cm or a jedi sometimes to stand behind me and heal me the whole time.... now I dont have trouble anymore=-)
and whoever helps me gets half of the money!





Can the Doc, CM or Jedi also hit the mark?


nope





Wrong.

Anyone in the area can help kill the mark, providing it uses an AoE, then it becomes a red dot.



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Valondra
Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:54 pm
#28

Ok here's the thing......these just started with publish 24.....ive had plenty of hard bosses but never any this hard. And ive done hundreds of missions. This just started TODAY. And no we shouldnt have to have someone sit there and heal us for 15 min while we take it down. Its ridiculously hard now on some of these bosses.....NOT all of them are like this .....seems to be the 33k -36k marks, double gold, level 82.



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rkormos
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:09 am
#29

hey all


ok just tryed to kill a mark and got a double gold.

so i thought "cool" as done loads of these in the past


got to him on lok and did my usual 1st strike and barly scratched him, then he runs up pulls out a axe and starts hitting me for 1k of dmg


long storie short i died, so i clone and go and get buffed and east and drink my jedi fighting foods ect.

go back to him and pull out my med droid to help me heal.


i am a MRM MBH with some medic, i can heal with bacca toss and inject or what ever the medic one is for 1k each time.


and he still kicked my ass, i was healing for 2500 in total, so i start to rub around, and he roots me?!?!

so i died again and only got him down to 30k of health from 35k.



if anyone else has experienced this or knows how to kill thease sob's please let me know.



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Quikgoner
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:13 am
#30

Yeah I got a lvl 82 double stripe and even with my 1055max carbine it wasnt easy. Im runnin a MBHMCARB 4000cm and he kept me on my butt most the time. I managed it after pulling out a max healing droid which could also keep the health regen in check. Thankfully I didnt get the melee attacks you did Wish you the best of luck in future



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Inoga_Tarien
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:29 am
#31

I expect you will find it safer to hunt jedi than the level 82 marks.. Atleast the Jedi don't get 30healh, instant action regens and while they do have specials, they -pay- for them.

@joy, more screams from the Jedi.




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Darkstarbane
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:49 am
#32

i beat one double gold <<>> today as a mbh , mpistoleer, cm 4000 but it was the longest fight of my life... i rooted and it seemed to stick .. but then he pulled a sword and ran up to me .. while rooted!!!!! i had to really time kd, root combo but it was no fun at all kiting across hills. but we get what we ask for



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Quikgoner
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:39 am
#33






Kakabus wrote:
Nothing lasts longer than a MDef near water that doesnt fight back...Sorry..If you think a NPC mark is harder than a jedi you should just hunt jedi and find out that is not the case....Big deal an NPC can root u now...they have always been able to kd u and use debuffs.






You obviously havent fought some of the Jedi on my server, some last a fraction of the time that lvl 82 boss mark took to kill. The only jedi that tend to be a problem or last more than a few minutes are those who indulge in MLS, aura, valor and those who know what they are doing, not all jedi are as super amazing as you put it.



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SizlChest
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:01 am
#34

That's my main beef with ANY NPC, BH mark or not. The action and mind DON'T MOVE. If these moves theyre doing would cost them some action and mind, and if the MCM debuffs worked on them, we might have a chance. My health is like 3500+ I guess, and theirs are 38k. Now to balance this, their action and mind need to MOVE.
Roeven
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:03 am
#35

Well I haven't even started to try and hunt jedi yet but...


When I logged in yesterday, i decided to try a BH mission. I get to my mark and he is a level 81 with 17K HAM. I usually don't buff for these so i go about as normal. Hit duelist stance and attack first with a charge shot. He puts this snare on me that I have never seen, which is fine since I barely move for these guys anyway. Then he runs up on me with a melee weapon, armor breaks me and starts whacking away. I had heard of this new AI for NPC's and was like okay, well this is different. The guy made me actually pop a blob candy cause i was running out of action cause of the specials I was using. I still beat him with minimal heals but it took me twice as long to bring him down.


