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Thread: Last Ditch

Dinian
Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:22 pm
#14

I'm sorryI don't have the specific numbers here, but I did a bunch of testing and tried to figure out what the last ditch damage and special delay modifiers by shooting at Rebel bases (sorry Lag).


Then I punched those values into the pistol speed equation dicussed at length in the Pistoleer forum and then figured out that at 91 speed you could pretty much shoot last ditch every second with almost any gun.


Hell you can shoot a 2.5s gun at **edit** near 1.0s its just that at 2.2 seconds you are shooting it at exactly 1.0s speed.




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Dinian
Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:38 pm
#15

I would advise against that friend. You really want a high damage sliced scatter pistol or DX2 in that template and 2.5s speed is typical for a non Krayt scatter with a high spread of damage.


Also. If you don't take Stances I your total speed will be 85. With Stopping Shot (which is slightly faster and less damaging than Last Ditch), a 2.0s pistol will fire every 1.4 seconds.


If you took Stances I that same stopping shot would fire every second. Yes that's how messed up speed is




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LocWolf
Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:44 pm
#16

Ah ok cool. Another question, should I go up the marksmanship or techniques tree. Do the accuracy while standing/moving bonuses help that much? Could I rely on last ditch alone? Or should I get stopping shot and/or fanshot too?
Dinian
Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:46 pm
#17

You really don't have much freedom in pistoleer if you get novice medic on top of bh pistol 4. Honestly, using a Stimpack B is far far far far far far far far far more valuable than anything you will ever find on the pistoleer tree.



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Retired producer of fine weapons for Kong Technologies
Tomasi
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:13 am
#18

Speed calc:


(WeaponSpeed * SpecialDelayMod) - [(WeaponSpeed * SpecialDelayMod) * (PistolSpeed/100)] = firing speed.


1 sec is the cap.




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deadnewbie
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:21 am
#19

I find having reliable access to a doctor more useful than spending 15 skill points for novice medic. I'm giving up my medic skills for this instead.



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Araxus01
Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:21 pm
#20

I have a 60ish-298 1.4 speed fwg5, unpowered up, and im a master smug/pistoleer. Just using last ditch alone i can outdamage a tka using unarmedhit3, its pretty nasty, really. Sometimes when facing a eyeshot spamming no skill bounty hunter Ill even be the one who delivers the deathblow.



But i hope some dev doesnt read this thread and think last ditch needs to be nerfed, in order for my dmg output to be so high, i had to take a 150k fwg5, give it a 34% dmg slice, and master 2 professions.




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Neclonmite
Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:32 pm
#21

I dont think stopping shot is significantly faster. In fact all my tests show it to shoot at the same speed as last ditch.


Are you timestamping your tests? Just spam lastditchon something and look at the time stamp on each lastditch.




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RogueStryder
Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:00 pm
#22

Hmm Ive been thinking of dropping stopping shot for last ditch. I will have 4 in the speed catagory of pistoleer shortly. My dx2 is a 1.7 speed with nice damage. Do you guys think ditch would work out better than stopping?
grego
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:13 pm
#23

i was recently checking into this and was trying to find out if id be ok with a 1.8ish spd pistol with 54 pistol spdd bonus if id be ok using last ditch?


anyone know this? or should i not even bohter?




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grego
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:19 pm
#24

make that a 1.4 spd pistol with 54 spd bonus, is last ditch worth it with that?



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deadnewbie
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:37 pm
#25

No. You need 70-ish speed for Last Ditch to be really useful.



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grego
Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:38 pm
#26

whats the spd multiplier on it?



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