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Thread: first night hunting with my Master SSL in tow

Ockedeho
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:50 pm
#14






Akast wrote:
its really hard now for me to kill jedi, they run as soo as they see me





Your running around with an I Win button and you dont understand why a Jedi doesnt want to
hold still and be your cash cow? Go figure
Zantzen
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:07 am
#15


Hello ...

I am one of the Jedis that ran ... What I can tell is : its the first time since CU that I loose (technicaly I flew so I lost ...)a fight to a BH ....

Am mdef LS 0404 but speed and Acc tape capped and my saber is 680 max ...

Am not crying for nerf on this issue, but sure thing is, next time I meet an SL buffed BHam not sure I ll stay to fight ...


PS: I used one health buff crystal and one holo on this fight to no avail ....


Gratz again Akast
charb
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:44 am
#16






Zantzen wrote:


Hello ...

I am one of the Jedis that ran ... What I can tell is : its the first time since CU that I loose (technicaly I flew so I lost ...)a fight to a BH ....

Am mdef LS 0404 but speed and Acc tape capped and my saber is 680 max ...

Am not crying for nerf on this issue, but sure thing is, next time I meet an SL buffed BHam not sure I ll stay to fight ...


PS: I used one health buff crystal and one holo on this fight to no avail ....


Gratz again Akast






so.... are you saying that you should always win?


jedi are 1.5x stronger than players, or at least should be. I can't tell you the sheer amount of times where i've been pounding on someone with 1 or 2 other guys and we just CAN NOT bring them down. I'm not referring to the force crystal health buff either. If someone buys 2 accounts and auto-follows himself with a SL so be it. I actually started grinding a SL a few weeks ago. I plan to do the same thing. Even now 1 v 1 they run. jedi vs BH debate has so many spectrums, trying not to bring other issues into this one argument. the main reason i intended to do it was the +100 terrain negotiation (jedi like to run).


Tho honestly, last I recall whenever you used to run missions PCU and found a jedi out grinding, wasn't he always with a doctor? sometimes a player, usually a bot. dunno, just my 2 creds.


HeadRoll
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:55 am
#17






Akast wrote:


yay for Squad Leaders





lol, why don't people learn on these boards? you post stuff like this, it's only a matter of time it will be taken away...sooner rather then later.. I realize you want to brag but.....


enjoy it, have fun with it, but it's best you keep it to yourself.






Tokmora27
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:08 am
#18

well on my server. when my MSL buffed me. the buffs went away as soon as I got a jedi tef. So im not this is all totally accurate.
Zantzen
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:22 am
#19




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charb wrote:







Zantzen wrote:


Hello ...

I am one of the Jedis that ran ... What I can tell is : its the first time since CU that I loose (technicaly I flew so I lost ...)a fight to a BH ....

Am mdef LS 0404 but speed and Acc tape capped and my saber is 680 max ...

Am not crying for nerf on this issue, but sure thing is, next time I meet an SL buffed BHam not sure I ll stay to fight ...


PS: I used one health buff crystal and one holo on this fight to no avail ....


Gratz again Akast






so.... are you saying that you should always win?


jedi are 1.5x stronger than players, or at least should be. I can't tell you the sheer amount of times where i've been pounding on someone with 1 or 2 other guys and we just CAN NOT bring them down. I'm not referring to the force crystal health buff either. If someone buys 2 accounts and auto-follows himself with a SL so be it. I actually started grinding a SL a few weeks ago. I plan to do the same thing. Even now 1 v 1 they run. jedi vs BH debate has so many spectrums, trying not to bring other issues into this one argument. the main reason i intended to do it was the +100 terrain negotiation (jedi like to run).


Tho honestly, last I recall whenever you used to run missions PCU and found a jedi out grinding, wasn't he always with a doctor? sometimes a player, usually a bot. dunno, just my 2 creds.


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Did I say that I should always win ? I said that before yesterday I never lost . Maybe I was lucky, maybe am not so bad at pvp, I only pointed that a BH buffed by a MSL is deadly ... I didnt rant, complainnor called for nerf and even felicitated Akast .... What more you want ?


