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Thread: please dont let devs wreck my template!!!

jalexu
Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:19 am
#14


MCM is the key to your successes, with that said you can do MBH/MCM and something else (like pistol 0004). I can guarantee you'll have the same rate of success (or very close anyway).





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Rinia
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:20 pm
#15



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ha hahaha hahahahahahahahaha





im with this guy on this one kiddo...



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Nathanielstarr
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:23 pm
#16


You don't understand. The jedi need to their FRS so they can be even more powerful. But they exploited the hell out of it the old way so they have to make it so they can't just have their MBH alot or their friends MBH alt take their mission over and over again. So they are trying to makea system where you cannot pick who you hunt...so they can't exploit it. They'll make the FRS so that you only gain rank by killing MBH that have your mission and from other jedi. So we get nerfed so jedi can be even stronger. But get used to it.
Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:28 pm
#17






Nathanielstarr wrote:


You don't understand. The jedi need to their FRS so they can be even more powerful. But they exploited the hell out of it the old way so they have to make it so they can't just have their MBH alot or their friends MBH alt take their mission over and over again. So they are trying to makea system where you cannot pick who you hunt...so they can't exploit it. They'll make the FRS so that you only gain rank by killing MBH that have your mission and from other jedi. So we get nerfed so jedi can be even stronger. But get used to it.






um yeah ok. you sure are a paranoid little man arent you.


SOE is not out to get you nathanial. geesh.


They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.


So to stopthat from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.



The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system intails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it. I can almost guarantee thatit will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.






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SomeUser
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:39 pm
#18








mmnanszite wrote:

so i finally found my niche.



4000 BH/MRM/MCM

(formerly MBH/MCarb/0404 pistols)




MBH/MCM with carbine 1-3-0-0 is going to still give most Jedi a run for their money... Here is the thing, you'll need to settle for something less then recon armor (recon armor was alway my favorite for Jedi killing as it doesnt cost that much to buy a 6500-7000 energy res suit)... I'm not expert in post-CU armor and dont know if faction armor could be a good sub or not... 2nd, you'll lose the speed bonus and acc bonus you're use to. To compensate you'll need a very high end stock carbine (high dam/low speed and SAC) and then slice that bad boy as close to the cap as you can get it. ADK it and pup it. You'll also need to pay close attention to food/drink/spices.



In the end, you'll have all your CM specials (heals, debuffs, paralyze, ect ect), your ADV crit and improved leg and a weapon that can fire near the cap doing almost the *same* damage as before. And with the right food you can help improve the decrease in acc and help your defenses a bit. So all it really takes is some nice $$$ flow to finance this little endeavor (a high end weapon can easily cost 5 - 10 mil and the ADK will run 6 - 10 mil... We havent even got to the armor and food/drink/spices).



As a MBH the only thing Jedi are really getting this publish is their names will be off the terms and we wont be able to /tar [Jedi name]. However, Tanks is working to maybe convince the DEVs to give us our names back at some point (likely after the probot droid). The paddies are going to have an easier life to as rank will be gone too (IE wont be able to tell the Jedi level by mission payout)... But I am dropping my complaint on that issue as:



  • I'll be a paddy myself in the not to distance future so I guess it kinda works out for me LoL

  • Having looked at the MBH/MCM combo I think you'll give most template Jedi agood fight... Sucks that cloaked Jedi wont be targetable anymore so the AOA CM specials cant make short work of them, but I'm sure BH will find some other "loop hole" sooner or later... SWG is one buggy game after all LoL


**EDIT**


One work around to the Jedi names being taken off the terms is to just do 2x the work. Track your target down and get the Jedi's name. Then, put him on your friend list and leave. You got 3 days to complete the mission so you can either look for him again in an hour or so and catch him off guard using /tar [Jedi name] to keep close tabs on him *or* you can just wait a day or so.

Message Edited by SomeUser on 07-12-2005 02:46 AM





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Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:44 pm
#19

Getting the names at some point should happen I hope tanks can getsomething worked out for you MBHs.


If they make it after the seeker droid then all you have waisted is a trip to a planet ifit is someone you know, and this would effectively wipeout the gank squad issue as well.






