Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: FEEDBACK: Jedi Missions No Longer Showing Player Name, or Bounty Payout
KapenPendragon
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:03 pm
#300
Well take away the names sure that would be fine with me the only bad thing with that would be what if they were in your guild you just wasted time and droids what if you were a imp and really didnt like hunting imp jedi same with rebs no names would be fine just have it list faction that would be great also payout would be good to because a bounty hunter really isnt going to go after some jedi risking his life and find out the guy is worth only a few 10k creds. The only reason names are displayed is for if you are holding a grudge or someone wants to get back at a jedi and they go off and hire a bounty hunter and pay them alittle extra. But if names are taken off the problem with kash will really need to be fixed high number of life forms?? doesnt say that on dant or dath and i know there are alot more people on atleast dant than kash. Also if FRS is brought back how is anyone going to take down a overlord? it takes atleast 4 maybe 3 if they know what they are doing if you took away names high ranking jedi will be impossiable to take down with a bh. so take away names but put in faction and fix the kash problem and leave payout or just leave it how it is and maybe fix kash and alot of people will be happy
dierebelscum
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:24 pm
#301
I have an idea...
On the standard mission terminals lets have them remove the creatures name, direction and payout. Then toss in missions that are on different planets. Wouldn't that be fun - take a mission on Tat and come to find out you haveto go to Dant to kill a Bol! Maybe even put some Piket missions on Kash and not WP them. Come on guys - get real.
On the standard mission terminals lets have them remove the creatures name, direction and payout. Then toss in missions that are on different planets. Wouldn't that be fun - take a mission on Tat and come to find out you haveto go to Dant to kill a Bol! Maybe even put some Piket missions on Kash and not WP them. Come on guys - get real.
/sarcasm off
Here's some suggestions..
Here's some suggestions..
1. Create and state the rules that apply to kill-kill-kill griefing.
2. Flag each BH's account with the name of the last25 jedi he/she has killed and a timestamp.
3. Allow the jedi tocheck to see if said BH is truly grief killing them. (Formatting example below)
4. Allow the BH to check that same list to prevent this problem and remove the "I didn't know I had just kill him 2 hours ago" excuse.
4. Allow the BH to check that same list to prevent this problem and remove the "I didn't know I had just kill him 2 hours ago" excuse.
4. Allow Jedi's to easily report offenders.
5. Hire more CSR's to respond to only those specific tickets. Require the CSR to respond within 20 mins of the ticket being submitted.
6. Allow the CSR to restore lost xp to the jedi if they in fact have been griefed in this manner.
7. Levy NO warnings!First offense by eithera BH or Jedi (creating false reports)will triggerserious consequences.
8. Upon opening the window to report such issue will cause the list (item 3 above) to open at the same time. Allows for the jedi to double check and also removes the "Oh, I didn't know about that command" excuse.
Example (from item 3 above)
Make this a simple command like /bhkills <BH name>
Make this a simple command like /bhkills <BH name>
BH Name: <BH NAME>
You were last killed by<BHNAME>on xxxxx at xxxxx AM/PM PST (usinga 12 hour clock to keep it simple)
You were previously killed by <BH NAME> on xxxxxx at xxxxx AM/PM PST (repeat as needed)
This format will keep the jedi from know who all the BH has killed but still provides the needed information.
Keep in mind folks, a bounty hunter is one of two things. Either a speed bump on the road to a full template or a Knight killer. I enjoy both. Some BH focus on one or the other. I think the suggestions above will allow most ppl to walk away happy knowing they're not being griefed and they can still have fun.
Biirta-Baadu
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:57 pm
#302
have you guys played the new mmo Jedi Galaxies? it kicks ass! all you have to do is go to this certain Wookie planet for a week to get a jedi master!! sign me up!!
JutMan
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:58 pm
#303
EmobBreiPistoleer wrote:
JutMan wrote:
I would say perfect and perfect....
This is what the game has needed for a long time!
- No more griefing! You cannot selectively attack the same person over and over and over because they called you a little girley Bounty Hunter! I don't know one bountyhunter that does that. And I've been playing since launch, so I know a lot. Or are you maybe talking from 1st hand experience? As a matter of fact i am... Each server has their little griefers... and if never saw it happen it is because you are on the wrong side to hear about the people who get burned.
- You can no longer get 4 buddies to take the same Jedi mission! No more teaming for the win! Bounty Hunting is a solo profession not a gang up. Wow, if I recall right, in the movies all the BHs are listening to their bounty payer? No? And do you know how long it takes for just 2 people to find the same bounty? Well if you arn't lucky, it takes about 1.5 hours avrage. As i recall this is NOT the movie and follows the Star Wars timeline like a lazy drunk. Before the CU (and yes, i have played a Jedi since Pre-CU and i was a Bounty Hunter) It still does not take 1.5 hours to find the same mark. Once you know the payout amount it takes at most about 5 - 8 minutes.
