Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Stop jedi gamebreaking hiding!
Jorvas wrote:
You are correct. You are allowed to do whatever you want with your gametime. At least as long as you´re not griefing, harrassing, exploiting etc etc. And to admire the inside of your house is also ok. But that wouldn´t be done afk, would it? I decorate my house...sometimes I spend an hour in it or more. But I sure as hell aint afk while doing it. Do I ever go afk? Of course...dinner, walk the dog etc. But if I´m going away for more than 30 minutes or so, I log off.
When someone openly confess that he/she is only leaving their jedi online, afk, doing some pointless macro...then I consider it to be a kind of harrassment. A passive kind...but still an harrassment. That person is doing it for the sole purpose of ruining others gameplay. And that´s pretty close to the textbook version of harrassment, isnt it? (BTW, I have no clue about if I´m spelling harrasment correct)
Like the grief you cause Jedi when you attack them and the loss of XP on there death!
Harrassing them by camping their homes and friends homes, that they are visiting and harrassing the groups of Jedi if the Jedi your hunting is in a house near by!
Trying to gain them VIS!
Exploiting droid's, ruby and bacta toss etc!
Ruining peoples game play all of the above in Yellow text'ed
Pday wrote:
Jargal wrote:
removing xp loss isnt the solution. You all knew what you were getting into when you, of free will, went jedi. Instead jedi should learn to stay off the terms and understand that jedi is a hermit, solo profession. Or accept the consequeses of thier behavior.
Next plz?
i got into : 85% saberblock, 55% damage reduction with m.ls, a faster forcerun, no nerfed force speed, no nerfed AI, and unresisted damage. that was worth the risk.
And defences with out any defender!
Cant grind Investigation AFK. Get rid of the village. Let Jedi earn exp like everyone else.
Darkknight109 wrote:
wazooka wrote:
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.
until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.
funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.
oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.
DaPrez wrote:
How about remove xp loss and make Jedi equal to other combat professions not 1.5x's stronger. Im with that.
QFE - many people compare jedi too much with BH and other professions, jedi is not like other professions, its harder and then also more powerful as it should be. Since there are so many jedi, they have to make it weaker of course (and they have) since non-jedi wont have any fun if there are so many they cant do anything against.
Sorry, but this isn't going to happen. You cannot justify making people go through that ungodly village grind, then through the full-template grind which takes even longer (imagine doing the investigation tree 10 times armed with only a CDEF carbine and with people after youwho can erase the last 5 missions you did on a whimand you get what it's like to do a Jedi template) then suddenly saying "Oh! We changed our minds. Sorry, but yourmonths of training and working hard for the Jedi Knight title are now going to put you on the level of the Master Pistoleer who can reach his template in under a week. Have a nice day!
Maybe with a 10-15 minute timer, but if the mark hasnt left the house then, hes dead (regardless of health). Enought time to come back from the toilet or wherever you are.
If you plan on not beeing atk for more than 10 minutes you could just log out and back in. And in case you crashed it should be long enough to remove the LD body from the world.
In a "RL" situation you could set in on fire or just blow it up
, but destroying other peoples property goes to far ^^(unless of course they bring back permadeath and it is in the inventory of the jedi on his last life)
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
No one likes being hunted unless they are bored.
I'm bored... alot.... I'll be your huckleberry
DarkStarRa wrote:
I love how you get a billion and one reply's after you go lol
For one BH do NOT whine as much as Jedi, Just check all the other profession's on this board and you will have proof of that because you will see Jedi asking for nerfs.. Jedi's got nerfed because they where too strong to begin with so stop complaining. You had your day of ubber god and its over.
Again, If you don't want a BH around you then don't be a Jedi. Its been put uin the game for a BH to purposefully hunt you. No one put houses in the game for people to hide in and no one put houses inthe game as a spot to annoy Jedi.Personally i love the idea that i can take a mobile house with me and if it is ruined because of this i will get pretty pissed.
If you don't like that concept of being hunted then you really need to go over and try TKA/swords or something because its clear that the people who work on the game want you to be hunted.
So, Now it looks like we have gone from people saying "because i want to" to people saying "Whaa whaa You don't have to and i do!"
Grow up folks, Jedi have plenty of advantages NO ONE else has.. You get alt, cloak etc.
