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Thread: first night hunting with my Master SSL in tow

obuu
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:23 pm
#27






OhBuggah wrote:





Akast wrote:

tonight i dragged my msl alt with me on all my missions and the result was, well sucesfull in part, i was using the single buff high yeild and the group buff blaz of glory (50% chance to crit on any type od shot) i had 6 fights tonight. the damge im doing is extreme to say the least, over a 1k hit on a mdef on a crit shot, none of the jedi i encoutred clould live with the damge and 4 ran (so much for snare) 1 died and i crashed in the middle of the last one.


In conclusion if i was a jedi and i saw me comming with my sl in tow i would run.


on a side note only jedi that did ok where ones with psgs, so i had to swich to my kin rifle which sucks.


my sl dueled a jedi i was doing 800 damge to, but he used paint target blaze of glory and called shot with a crappy scatter and hit him for 1800 after armour


yay for Squad Leaders






man, this is bogus on both sides of the fence. a BH should NEVER be able to be assisted when hunting a jedi mark.


i just cannot believe the devs did not see this happening? are they all so narrowminded?










funny miriam on our server forums your the one advertising "Looking to hire SL sidekick" and yet your saying its bogus to be assisted? then why are you posting on our server forum your looking for a SL to join you in hunting jedi's. link to it is below if you all want to see this. And to all you bounty hunters i apolgize for envading you forums wanted you all to see that miriam is 2 faced.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Starsider&message.id=484452





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Takeshi1422
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:28 pm
#28

lol






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Zilane
Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:09 pm
#29



charb wrote:


Zantzen wrote:
Hello ...
I am one of the Jedis that ran ... What I can tell is : its the first time since CU that I loose (technicaly I flew so I lost ...) a fight to a BH ....
Am mdef LS 0404 but speed and Acc tape capped and my saber is 680 max ...
Am not crying for nerf on this issue, but sure thing is, next time I meet an SL buffed BH am not sure I ll stay to fight ...
PS: I used one health buff crystal and one holo on this fight to no avail ....
Gratz again Akast



so.... are you saying that you should always win?

jedi are 1.5x stronger than players, or at least should be. I can't tell you the sheer amount of times where i've been pounding on someone with 1 or 2 other guys and we just CAN NOT bring them down. I'm not referring to the force crystal health buff either. If someone buys 2 accounts and auto-follows himself with a SL so be it. I actually started grinding a SL a few weeks ago. I plan to do the same thing. Even now 1 v 1 they run. jedi vs BH debate has so many spectrums, trying not to bring other issues into this one argument. the main reason i intended to do it was the +100 terrain negotiation (jedi like to run).

Tho honestly, last I recall whenever you used to run missions PCU and found a jedi out grinding, wasn't he always with a doctor? sometimes a player, usually a bot. dunno, just my 2 creds.






Save the trouble and just get yourself a +10 terrain negotiation SEA. Remember that the first 50 of terrain negotiation goes to running speed, everything above that goes to crawling speed. You already have 40 TN from the BH pre-req.

I was one hell of a crawler when I was a ranger.



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Dallow
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:09 am
#30


I'm not sure how it really works, but I was under the impression that SL buffs would drop for both parties once the BH attacked. If they don't then I don't see how this is any different than a jedi getting outside healing and/or force fed to them. It simply isn't fair. Now, if the BH has SL in his temp, that's another story, I guess.



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Vegitaa
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:15 am
#31






Bristoe wrote:


The dev's have been trying to discourage players from becoming Jedi. There are just too many so now what we have is a bunch of jedi and a bunch of BH. This game is all but over, The devs made a critical error early on by changing the unlock system to one that any fool could do. Now the game is over run with Jedi and to counter that the other half of the players are BH. Just rename the game JEDI vs BH and they will have a winner. Too bad this game is called Star Wars Galaxies. I give the game 6 mos to a year before it is DONE. By the way anyone spending the money for that ridiculous Content PATCH (not expansion) ToW.......


Ohh and before the flames come I am a jedi I refuse to run from BH cause I just dont care if they kill me there is no penalty for death and BH will never think twice about trying to kill a jedi cause there is no penalty for death for them either. Great JOB devs. Keep up the good work you morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!






A much easier way of discouraging players to become jedi would have been to...



  1. Not introduce Jedi into the game. Dev decision not ours.. except the communitty BEGGED for it.

  2. Not reveal the method of becoming a Jedi. Oh wait the community begged for that too.

  3. Not Change the way a player became Jedi by adding in the Village. Again, player base begged for this too. Now all it takes is 3 months of gated missions to unlock.