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Nathanielstarr
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:45 pm
#20






Cada_Kai wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:


You don't understand. The jedi need to their FRS so they can be even more powerful. But they exploited the hell out of it the old way so they have to make it so they can't just have their MBH alot or their friends MBH alt take their mission over and over again. So they are trying to makea system where you cannot pick who you hunt...so they can't exploit it. They'll make the FRS so that you only gain rank by killing MBH that have your mission and from other jedi. So we get nerfed so jedi can be even stronger. But get used to it.






um yeah ok. you sure are a paranoid little man arent you.


SOE is not out to get you nathanial. geesh.


They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.


So to stopthat from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.



The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system intails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it. I can almost guarantee thatit will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.









Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...


As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?


So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.
SomeUser
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:48 pm
#21






Cada_Kai wrote:

Getting the names at some point should happen I hope tanks can getsomething worked out for you MBHs.


If they make it after the seeker droid then all you have waisted is a trip to a planet ifit is someone you know, and this would effectively wipeout the gank squad issue as well.





I hope so! I have no problems with BH gank squads being something of the past... I never cared for that tactic myself... However, for me, /tar [Jedi name] was my main tactic in keeping close tabs on the Jedi from a distance.... I could just shadow him from over 1000m away until I felt the time was right








Vezek


SomeUser
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:53 pm
#22






Nathanielstarr wrote:
Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...

As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?


So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.






I think a B-I-G reason why SOE took Jedi names off the terms is for when they put that Jedi ranking system back in place.... They cant have the Jedi's alt BH being used as a means to exploit the system. Only way to prevent that is make finding a particular Jedi VERY hard to impossible to do.



I think putting the Jedi name at the probot stage would work perfectly... It would take forever to find your own mission or a guild mate mission... It would be much easier for a Jedi to get full templated, and wait for an inexperience BH who doesnt know better to try and attack him (remember we wont have Jedi rank anymore via the mission payout).



This whole publish 20 is making sense to me now.... We arent getting nerfed cause of other BH... We are getting nerfed cause SOE designed a poor Jedi ranking system (keep forgetting the name of it LoL).





Vezek


Cada_Kai
Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:56 pm
#23






SomeUser wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:
Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...

As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?


So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.






I think a B-I-G reason why SOE took Jedi names off the terms is for when they put that Jedi ranking system back in place.... They cant have the Jedi's alt BH being used as a means to exploit the system. Only way to prevent that is make finding a particular Jedi VERY hard to impossible to do.



I think putting the Jedi name at the probot stage would work perfectly... It would take forever to find your own mission or a guild mate mission... It would be much easier for a Jedi to get full templated, and wait for an inexperience BH who doesnt know better to try and attack him (remember we wont have Jedi rank anymore via the mission payout).



This whole publish 20 is making sense to me now.... We arent getting nerfed cause of other BH... We are getting nerfed cause SOE designed a poor Jedi ranking system (keep forgetting the name of it LoL).





This was posted above, but I dont think you read it.





They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.


So to stop that from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.


At this point there is No FRS ingame.


The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system entails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it.(due to past exploiting) I can almost guarantee that it will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.




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Iak Adac Jedi Hunter

"I couldn't be more bugged if my name was Buggy McBuggyPants." -FunkyZabrak

AltharXXX
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:12 am
#24


Small force pool? 3200+ ? sure it's not 6k + change.


and yeah it'll suck - but maybe the 225k or the look on someones face will be worth the 2-3 holocrons used in the fight.


(wonder why I'm responding to a jedi troll...)


Message Edited by AltharXXX on 07-13-2005 06:15 AM



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Yog-Soth
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:27 am
#25

Dear OP ,


It screws me too. My template is Master SquadLeader/Master Carbineer/ BH 4-4-x-x . I really don't want to surrrender one of the other two masteries for MBH. Especially since it would do nothing for me, except make me weaker in PvP.





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Tucheck
Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:30 am
#26



Nathanielstarr wrote:
You don't understand. The jedi need to their FRS so they can be even more powerful. But they exploited the hell out of it the old way so they have to make it so they can't just have their MBH alot or their friends MBH alt take their mission over and over again. So they are trying to make a system where you cannot pick who you hunt...so they can't exploit it. They'll make the FRS so that you only gain rank by killing MBH that have your mission and from other jedi. So we get nerfed so jedi can be even stronger. But get used to it.





Now THAT's the definition of irony....

The BH professions has "sweeping" changes made because of Jedi farming FRS with alts.



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