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Thread: Last Ditch

SassTheBard
Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:22 am
#27

LocWolf --


Last Ditch has a delay of 4.0, damage modifier of 6.0.
Stop Shot has a delay of 4.0, damage modifier of 4.7. (Last Ditch is always better'n this)
Fan Shot has a delay of 2.4, damage modifier of 4.0. (Generally has a higher DPS than LD)


However,I wouldn't bother withanything other than LD-- at high (+75 or better) speed bonuses, LD overtakes Fan Shot in terms of DPS and it's *always* the highest damage per shot in the game.


If you're higher'n 75 speed bonus, you have to be a BH ... and with LD for general purpose and your Eye Shot for a targeted pool shot, plus your various knockdown moves, you should have a VERY lethal combination there, without worrying about the pistoleer trees too much. If I wanted to spend some points in it, I'd probably pick up some of the bonuses for accuracy, but pass on the speed and special moves ... you've got the two best moves in the game for pistol, plus enough posture-changing and KD moves to make your LD insanely effective.

LocWolf
Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:24 am
#28

Thanks Sas, that was exactly what I wanted to know.
LocWolf
Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:42 pm
#29

Also another question, can I rely on last ditch alone? Or should I take up the trickshot tree for stopping/fan shot, and does the marksmanship tree of pistoleer help that much?
slugeater
Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:45 pm
#30

"No. You need 70-ish speed for Last Ditch to be really useful. "



HA. You said it. Guess I'm going to quote you someplace else.




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LocWolf
Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:25 am
#31

I see, so basicaly, fanshot is the best DPS move if you DON'T hit the speed cap, but last ditch is the best if you DO. Right?
Tomasi
Fri Oct 03, 2003 8:53 am
#32

Yeah. This is why I still like my weapons sliced for speed, and add a 32%spd-15%min dam power-up. I can get near 1-speed cap with a 54 pistol speed.



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PCgameGuru
Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:12 am
#33

The reason stopping shot is better than last ditch is that it takes fewer skill points to obtain, and it gives +20 resist to dizzy. If you have a choice take the pistoleer box over the dirty fighting box.




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Tomasi
Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:36 am
#34

It's unfortunate the state change defenses are broke though. They do not work.



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Eevik
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:43 pm
#35

so would an Expert Bh (bhpistol4) be better off getting up to fan shot+stances 1, and having plenty of skillpoints left over, or getting last ditch and stances 1???


i have unarmed 4 and Bhpistol2 and Novpistoleer, and have enought for stances 1, any advice?, i like using creatures, but will possible drop to go the smuggler route, seems like with the BH specials, fan shot will be a nice addition for an extra 14 skillpoints, instead of 14 for unarmed, 15 for nov brawler, 6for smuggler, and 14 for Dirtyfighting, i may have just answered, my own question, sill need input


-eevik

Shidoshi_eaze
Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:46 am
#36

I'm sure you guys are sick of these questions, but I'd appreciate the help anyway. Can someone tell me how to calculate the damage done by Last Ditch, or give me an estimate at what damage i would do with a 84-503 pistol?



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SanTsu
Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:51 am
#37

The basic calculation is


for yout pistol max damage


503 x 1.5 x 6(damage modifier) = 4572


this varies depending on the armor and defenses of the thing you areattacking, Also weather or not it has been knocked down and if its a player its reduced by 75%.




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Shidoshi_eaze
Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:05 pm
#38

Ok, sounds reasonable... a person I talked to on irc claimed he once hit 9000 damage with a fwg5 with Last Ditch. Can I assume he was just talking bullpoop?



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Aeryke
Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:29 pm
#39

If the target is knocked down 9k dmg is possible




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