What to do now? If it's true that Dev's don't want so many Jjedi....



  1. Close down or Gate the village further. Everyone complains there's too many Jedi, and the Dev's don't want so many Jedi. Wouldn't it make more sense to stop new Jedi from being created than to have old Jedi cancel their accounts? At least from a money making strategy.

  2. Remove the ability to be a Jedi, force us all to respec or quit. Take away our sabers, take away all FS skills.

None of that will happen. Dev's want Jedi in game because Jedi sells subscriptions. So does BH. Problem is without Jedi players who are BH'ers going to hunt? I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing to get nerfed or go away is the Player Bounty system altogether. I don't want to see it happen but we should all realize Jedi will login their Jedi toons less and less while more and more accounts get cancelled.


Don't fool yourselves. The Nerf bat ALWAYS comes back at the side that is "winning". Players are not the one's winning or losing the BH vs Jedi war. The Dev's and their Nerf bats are.







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WookieOgre
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:20 am
#32






Dallow wrote:


I'm not sure how it really works, but I was under the impression that SL buffs would drop for both parties once the BH attacked. If they don't then I don't see how this is any different than a jedi getting outside healing and/or force fed to them. It simply isn't fair. Now, if the BH has SL in his temp, that's another story, I guess.






No, the buffs do not drop currently. The SL Correspondent has a post about this issue and *most* SL's want it so BH TEF will remove the buffs from both sides. It might happen one day but currently its just a wish list.


It is slightly differnt from healin/force feeding. The Jedi that used healing/force were getting help while being attacked. BH's are getting this buff right before the fight starts. Once the TEF comes up, a SL can not buff the BH anymore but any buff he had before the fight remains. It's still unbalancing because most Jedi do not have a SL alt computer to /follow their Jedi around getting buffs 24/7. What this patch has basically done is tell the Jedi unless they have a SL buffing them all the time expect to be killed.


bmill
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:43 am
#33






OhBuggah wrote:





Akast wrote:

tonight i dragged my msl alt with me on all my missions and the result was, well sucesfull in part, i was using the single buff high yeild and the group buff blaz of glory (50% chance to crit on any type od shot) i had 6 fights tonight. the damge im doing is extreme to say the least, over a 1k hit on a mdef on a crit shot, none of the jedi i encoutred clould live with the damge and 4 ran (so much for snare) 1 died and i crashed in the middle of the last one.


In conclusion if i was a jedi and i saw me comming with my sl in tow i would run.


on a side note only jedi that did ok where ones with psgs, so i had to swich to my kin rifle which sucks.


my sl dueled a jedi i was doing 800 damge to, but he used paint target blaze of glory and called shot with a crappy scatter and hit him for 1800 after armour


yay for Squad Leaders






man, this is bogus on both sides of the fence. a BH should NEVER be able to be assisted when hunting a jedi mark.


i just cannot believe the devs did not see this happening? are they all so narrowminded?









If the buffs are applied prior to the fight beginning, they are no different that doc buffs. Can the SL buffs be applied WHILE a BH TEF is active?



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HeadRoll
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:50 am
#34







Vegitaa wrote:


None of that will happen. Dev's want Jedi in game because Jedi sells subscriptions.


there were more players before the holo days. many of which quit due to all the jedi poons.


So does BH. Problem is without Jedi players who are BH'ers going to hunt?


There are plenty of Jedi sitting at Theed waiting for action.


I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing to get nerfed or go away is the Player Bounty system altogether. I don't want to see it happen but we should all realize Jedi will login their Jedi toons less and less while more and more accounts get cancelled.


Don't fool yourselves. The Nerf bat ALWAYS comes back at the side that is "winning". Players are not the one's winning or losing the BH vs Jedi war. The Dev's and their Nerf bats are.


Jedi forum posts number 27k, next highest is BH with 7k posts. Developers are not dumb. They realize a game that will eventually have nothing but Jedi will become one dull game...fast. Hence they are attempting to make it less appealing by upping the other professions and toning down Jedi. We will see in a year how this all comes down.







Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-20-2005 02:50 PM

WookieOgre
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:51 am
#35






bmill wrote:

If the buffs are applied prior to the fight beginning, they are no different that doc buffs. Can the SL buffs be applied WHILE a BH TEF is active?




Key here is buffs from a Doc will not win a fight. A SL buff can make someone a defensive god (in a duel) or an offensive king. Show me a Doc buff that does that and your argument has weight.

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