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Thread: please dont let devs wreck my template!!!
Cada_Kai wrote:
SomeUser wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...
As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?
So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.
I think a B-I-G reason why SOE took Jedi names off the terms is for when they put that Jedi ranking system back in place.... They cant have the Jedi's alt BH being used as a means to exploit the system. Only way to prevent that is make finding a particular Jedi VERY hard to impossible to do.
I think putting the Jedi name at the probot stage would work perfectly... It would take forever to find your own mission or a guild mate mission... It would be much easier for a Jedi to get full templated, and wait for an inexperience BH who doesnt know better to try and attack him (remember we wont have Jedi rank anymore via the mission payout).
This whole publish 20 is making sense to me now.... We arent getting nerfed cause of other BH... We are getting nerfed cause SOE designed a poor Jedi ranking system (keep forgetting the name of it LoL).
This was posted above, but I dont think you read it.
They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.
So to stop that from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.
At this point there is No FRS ingame.
The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system entails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it.(due to past exploiting) I can almost guarantee that it will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.
Should I repost my response to you? Or are you able to scroll up and see it again....obviously the poster you are responding to saw your post, read it and felt that you were full of crap. Accept it.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Cada_Kai wrote:
SomeUser wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...
As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?
So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.
I think a B-I-G reason why SOE took Jedi names off the terms is for when they put that Jedi ranking system back in place.... They cant have the Jedi's alt BH being used as a means to exploit the system. Only way to prevent that is make finding a particular Jedi VERY hard to impossible to do.
I think putting the Jedi name at the probot stage would work perfectly... It would take forever to find your own mission or a guild mate mission... It would be much easier for a Jedi to get full templated, and wait for an inexperience BH who doesnt know better to try and attack him (remember we wont have Jedi rank anymore via the mission payout).
This whole publish 20 is making sense to me now.... We arent getting nerfed cause of other BH... We are getting nerfed cause SOE designed a poor Jedi ranking system (keep forgetting the name of it LoL).
This was posted above, but I dont think you read it.
They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.
So to stop that from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.
At this point there is No FRS ingame.
The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system entails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it.(due to past exploiting) I can almost guarantee that it will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.
Should I repost my response to you? Or are you able to scroll up and see it again....obviously the poster you are responding to saw your post, read it and felt that you were full of crap. Accept it.
ok nathaniel you say itis going to be just like the old system. Fine you are right and i am wrong. I mean with your skills in deductive reasoning you are surely able to figure out why they are having to have a new system OKed by Lucas arts since it is the exact same old system they had in place before. This makes total and complete sense. Got FRS from MBH before Get it from MBH again. yeah we better get that OKed.
Cada_Kai wrote:
This was posted above, but I dont think you read it.
They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.
So to stop that from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.
At this point there is No FRS ingame.
The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system entails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it.(due to past exploiting) I can almost guarantee that it will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.
I just read that BH had nothing to do with the FRS... I'm confused. I was on hiatus from SWG while the FRS was in full swing so it would be nice to know exactly how it worked and why exactly it was taken out....
As far a BH gank squads, I fail to see why the DEVs couldnt have just put a TEF on the first BH that attacked so other BH couldnt help out just like other Jedi cant help out.... Perhaps there is a problem doing that when the other BH have the mission... Maybe it is too hard for the DEVs to program something to lock other BH with the same mission out? I dunno.... I just think this has to go a little deeper then BH gank squads.... Just my thoughts anyhow.
Vezek
Cada_Kai wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Cada_Kai wrote:
SomeUser wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...
As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?
So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.
I think a B-I-G reason why SOE took Jedi names off the terms is for when they put that Jedi ranking system back in place.... They cant have the Jedi's alt BH being used as a means to exploit the system. Only way to prevent that is make finding a particular Jedi VERY hard to impossible to do.