So today...


My first mission was a 33K HAM mark. I was like okay, I buffed up on my usual regular foods, spices and drinks for marks like this (just so it doesn't take long), slapped on my +18 healing efficiency bandolier and actually called out my med droid. Well aside from me missing 1 in every 5 shots (using my carbine and I am master carbineer), this guys health regen was crazy, i was sitting there for 5 minutes and he was like a quarter done. I ensured torso shot was always applied, and always tried to kd him. Other states didnt stick as he resisted, then he snares me whips out this huge axe, AB me, then whacks away. I still beat him (with a crappy loot of bugs and a HLR), but it nearly took me 15-20 minutes to bring him down. And this is using both a pretty decent carbine (with an action pup on it so i can use more specials), and a decent pistol (with a 700+ modified DPS). I used ranged shot so i can get action back and he was healing faster than each ranged shot could apply damage.


I love these types of fights and would take 35K marks all day (mostly better loot) but had I not buffed for it and used that med droid, I might have been toast, or the fight might have lasted way longer.


On another note, Yesterday I tried Krayt hunting with much despair. I can usually solo all but Ancients (well i only tried one ancient and died while it was close to death), so i decided to try a juvenile krayt (which are bumped up to level 82 now). I figure what the hell, I can beat CL 85-86 ones, so i started to attack it. Its health regen was CRAZY, I never got it to more than half and had to give up cause I ran out of action and mind, ate some parwan and got out of there, I was fighting it for like 10 minutes. When i used ranged shot to get action back, it almost regenerated health back to full I was like **edit**? So, so much for that now....I really enjoyed hunting those lizards. And I love the hamstring snares that they apply on me too.


These NPC's are definitely tougher...






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PhatDhad
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:08 pm
#36

rofl, ya


I just tried an elite boss.....wow died fast.






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Khormid
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:26 pm
#37


The npcs were to easy before now its a challenge! Makes it more fun!



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MolemanMole
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:34 pm
#38

I agree i like it i still thinkthey are easy. killed a double gold 34600k ham in 15 minutes flat on my lunch break at work. Im not sure what you guys are doing but if you cant heal your dead. I healed 20 times or more. Stim packs alone are not going to cut it. I dorrped fire on him and used a FWG5 pistol thats it. I stayed moving until i had to heal.




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Inoga_Tarien
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:54 pm
#39







Epichistonian wrote:

aren't bosses supposed to be hard?






Hard, yes, maybe even difficult. Impossible? No.


90k Heath for being 2 levels higher than 80. Where a human Maxes at 3k (roughly) at level 80?


(If memory serves aLevel 81 mark is roughly 13k. health wise.)


BH is supposed to be a solo profession, which is why they changed the terminals so we could not get five Bh's targeting one jedi at a time. (Or grouping against them.) Then rather than naming the players its now, (or has been for a time,)Imperial Jedi or Rebel Jedi.


The BH profession was supposed to be an elite profession, to my mind it took a serious hit in the CU, and in the changing of the skill based system to one of levels.


Now we are hit with a smarter AI, no problem I can deal with that, the thing that is killing the game for us is the instantaious Regen on the NPC actions. And the fact that the Health regeneration is also ramped way up there.


I have been seeing what was once a decent attack, (of mine) drop from 500 points or more of damage to less than three hundred, where as I am getting hit for 1 k or more at times.


Admittedly I don't have uber armor or even a psg, just my probot that helps me attack on occcasion.I think part of the problem is that the Devs turned up the resists, along with the Health/Actionregen.


As it is, I am seriously givingthought to using my respec token to make a change to Master Doc, vs Master Carbineer. (Yeah I have been holding it for some time.) Though even that is something I am hoping not to do.


Sadly the 'old' BH lay out of Master Marksman, Master Scout and then Master BH does not even come up to Level 80.


I gues it falls down to the old addage of: Change is not always good.






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