Akast
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:00 am
#20


This is why i post less and less on these boards, flame flame flame. bragging? why would i be bragging? if i was bragging i would say hey u know i killed 10 jedi in one day on sunday.

i was just sharing this information with the BH community, this will not get taken away because 1. the damge is good but nothing like what people were worried about on TC and 2. its not an i win button cause the jedi can stuill run, and the best of the best jedi will still win.and 3 the buffs only last as long as doc buffs (10 mins individual 30 mins group) and The SL can only apply buffs before the fight as soon as teffed no more buffs.


you guys have to rember theres more to this game than BH v Jedi, SL is fine for everything else, and if a jedi wants to he can tow a SL along with him



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WookieOgre
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:09 am
#21






Akast wrote:


This is why i post less and less on these boards, flame flame flame. bragging? why would i be bragging? if i was bragging i would say hey u know i killed 10 jedi in one day on sunday.

i was just sharing this information with the BH community, this will not get taken away because 1. the damge is good but nothing like what people were worried about on TC and 2. its not an i win button cause the jedi can stuill run, and the best of the best jedi will still win.and 3 the buffs only last as long as doc buffs (10 mins individual 30 mins group) and The SL can only apply buffs before the fight as soon as teffed no more buffs.


you guys have to rember theres more to this game than BH v Jedi, SL is fine for everything else, and if a jedi wants to he can tow a SL along with him






I understand what you are saying but if you are taking on a Master Defender with Aura and hitting for over 1k damage, it's seroiusly unbalanced against any non Defenders. It will be 1-2 shot against non Defenders. Maybe that is the intent of this publish, to force Jedi into particular templates but you can't really call this a fair deal.


Expecting the hunted to know when and where a BH attack is going to take place is impossible. And it's also unreasonable to expect every Jedi to have a SL next to them JUST incase a BH decides to attack.


I think having an alt /follow you around is not really the issue because I'd say almost no one will have this ability. The problem I worry about is when BH's group up to kill a Jedi. When posts came up stating that it was possible to group hunt a Jedi I recieved (and I'm not joking here) 10 emails asking how it's done. Does anyone have ANY doubt that now it actually benefits a BH to have a group of SL around him/her you will see groups of people hunting Jedi?


You say the good Jedi will still win or be able to run.....snare fixes that problem as well as the upcoming Cloak nerf. How would a Jedi fair when a BH has two SL's buffing him.....how about three or four? Do you really think this is not an issue that needs to be addressed? I can see people exploiting the fact it's supposed to be 1vs1 yet these buffs give people a chance to affect the outcome of every fight. Unbalanced, I think it seriously is and if it goes unchecked I'd expect either nerfs to BH's or nerfs to SL's eventually. Devs might leave it unbalanced for a couple months to thin the Jedi herd but eventually they'll realize when the Jedi profession dies, so does the game.


Boat
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:42 am
#22





I understand what you are saying but if you are taking on a Master Defender with Aura and hitting for over 1k damage, it's seroiusly unbalanced against any non Defenders. It will be 1-2 shot against non Defenders. Maybe that is the intent of this publish, to force Jedi into particular templates but you can't really call this a fair deal.


Expecting the hunted to know when and where a BH attack is going to take place is impossible. And it's also unreasonable to expect every Jedi to have a SL next to them JUST incase a BH decides to attack.


I think having an alt /follow you around is not really the issue because I'd say almost no one will have this ability. The problem I worry about is when BH's group up to kill a Jedi. When posts came up stating that it was possible to group hunt a Jedi I recieved (and I'm not joking here) 10 emails asking how it's done. Does anyone have ANY doubt that now it actually benefits a BH to have a group of SL around him/her you will see groups of people hunting Jedi?


You say the good Jedi will still win or be able to run.....snare fixes that problem as well as the upcoming Cloak nerf. How would a Jedi fair when a BH has two SL's buffing him.....how about three or four? Do you really think this is not an issue that needs to be addressed? I can see people exploiting the fact it's supposed to be 1vs1 yet these buffs give people a chance to affect the outcome of every fight. Unbalanced, I think it seriously is and if it goes unchecked I'd expect either nerfs to BH's or nerfs to SL's eventually. Devs might leave it unbalanced for a couple months to thin the Jedi herd but eventually they'll realize when the Jedi profession dies, so does the game.






