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Thread: Give us Stealth

zukem
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:14 pm
#27

A master ranger camoflauge that lasts 10 minutes, and removes you from the radar screen. If rangers had that ability, it would make Rangers become the Doctors of pre cu days. Viable, and useful.



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RebRifle
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:25 pm
#28






Greywulf0 wrote:

I wouldn't mind an ability to remove yourself from the radar, even if you remain visible on the screen. However, it would sadden me to no end to see this become a BH ability, considering that Rangers have been asking for this for nearly 2 years.


The biggest reason that I dropped Ranger after the CU was seeing the ability to remove yourself from the radar and sight go to jedi and riflemen, especially after we were told that it wouldn't be possible to code this ability due to hackers. It was a huge slap in the face to me. Even though I am no longer a ranger, I would fight and protest any other profession getting this ability before ranger.






I've been a rifleman for 2 years thats one of the things we were asking for as well
Talset11
Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:02 pm
#29

Deletes rangers. Problem solved


He is just offering a suggestion for the BH proffesion if it fits with BH's it may be considered who asked for what/when is irrelevent.


Rangers are survivalists getting something to be off radar and visually invis would be fine via a camo kit.


Bh's getting a device to scramble another players Radar for a brief period to remove them only from radar would be appropriate as well. Why jedi got cloak is anybodies guess


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Phenix1050
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:08 pm
#30






Talset11 wrote:

Why jedi got cloak is anybodies guess





Because it's in the EU, I'm guessing. Heck, as far back as the Super Nintendo era, Jedi's had powers that could make them invisible. More recently, KOTOR II had Jedi whose skills in the force included the ability to turn invisible. In Episode IV, we see Obi-Wan ignored completely as he walks down the hallways. One can make the assumption that he simply wasn't seen. We also see Obi-Wan trick Stormtroopers into not seeing him by distracting them. So there's actually a lot of justification for Jedi's to be able to cloak.


BHs really don't need stealth in this game. What needs to happen is to have Force Cloak have a steady drain on Force. Of course, the force cost for running by a person should be dropped, but basically, if you're concentrating on being invisible, you should be constantly using the force throughout, much like how Force Run works now. It's a persistant drain. Perhaps also make it so you can't regen force while invisible, because right now, Jedi's can run, cloak and then meditate back to 100% force. Very not cool, in my book.





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This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
WampaTrainerII
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:13 pm
#31

While this is an interesting idea, you have forgotten one thing.


Being removed from Radar won't help. Smart jedi don't use radar because it lags too much. They use the overhead map which with the zoom can give you early warning up to about 350m on incoming objects.



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Loanstar
Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:14 am
#32


No. I will not be drawn by the Darkside (jedi powers period).


I will make due with the talents I have been given, w/o needing to be as powerful as 3 normal people or I will fall with my dignity.
Phenix1050
Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:49 am
#33






Yoshiyuki wrote:


Off radar off your little map thingy.





Tell me- what prerequisite do BH's have that in any way supports this? Skills have to come from somewhere. There's no camoflauge in the marksman branch and the only line you have in scout has mask scent-- which is good enough. Tell me- do you really think that BHs have more of a claim to stealth than Rangers, who have to create somthing called camouflage? Who have a skill called /conceal? Think about what's good for the GAME, not just for your profession. It's not good for the GAME to have alpha classes.


A BH/CM/Pistoleer is very powerful. Imagine how powerful they'd be with stealth. As I said, balance comes from the understanding of a 5 pointed star-- stealth, healing, defense, nuking and crowd control. Using pistoleer and CM abilities you have crowd control. BH specials give you state attacks and power attacks. BH and pistoleer give you good defense. CM gives you great healing. That's 4 out of 5 points on the star. Now you want them to get the 5th one for free, essentially creating a template with no weak points? That's just silly.


Realise that every Jedi has to choose between those 5 things. A MLS/MDef/ power 4000, healer 1000 template doesn't have crowd control. a MLS/MDEF/Enhancer 4000, Healer 1000 doesn't have stealth. There is no way for any other template in the game to get all5 points, but you somehow believe that BHs should be able to? That's not good for the game as a whole. Until you can address those concerns, your idea is just foolhearty.



PHE'NIX ANTARUS
BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
Yoshiyuki
Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:15 pm
#34






WampaTrainerII wrote:

While this is an interesting idea, you have forgotten one thing.


Being removed from Radar won't help. Smart jedi don't use radar because it lags too much. They use the overhead map which with the zoom can give you early warning up to about 350m on incoming objects.






Off radar off your little map thingy.
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