I think putting the Jedi name at the probot stage would work perfectly... It would take forever to find your own mission or a guild mate mission... It would be much easier for a Jedi to get full templated, and wait for an inexperience BH who doesnt know better to try and attack him (remember we wont have Jedi rank anymore via the mission payout).
This whole publish 20 is making sense to me now.... We arent getting nerfed cause of other BH... We are getting nerfed cause SOE designed a poor Jedi ranking system (keep forgetting the name of it LoL).
This was posted above, but I dont think you read it.
They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.
So to stop that from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.
At this point there is No FRS ingame.
The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system entails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it.(due to past exploiting) I can almost guarantee that it will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.
Should I repost my response to you? Or are you able to scroll up and see it again....obviously the poster you are responding to saw your post, read it and felt that you were full of crap. Accept it.
ok nathaniel you say itis going to be just like the old system. Fine you are right and i am wrong. I mean with your skills in deductive reasoning you are surely able to figure out why they are having to have a new system OKed by Lucas arts since it is the exact same old system they had in place before. This makes total and complete sense. Got FRS from MBH before Get it from MBH again. yeah we better get that OKed.
You need to get outside some, your hatred is clouding your Deductive reasoning.
Do you believe everything the Devs tell you?
I can see it now "Hey George, the masses of Jedi that make a mockery of your entire storyline want more power but we can't stop them from exploiting it....how about you get force ranking everytime you kill Vader? If you kill him quickly you get more ranking? The dark jedi can kill Yoda over and over..."
Honestly their going to say the following....Why didn't the FRS work last time? Well its because people kept killing their alternate characters Bounty hunter over and over. Well prevent that from happening...uh ok.
Trust me the developers in this game have always taken the easy road to fixing things.
there you go Nathaniel you almost got the point. No I do not know for sure, and guess what Neither do you.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Cada_Kai wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Cada_Kai wrote:
SomeUser wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
Nope. There are other ways to stop grouping against jedi. You cant really even do it now because the mission never seems to come up a second time, let alone a third time or more. You could just lock out other BHs from attacking once another bh has attacked....much like what happens when a jedi's group is not able to assist the jedi. You didn't have to screw over the BH profession. And if they didn't want BH to hunt low level jedi they could just exclude them from the terminals until a certain point...
As far as making it jedi vs jedi only I don't think that will happen. Jedi will want something for killing MBH. That's why I think they changed the requirement to MBH because jedi get FRS from killing them...what other reason would their be for the change?
So yeah Im using deductive reasoning to formulate the why to the specifics of this change and I know you're just going to say...but you don't know...blah blah...but I believe in the future I will be proven correct.
I think a B-I-G reason why SOE took Jedi names off the terms is for when they put that Jedi ranking system back in place.... They cant have the Jedi's alt BH being used as a means to exploit the system. Only way to prevent that is make finding a particular Jedi VERY hard to impossible to do.
I think putting the Jedi name at the probot stage would work perfectly... It would take forever to find your own mission or a guild mate mission... It would be much easier for a Jedi to get full templated, and wait for an inexperience BH who doesnt know better to try and attack him (remember we wont have Jedi rank anymore via the mission payout).
This whole publish 20 is making sense to me now.... We arent getting nerfed cause of other BH... We are getting nerfed cause SOE designed a poor Jedi ranking system (keep forgetting the name of it LoL).
This was posted above, but I dont think you read it.
They are nerfing names because even when they tried to make it hard for Bountyhunters to gank jedi guess what... some did.
So to stop that from happenening you get your nerf. It was your bretheren who couldnt stop ganking that caused this to happen not the FRS.
At this point there is No FRS ingame.
The devs submitted a FRS proposal to Lucas arts to get approved for this game. Unless you are a Dev, you have no idea what the new system entails. I would almost bet that Hunting MBHs is not even a part of it.(due to past exploiting) I can almost guarantee that it will be solely a Jedi Vs jedi FRS to keep any farming down.