Maybe this is the Dev's way of finally saying that the Jedi need to keep more quiet? Maybe its time they actually went into hiding? The funny thing is, I am not nearly ready to go after Jedi yet...having to much fun RP'ing right now, but I grouped with three of them the other night for a little grind, and with a CL 32 Bh, I had one of them staring at me like I had Vader's helmut on. Personally I thank them for the hunt, but If I had a MBH somewhere over the horizon, it could have gotten interesting. My point is that the Jedi are just too flamboyant in the game.....if you wanna play Jedi, go get KOTOR and have a blast. You come in here, prepare to hide, run, fight, and hide.





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WookieOgre
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:27 am
#23






Boat wrote:




Maybe this is the Dev's way of finally saying that the Jedi need to keep more quiet? Maybe its time they actually went into hiding? The funny thing is, I am not nearly ready to go after Jedi yet...having to much fun RP'ing right now, but I grouped with three of them the other night for a little grind, and with a CL 32 Bh, I had one of them staring at me like I had Vader's helmut on. Personally I thank them for the hunt, but If I had a MBH somewhere over the horizon, it could have gotten interesting. My point is that the Jedi are just too flamboyant in the game.....if you wanna play Jedi, go get KOTOR and have a blast. You come in here, prepare to hide, run, fight, and hide.







That's an unreasonable point of view. Stay hidden? You mean don't play the game, do no quests? Because any of those things will actually put you on the terms and make you a BH target.


Devs may as well just tell all people who play Jedi to quit. But see if they did that would this game be finanically viable? If the devs truely think the answer to that question is yes, I foresee a lot of lost jobs at SWG Austin office next year.


Bristoe
Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:31 am
#24


The dev's have been trying to discourage players from becoming Jedi. There are just too many so now what we have is a bunch of jedi and a bunch of BH. This game is all but over, The devs made a critical error early on by changing the unlock system to one that any fool could do. Now the game is over run with Jedi and to counter that the other half of the players are BH. Just rename the game JEDI vs BH and they will have a winner. Too bad this game is called Star Wars Galaxies. I give the game 6 mos to a year before it is DONE. By the way anyone spending the money for that ridiculous Content PATCH (not expansion) ToW.......


Ohh and before the flames come I am a jedi I refuse to run from BH cause I just dont care if they kill me there is no penalty for death and BH will never think twice about trying to kill a jedi cause there is no penalty for death for them either. Great JOB devs. Keep up the good work you morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!

robpro
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:22 pm
#25






WookieOgre wrote:





bmill wrote:

If the buffs are applied prior to the fight beginning, they are no different that doc buffs. Can the SL buffs be applied WHILE a BH TEF is active?




Key here is buffs from a Doc will not win a fight. A SL buff can make someone a defensive god (in a duel) or an offensive king. Show me a Doc buff that does that and your argument has weight.







I would not say defensive god. the defense buffs either dont work or just suck really really bad.



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Bristoe
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:28 pm
#26

Wait to see what happens in a year LOL!!!!!!!


I can tell you that now, Message as follows:


Due to the lack of players now playing SWG we are sadened to say that this game will no longer be supported.


I fully expect to see this message with in the next 6 mos to a year. What saddends me is that this game could be one of the best mmorpg's ever unfortuantly with short sighted Developers, horrible customer service (one of the worst I have seen) with a nerf bat the size of the sears tower, and ridiculious bugged to hell never fixed right content patches that no one should ever be paying for (jtl, Rotw, and ToW) What shocks me above all else is how Lucas Arts allows these Idiots to keep basterdising there claim to fame!


Putting that all aside I dont care if a bh has these buffs if he wins he wins If I win I win the major problem with what is going on is that there is no penalty for death on either side. And dont say jedi loose xp blah blah blah cause truth is if yourNOT master temp your gonna die anyways so just run away.... What the devs need to do is create a PVP and BH system that allows for some sort of penalty otherwise what is the purpose of pvp or doing BH player missions. Cause I know I am tired of killing or being killed and there is no reward or loss. This is what is making the game boring, well for me anyways.!!!!
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