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Thread: last ditch being used as a first strike -exploit-
Issik wrote:
Using the MOBs to get his health very low: Very smart, not an exploit. That's fighting using his surroundings.
Using a pet to get yourself incapped before last ditch: Exploit.
That's my opinion of it at least.
/agree
I've never had LD, but if I understand correctly doing this poses a huge risk to the BH of being incapped, not to mention the possibility of the special missing.
timit wrote:
Heres the story.
Im grinding in theryyatt trail. A bh comes. I know this bh because i escaped her/him as a lower level paddy before in the myydril caves with the crystal you get from a quest down there.
So i stop attacking wookies and stand away to prepare for a fight. This bh < jadelance > runs off of the first bridge with mobs close behind her/him. Runs past and runs accross the other bridge out of my sight. She/he then comes back and hits me for 4632damage <1 shot incap>.She got close to being incapped by the mob and then use last ditch shot on me AS A FIRST STRIKE. She did not get incapped in the process. Doesnt last ditch incap both players?This is what someone else has said, and yes, i checked the combat log. <4632 damage>. A shot this powerful should not be used as a first strike attack on a bh's mark. This gives jedi no chance to react at all. So i say,the ability for bh's to use this as a initiating attack is a exploit and needs to be fixed. Flame away if you must.
So because you were flanked and he made the best of his first move you cry EXPLOIT.... come on you are 1.5 TIMES stronger than a double major and you cry exploit.
mindspat wrote:
DayWalkerRori wrote:
This is a Exploit yet, Jedi runing into buildings while in a fight to regen Force isnt?
LOL Good Greef
I'm curious why you would think Jedi who fight a BH then run into a house to regen just to pop back out a few minutes later to attack isn't an exploit.
Both need to be corrected.
You REALLY want to leav a mark on a Jedi?
Obtain a FocusCrystal +2000 health and any thing else that can boost your health, locate friendlt Stormtrooper and /slap him. If you used an incap recovery food you should be up in seconds. Target the mark and LD his sitdown !! (show me some screenies of the damage you can do with this)
Yeah, that's not an exploit.
*edit: As a matter of fact. As soon as my favorite pistoleer/smug gets back in game (this weekend) I'll test this and post some screenies for you all.
Message Edited by mindspat on 06-29-2005 03:46 PM
You took what I said the wrong way...Jedi unning into a house to regen during a fight is a Exploit..The LD fired as the first shot isnt....The BH took a HUGE chance here..
Kabar22 wrote:
timit wrote:
Heres the story.
Im grinding in theryyatt trail. A bh comes. I know this bh because i escaped her/him as a lower level paddy before in the myydril caves with the crystal you get from a quest down there.
So i stop attacking wookies and stand away to prepare for a fight. This bh < jadelance > runs off of the first bridge with mobs close behind her/him. Runs past and runs accross the other bridge out of my sight. She/he then comes back and hits me for 4632damage <1 shot incap>.She got close to being incapped by the mob and then use last ditch shot on me AS A FIRST STRIKE. She did not get incapped in the process. Doesnt last ditch incap both players?This is what someone else has said, and yes, i checked the combat log. <4632 damage>. A shot this powerful should not be used as a first strike attack on a bh's mark. This gives jedi no chance to react at all. So i say,the ability for bh's to use this as a initiating attack is a exploit and needs to be fixed. Flame away if you must.
So because you were flanked and he made the best of his first move you cry EXPLOIT.... come on you are 1.5 TIMES stronger than a double major and you cry exploit.
CU design documents stated one-hit incaps are not intended.
Last Ditch itself is working fine.
Slapping a stormie / fighting critters is working fine.
Using stormies / critters to get an artificially low health to be able to open up a fight with Last Ditch is exploiting, since by CU design one-hit incaps are not intended, so it should not be happening and it is a bug - using a bug to gain an advantage over other players is exploiting.
The counterpoint I heard most: The BH/smuggler has a chance to fail, which more than likely will result in a DB by the mark.
So what? Trying to commit a crime and failing doing so does not make that crime a legal act.
This belongs in the BH boards, by the way, because this special only has a first-strike capability if used by a BH. If a pure smuggler wants to use it, he would have to join Special Forces to be able to attack another player, open to counterattack. Only when a BH gets close to 0 health in safety without fear of being incapped and deathblown by his mark Last Ditch can be used as a first strike.
Apparently you choose the wrong forum to whine on because most Bounty Hunters here dont seem to mind....I can already here the B!tch Slapping of Stormies across the servers.. followed by a hehe cool as another incapped jedi hits the floor. Next time pay better attention...
LOL
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Kakabus wrote:
I think that every jedi who cries because they got db'd should be considered harrassment to the galactic population. Furthermore, you were at the kash trail? So basically you are in a sense, exploiting as well. People who go to place to just stand still and continually kill regenerating MOBs should be considered exploiters as well. Whether your AFK or not. So I guess you're just getting yourjust rewards!
Message Edited by Kakabus on 06-29-200503:40 PM