- You no longer can select the lowliest padawan to pick on to boost your ego! Only complete newbs do that. All the BHs I know (and im in an all BH guild) only go after 200k+ bounties. The avrage BH takes 150-190k missions. I am not talking about the people who play a Bounty Hunter as they are expected. I am talking about the people who go BH to find Jedi that are low level for fun. Those who see them trying to grind and kill them for their own twisted kicks. My hats off to the BH that actually PLAYS a BH.
- You cannot see a Jedi at a starport and go take his mission for fun! OMG you must be stupid, or a newb. Do you know how hard it is to find a persons bounty when u don't know what his bounty is? There are 2,100 different pay outs. It's basically impossible to do that..... Last i checked i had just passed 730 days on my account. I have seen this done over and over. Stupid Jedi dueling in Theed or Coronet and a Bounty Hunter runs and taks their mission. They wait until Incap of close enough and one-shot them. Then they screenshot it and post it on the boards. A lot of what i am saying comes from Pre-CU where there were 20 Jedi on the boards not 2000. As for stupid or a newb that it not accurate.
5. You cannot selectively take a Jedi mission while he is doing PvP! Read #4.Completely true. I have seen this happen on my server over and over... 5 on 5 Rebel vs. Imperial. A quick tell and it is 5+2 on 5. The other mates can do nothing but watch because of the TEF system. It is game mechanics and I am glad that it will be nearly impossible to do anymore.
OK, where is the down side?
Ohhh.. I have to do ALL of Bounty Hunter to get teh Skill!!!
Ummmm... WHAAAAAA.. try being forced to take Master Lightsaber... Try being forced to have to take defender... Try being forced to have to take 4004 healing to live. You don't have to? I'm a MCH, and I don't have to take the underpowered proffession. MCH was my first profession and I kept it until a had no choice but to drop it. Even after it was nerfed to crap I still thought it was fun. At least it is getting a little bit of it's teeth back slowly.
Finally, Try getting NERFED for the millionth time! This is the FIRST and ONLY (not even a real nerf) that Bounty Hunters have EVER and i mean EVER gotten. And look! You are still the #1 Proffession! And you are a nub to think this is the 1st nerf ever..... how long have you been playing? I've been playing since launch. And Jedi arn't being nerfed, you are being Balanced! Ohhhh! Jedi arn't supposed to be balanced! They are supposed to be uber and have an I win button! Most of you Jedi are complaining about the last patch saying u were nerfed..... you were upgraded. You guys now hit for 900 damage on a person with 9500 armor, and +100 melee defense food.... but oh noes! U can only heal 20 times now!!! Jedi id NOT the #1 profession. I never said it was the first Nerf... Master CH was the very first NERF. They got slammed and I was one. (see above over 700 days on the account created day #2) Going from Force cost on heals (which was a lot) to Action + Mind + Force + warmup + cooldown on healing isnot "balancing". Jedi do NOT have the I WIN button anymore. As a Master Healer i can tell you my trees got nerfed so you only need 4004 Healer. I have re-ground my template at least 4 times now because of "balancing". If you are lucky they will give another respec... Then again you can re-grind in a few days.. not a few months.
Suck it up... There is no downside here... None... Nada... Zip and Zero... For Jedi... That is right... This forces ALL Bounty Hunters to play their profession as intended.
**EDIT** or get off the pot... Be a bounty hunter go do something else..
BTW, Good luck to all you stinking lowlife FRS Grinding Jedi Masters... So much for your little game!
PEACE!
Message Edited by EmobBreiPistoleer on 07-05-2005 08:11 PM
nari2
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:02 pm
#305
The BH profession was given the ability to target and hunt any Jedi they wanted. Some Jedi pissed you off and kill stealed, go grab his mission and make him pay. Some Jedi killed you in a PvP battle, go grab his mission and get revenge. Some Jedi looked at you funny or even worse had the audacity to wear his robes in front of you, go grab his mission and make him pay. Where was your check and balance? You know how many rifleman and swordsman came and kill-stealed a Krayt from me? What could I do to get my revenge? Nothing. Many of you all abused this power to target specific individuals as your way to get revenge or quite frankly just to be an @#$hole. SOE has finally made it a little harder for people to do this and you all cry. The Ryatt trails is hardly a safe haven for paddies. BH frequently come down there write down all the names of the jedi there and then spam on Kadaara who is in what instance. Is this how your profession is suppossed to work? Sounds like specifically targeting people to me if you already know your mark BEFORE you go to the terms. You all did this to yourself, and for once I applaud SOE. And don't blame the jedi for visibility when everyone knows you cant grind solo in this game anymore. Even Tanks posted about it.