Should I repost my response to you? Or are you able to scroll up and see it again....obviously the poster you are responding to saw your post, read it and felt that you were full of crap. Accept it.
ok nathaniel you say itis going to be just like the old system. Fine you are right and i am wrong. I mean with your skills in deductive reasoning you are surely able to figure out why they are having to have a new system OKed by Lucas arts since it is the exact same old system they had in place before. This makes total and complete sense. Got FRS from MBH before Get it from MBH again. yeah we better get that OKed.
You need to get outside some, your hatred is clouding your Deductive reasoning.
Do you believe everything the Devs tell you?
I can see it now "Hey George, the masses of Jedi that make a mockery of your entire storyline want more power but we can't stop them from exploiting it....how about you get force ranking everytime you kill Vader? If you kill him quickly you get more ranking? The dark jedi can kill Yoda over and over..."
Honestly their going to say the following....Why didn't the FRS work last time? Well its because people kept killing their alternate characters Bounty hunter over and over. Well prevent that from happening...uh ok.
Trust me the developers in this game have always taken the easy road to fixing things.
Nathanielstarr - read PM - this fix isn't going to do jack for FRS.
Message Edited by AltharXXX on 07-12-2005 02:16 AM
AltharXXX wrote:
Nathanielstarr - read PM - this fix isn't going to do jack for FRS.
This thread is about TEMPLATEs not names. The OP is saying that no longer can they be : Dual Mastery Combat Professions + BH 4000 - which is a MUCH STRONG PVP TEMPLATE THAN MBH + ANYTHING.
Now, I'm a purest. I go MBH, but honestly most MBH templates cannot 'control' situations as well as non-MBH templates.
I've got 6 MBH toons:
MBH+MCommando+Smuggler 4000
MBH+MCommando+Smuggler 0000+Pistoleer 0001
MBH+MRM+Carbineer 4400 (I want to be able to wear RIS, and PVE - this toon was BH 4xx? before CU)
MBH+Carbineer 4000+MAS
MBH+CH 3000+MAS
OK I see what you are saying. Seeing your post and reading the IM now it makes sense. But I wont divulge it because I don't want to give jedi any ideas just in case.
LOL - I just read your sig - very funny. Truthfully, some BH do kill jedi afk. It's not such a feat with the right equipment and macro (and a mark who isn't to powerfull.)
mmnanszite wrote:
so i finally found my niche.
and now they want to make only MBH able to hunt jedi.
I just surrended all my MBH skills too, except 4000, for the droid efficiency and picked up MCM and i love it.
VasSmooth wrote:
mmnanszite wrote:
so i finally found my niche.
and now they want to make only MBH able to hunt jedi.
I just surrended all my MBH skills too, except 4000, for the droid efficiency and picked up MCM and i love it.
Having less then 25% of the BH skills make you a BH thus viable to hunt jedi?
QFE
My dream BH template would have to include:
Powers 0400 (once NPC AI is fixed with this - it'll prevent all those damn duel requests.)
Healing 4000 (cheapest healing SP wise with a dam good return.)
Enhancer 4003 (root, snare, speed debuff, speed buff - AND FORCE DRAIN.)
BH 3000 (beh, to get missions.)
...
What fits best for damage? Might have to go MPowers... Then you drain them till they notice you, cloak, root, choke, lightning. toss in a KD.
AltharXXX wrote:
My dream BH template would have to include:
Powers 0400 (once NPC AI is fixed with this - it'll prevent all those damn duel requests.)
Healing 4000 (cheapest healing SP wise with a dam good return.)
Enhancer 4003 (root, snare, speed debuff, speed buff - AND FORCE DRAIN.)
BH 3000 (beh, to get missions.)
...
What fits best for damage? Might have to go MPowers... Then you drain them till they notice you, cloak, root, choke, lightning. toss in a KD.
and when your very small force pool is gone then what?
you wont be able to heal, root, snare, or cloak.