Jargal wrote:
There's two thing that should have been adjusted long time ago, right after the BH terms got nerfed.
Since we BHs has accepted the fact that we cant know a thing about our marks when we go out for a hunt, jedi should have to accept two things, as a compromise.
The first thing is househiding. Theres not a single good thing coming out of this feature, only BH annoyance. This even increases the BH-jedi hate. Jedi doesnt get a single xp or any other benefits other than annoying all BHs coming to a house where a jedi sits AFK for hours and hours.
A BH lockpick, made bysmugglers would let the BH inside the house after a 30 sec timer and an possible alarm setting off. This would give the jedi a fair amount of time to prepare for the fight and the BH wouldnt have an other gamebreaking mission. A fair fight for both.
The second is a natural result of the thing above. The spacehiding. If we fix househiding then spacehiding would be fixed at the same time. BH should be able to fire at a jedis ship and force it to emergencyland on the closest planet if 'blow up'. Of course the jedi should have the possibility to jump to hyperspace when attacked to get away. When the jedi has crashlanded on the closest planet, the BH should be able to track him there as usual.
This two imporvments should make jedi more hunted of course, but being hunted of all the galaxy's BHs should be a nightmare. All online jedi that are wanted should be huntable. Theres no good in having house/space hiding...make jedis avalible for BHs to hunt now.
Today BHs spend hour after hours doing the same thing...ending up frustrated outside a jedis house while he is AFK dancing inside. That doesnt improve this games publicity.
I want to see a more alive jedi-BH pvp.
When a Jedi is hunted, his goal is not neccesairily to fight and kill the BH. It is to finish the encounter alive. Whether that's by killing or running is entirely up to the Jedi in question. In the movies Jedi did this by moving to far, out of the way worlds to avoid being killed by Vader's Kill Teams (I might add that never, not once in the movies does a BH ever hunt a Jedi). Sadly, no such world exists in SWG. Dathomir, a planet that is illegal to land on by Imperial law, even if you are Imperial (stromtroopers sent to guard the prison are dropped there from orbit and remain there for the rest of their lives), has players running around it with wild abandon (usually between that little stip of land between Aurilla and the Science Outpost.)
So we can't retreat to a far-off world. Closest thing we have is Kashyyyk, but we can't build homes there. So we just have our homes. Yes, the DEVs said you get to hunt Jedi. Yes, the DEVs told us we would be hunted. But nowhere, NOWHERE did they say it would be a free ride for you BHs! Back when I was a BH I had to bring small armies to kill one Jedi as group-TEF was still around in those days. One of my Jedi hunts turned into a full-on 60 man PvP in the middle of anchorhead, with myself andmy group, and another BH and his group squaring off against the Jedi and HIS group.
Sadly, Jedi are not what they once were. You cannot bring an army to war with you, nor can you take on five BHs all on your own anymore. It is impossible to solo your way to a full template these days, so many people go in groups and, with the disorganization that comes with most groups, vis is inevitable, either by missions showing up right next to NPC spawns, or NPCs spawning as you do the mission. Now usually you can stay off the terms, but every once and a while, a Jedi will wind up on the terms against their own volition. Their only recourse in this case is to run if they are not full template. Run, hide, do whatever you can to avoid the DB. YOU'RE the hunter, you're the one that's supposed to be the stalker. You're the one that's supposed to be willing to stake out our houses for hours on end waiting for us to come out. The patient hunter, the silent killer.
We knew that we could be hunted when we became a Jedi. We also knew that we could run. That we could hide. That we could avoid the encounter. That we didn't have to fight. Apparently YOU are the ones who have not taken a good look at your profession recently. Jedi are not NPCs, we will not just stand there and die. It is YOUR job to be the hunter, to wait us out, not to ***** and moan when we get away.
I have had it with this thread, the debate is just going round in circles with the same old arguements and name calling coming out (and yes that is on both sides).
For the record tho, I will be afk in my house when and where I like and for however long I want to as well, that maybe 5 minutes or it maybe 5 hours. Bottom line is it's my account, my £10 (or however much it is) and it is my time. Until the Devs either take away houses or take away recusive macro or officially call house sitting an exploit (lol as if that is ever gonna happen)
So suck it up or pay my monthly fee for me as that is the only way any other player is gonna tell me what to do