Eutock
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:09 pm
#306
Romulus76 wrote:
I did the jedi grind when it was a GRIND. Now it's a speed dash. Any jedi claiming it takes that long in the current system is a liar or a newb who can't adapt to the new system. There's about 200 new 220K+ missions on Kauri that were 50-80k 2-3 weeks ago. So give us all a break on that 1 year grind crap. It was never a years worth of a grind. NEVER. Only to the casual gamer who played once or twice a week was it ever like that. I could do 600k a buff session after publish 9 just in a solo group doing voritors on dant.
I've hunted hundreds of Jedi over the past year, and came across a number of genuinely nice people that would strike up a conversation with me after I hunted them. Then, over the following months I would watch as their mission payouts would gradually increase. I always thought kudos to them, they're sticking with a months-long grind and will deserve their Knight in the end. How sad it is now that those Knights are their titlesare seriously devalued thanks to first the grinding insanity of the Warren, followed by the CU, double XP weeks, and all the other nonsense that has arrived since.
I think it's a myth that most bounty hunters did Jedi missions because they "hate Jedi". I feel the geniune ones did it for the thrill of the live hunt.
CelticBH
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:13 pm
#307
My BH toon is cancelled.
I think this sums up my opinion.
Keep it up SOE, I cancelled 4 toons because of the CU. This is the fifth.
I have 4 more that are quickly become a waste.
LordMarr
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:22 pm
#308
Iwill retire from bh if they do this no-name, no-pricebountys. if your mark is in a crowded area, how are we to know who the bounty is. i dont want to use the duel exploit to find out which jedi i can attack. i think that would be wrong. I never heard of any bounty in the history of all bounty hunting on earth where u were not notified of the name of the criminal that you are supposed to hunt and the price he is worth. I will stay a bh but i will no longer hunt jedi as its too much BS involved to kill one. If they have smuggler missions that can go after, i may return to the player hunting.
Can you imagine jabba placing a bounty on Han Solo. He tells the bounty hunters " i want you to kill a smuggler, i cant tell you his name, but once he is did ill pay you, oh, i wont tell you how much he is worth until the job is done"
Lame
Count Dooku, "Jango, i want you to kill a senator, i cant tell you the name or how much i will pay you until the job is done".
If the point is to prevent griefing and group killing, then make it that once you fail your mission u cant take the persons mission again for 24 hours, and to prevent group hunting only one bh cant attack at a time once the combat is engaged. Then after the fight, if the jedi wins, next bounty hunter cant attack for 20 minutes.
thats how you fix a problem, not making it more complicated and so outa of character from what bounty hunting is.
_Apache
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:47 pm
#309
I stand corrected. Apparently names are NOT givin and you will need to Tab through possible targets.
ericlatrelle
Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:50 pm
#310
I can understand where they are coming from with removing names from the terminals. It will alleviate the hunting of the same people over and over again. But who in their right mind would take a mission on someone and not have any information on them or not knowing exactly how much you are going to get? It doesn't make any sense. Oh well. To me, all this means is that it will be "no holds barred"hunting on all Jedi.
LordMarr
Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:10 pm
#311
i think ill retire once this garbage is live, ill go back to killn womp rats and doing other types of missions. if the npc missions at MBH level were even remotely challenging or difficult then i go do those. I hear the payouts are less too, that bites. its a total bh nerf, i dont see how this makes bh better. i wonder how long it lasts. i will probably organize a protest, not with intent to crash a server but on much smaller scale to prevent that. I just wish to they listen to bh when fixing stuff concerning bh than only listening to the complaints of the jedi.
Fix the problem, don't dumb down bounty hunter to something that isnt a bounty hunter.
Biirta-Baadu
Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:10 pm
#312
yeah, i can also totally understand where the Devs are coming from by supporting jedi afk grinders on kash, no droids on kash, no group jedi vis...
last i checked afk grinding was a bannable offense, obviously only for non jedi subscribers.
It's overly apparent the Devs are being influenced by SOE's marketing dept.
welcome to "Jedi Galaxies"
last i checked afk grinding was a bannable offense, obviously only for non jedi subscribers.
It's overly apparent the Devs are being influenced by SOE's marketing dept.
welcome to "Jedi Galaxies"